'cause they don't have Teams integrated with our desk phone. If someone calls my desk, I can answer via my headset here at home.
Yeah, we're a tech disaster ATM. They're trying to push everything to the full MS suite (teams, yammer, etc), but we're all over the place in terms of A) implementation and B) functionality
not sure why we need Yammer when there's chat on Teams. What's the difference? (other than that they've got some things set up on one and not the other)
Good morning fellow ducklings. I'm wondering something. Since Microsoft acquired Github, are there any sneaky dastardly new clauses in the Git TOS that say something like Microsoft claims ownership rights to any code that you upload...? Kind of like how Facebook owns any pictures that you upload..?
@FreeMan you can answer using Jabber which is a Cisco product that integrates with the Cisco IP phones, that is. At some point they think they'll have them integrated with Teams
"We want you to read and agree to our bullshit TOS but we don't want you to read it too closely lest you be outraged by audacious things we claim in it. Just hurry up and accept it already."
Well, unfortunately, that's not exclusively Microsoft's shenanigans. We've got Google, Apple, Facebok, and basically all major players doing the same stunt.
Real Question™: I have an object that will hold data for my reports and methods to populate the data. Would it make sense to have the Class_Initialize() actually call the methods to load the data, so all I have to do is Dim myData as myDataType : Set myData = New myDataType and presto, I've got the data?
besides, I haven't fully thought through this refactoring, so I'm not 100% sure I need all the data every time, so 'twould probably make sense not to gather it ifn I don't need it
Also, doing certain stuff in Initialize can be weird. The only thing you can safely do is basically new up private variables or set to some constants without leaving the class module.
500k deaths in UK predicted by Imperial College London 2 weeks ago. Then they said "oops" we overestimated by 96%, now we think it's only going to be 20,000.
R0 predicted to be nearly 4. With data it's showing more like 2.
As more cases are identified the death rate is going to plummet simply because 95% are mild cases that aren't any worse than a cold. Of the 5%, only a small fraction are even hospitalized.
sucks to be among the dead, no question, but I really doubt this is going to be any worse than any of the "massive scares" or whatever you want to call 'em over the last 20 years.
the fatality rate in europe is currently at just below 10%. Sure some of that is due to missing tests not showing the whole picture, but 10% is just way too high to not be worried
@FreeMan I'm reasonably sure that some of that is due to social distancing.
Comparing R0 to R is not really useful in the first place, since R0 is always without intervention and R is the current rate
CDC guidelines (doesn't impact EU, I understand that) says that if someone has or is thought to have C-19, that's to be listed as the cause of death even without a postmortum test. Doesn't matter if they were in a car crash, if they already had pneumonia, have been fighting cancer for 10 years or anything.
Which means the actual infection rate is significantly higher than we know. which means the hospitalization and death rates are much lower.
because there are a lot of people who have been infected but don't know it, live their lives, recover and go on.
They've also managed to develop whatever amount of immunity we can develop against this
Unfortunately, it's a coronavirus which is the same thing that causes the common cold (different branch of the family, I know), and we can't cure or prevent that, either.
oh. actual work discussion on the call. gotta pay attention to that
One stated concern was that because coronavirus mutates very fast, and because nobody knows about it to the same extent we do the influenza, there's uncertainty whether coronavirus will become more dangerous if it's allowed to mutate; we already have 3 strains, AIUI.
And if 30% are asymptomatic, that's even more who are developing whatever immunity we can develop to it, and the critical/hospitalized case rate and death rate are both even lower than all the horror story news reports say.
Yes, I'm quite skeptical of what we're being told. Yes, I understand that's a pretty unpopular stance to take. It's OK, we can all still be friends.
I'm also very concerned about how this has shut down the entire world and the precedent this is establishing for the next scary thing to come along.
People have been so willing to give up their freedoms and let their governments tell them what to do, that it will be easier for the governments to take control of the next thing.
(Yes, I know that's a pretty unpopular thought process, too.)
here's a #FunFact. I had added forms 2.0 reference temporarily for testing. Via VBA's built-in references tool it says it can't be removed because it's in use. Yeah right. I already removed all my testing code. Use RD"s Add/Remove references, and it went away. Who's the moron, VBIDE?
@FreeMan This is not the pandemic that wipes out the majority of the human population. It is a dress rehearsal. Look at how woefully unprepared we are. Now imagine that the virus is both more deadly and an aerosol. These are two things that could be a reality.
If we don't take this seriously, if we don't prepare for how to contain a pandemic, then we will certainly be destroyed at some point in the future. We need the infrastructure, processes and procedures. We need the public to know what to do. All the things that are happening right now are a good introduction to the next extinction event. Scientists have been warning that it is a virus that will kill us all. You can't do this alone. We need the whole world to be ready.
@HackSlash It's gonna have to be worse than the bubonic plague which hit when "medicine" was blood-letting and "sorry 'bout your luck" and that didn't wipe out humanity.
There's no doubt that this is dangerous and that people are dying from it. My concern is the way in which we've reacted. It sets an incredibly dangerous precedence for reacting to anything new and scary in the future. I am very confident that we'll see more and more quarantines and world-wide shut downs every time some new thing comes along.
I think George Orwell said it best:
> Now I will tell you the answer to my question. It is this. The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from the oligarchies of the past in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites.
> The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just around the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end.
> One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now you begin to understand me.
Of course, they'll tell you that it's your best interest that they have in mind, but it isn't.
To be clear, @FreeMan, I pretty much agree and think that people were already voluntarily distancing without having the stuffed suits telling them to stay home. Several private businesses already has started rationing supplies and in some cases before any stay-in-home was a thing. That didn't require a governmental intervention.
I guess it's just that there's much more unknowns, and of course, politicians love them unknowns. They have to do something!
Can't trust them to sit in front of a red button clearly labeled "do not push"....
@this it's very much the "we have to do something, won't you think of the children" that's caused so much chaos. The politicians had to be seen to do something, even though they didn't have a clue, nor did the scientists/doctors. So, in "an abundance of caution" we've totally overreacted.
Unfortunately, there's no way of knowing what would have happened if we'd continued more-or-less as normal with people just staying further away from each other than usual.
TBH, I think most people are more than 6' apart most of the time anyway. There are your close-talkers, but seriously, if you're talking to someone, generally you're an arm's length away and that's about 1/2 your body height. If you just back up to an arm's length each, you're the best part of 6' (on average). Boom. Done.
Well, is it just that, though? The working assumption is that if you stay 6' away, you're A-OK but if it can survive on surface or can jump human to animal to human, that would change the equation significantly.
@IvenBach Did it make the tiger sick? If you get close enough to the tiger to catch it from his sneeze, you've probably got more pressing issues to deal with than worrying about a bad cold for a couple of weeks, anyway.
@IvenBach Exactly my point! Yes, a lot of people have died. Yes, that really sucks for them and their families. No, I'm not unsympathetic. Unfortunately, though, most of the people who have died have had other very serious issues that probably would have killed them anyway, and the CDC has instructed that if a death can even remotely be thought to be related to c19, then that should be listed as the primary cause of death, thus artificially inflating the numbers.
@FreeMan, It's clear that the public would be outraged if the government didn't do enough to stop the spread of a pandemic but people like you don't want to be told what to do. Where is the balance? The US already has had a more mild policy reaction than other countries and is paying the price.
What if what we are doing isn't enough? NY city is now 5th in the world for deaths when compared with whole countries. We don't have a higher population but we do have a higher death count. At the end we are going to look at the numbers and see that the US didn't do enough.
New Zealand took a strong policy stance and they are eradicating the virus. They are also stopping new cases from coming in.
> If COVID–19 played a role in the death, this condition should be specified on the death certificate
i.e. if it was involved in any way shape or form, blame c19.
i.e. make it seem as bad as possible
> In cases where a definite diagnosis of COVID–19 cannot be made, but it is suspected or likely (e.g., the circumstances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty), it is acceptable to report COVID–19 on a death certificate as “probable” or “presumed.”
> In these instances, certifiers should use their best clinical judgement in determining if a COVID–19 infection was likely. However, please note that testing for COVID–19 should be conducted whenever possible
> , but it is acceptable to report COVID–19 on a death certificate without this confirmation if the circumstances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty
So, if I die in a car crash and my wife reports that I'd had a cough an a fever, then c19 could be "suspected" and, therefore, listed as cause of death.
even though I'd suffered massive internal injuries and bleeding.
Or, he's been fighting terminal cancer for 3 years and has been very weak for the last month, so it was probably the cancer that got him. Let's go with that.
I think the reasoning was that if there wasn't C19, then as many people wouldn't have died. The problem is that you can't know how much longer they could have lived in the absence of C19
I would hope they wouldn't count car crash as a C19 death, but also think that is very insignificant. Fighting terminal cancer is more likely for the scenario where C19 death might be doubtful, but again, no way to know how much longer the patient would have lived without C19.
In fact, the same circular I mentioned earlier basically implied that the virus wasn't bad but we have to work together to help avoid people dying unnecessarily and not overwhelming the system
Not so much "think of children!" but more "think of your maw-maw!"
Access Wizards unite! I'm having a bizzare issue with report formatting. The report repeats cells and should look like a table or excel sheet. However I'm seeing different line thicknesses on different lines, which should be impossible because it's the same one line repeated.
For sure, I've got a quote out to get a fleet of tablets but until they approve that I can't go paperless. There are humans who walk around with paper in their hands like it's 1985. They still have a fax machine. The place where they need the paper is not a nice place for computers and that's why it needs to be portable or small form factor and rugged.
That would be nice. Unfortunately it's not just reading paper. If I'm going to deploy devices then they are going to do all the things. (some of which are windows based).
Yeah. In our prototype, we were able to use iPad camera with the web application with a bit of user training, and they could enter data as needed but we had to keep the design stupid simple and mainly button-driven or dropdown-driven to minimize freehand text entry. Not fun.
Nice. I was asked to 2D barcode everything so that the users don't have to type on the tablets. They wanted one piece of paper they could scan for various functions. I made a proof of concept and it works by reading 2d barcodes using a webcam. Then the project stalled when I showed them what it would take to implement.
So in the UK, one of the primary objectives is to ensure that the number of ICU patients doesn't exceed availaible capacity (the primary constraint being the number of ventilators). Hence the lockdown and the frantic efforts to add ICU beds. If that effort fails, people that might otherwise survive would die simply due to lack of resource, and doctors could be in the position of having to choose who to give the ventaltor to. Both of these things would suck.
I've heard varying estimates of overall mortality for SARS-CoV2, but 1-2% seems typical. But that's still a lot of (predominately older) people, and I don't think many would want their parents\grandparents to be sacrificed just to ease economic impact.
I guess it's slightly different in the UK; everyone here gets medical treatment free at the point of use - if something is clinically required, it's done. The only troublesome area is some of the niche meds and the outrageous prices big pharma like to charge for them. The idea of dying for lack of a ventilator is pretty unpalateable to Brits.
@M.Doerner Thanks for all your feedback! Yes, Landing is a window that is closed after the user selects an initial option and is re-opened if they cancel their initial selection. I'm going to look into what you told me about explicit shutdown and see if that would be the best solution as far as allowing tasks to continue to run asynchronously without waiting on them.
I will also, of course, consider a more typical WPF architecture, but I'm first trying to make sure I understand how Tasks and Async/Await apply to the existing architecture.
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