@AncientSwordRage both very very good. also bravest warriors. slightly less so TDP? the creator of that show is hella abusive, even abusing his own minority staff when they give advice on how, whether, and when to represent their own minority groups (mostly this has come up in context of lgbt rep on the show).
ironically for a boss that got abusive when his own lgbt staff member asked him to not do some rep a certain way, the show's actual lgbt rep is pretty shoddy.
(almost like when you ignore and bulldoze over the advice of minority groups, you wind up representing them badly)
@doppelgreener ooof I did not know this :-( I was impressed at least with how they handled some people with disabilities on the show
That aside I think personally I've gotten more enjoyment out of She-Ra than any of those other shows mentioned (except SU which I've only seen a few eps of and thus can't judge). It could just be that I think She-Ra is perfect fodder for uplifting stories in times like these.
@doppelgreener There are plenty of folks other than AE who have put work into the show. Seems wrong to discount the creation itself just to spite one of the creators.
@MikeQ I don't think doppel was discounting the whole show, just noting one factor that people could judge for themselves how to account for in the choice of media viewing
but hey i am an LGBT person and knowing my show was constructed with a large portion of abuse, and my representation was filtered through an abusive boss who ignored and attacked his own LGBT employees for the advice they gave even when they are specifically employed in the capacity of giving that advice, kind of puts a damper on things
so that does affect my consumption of and relationship to the show and how i will recommend it to people
ironically for a boss that got abusive when his own lgbt staff member asked him to not do some rep a certain way, the show's actual lgbt rep is pretty shoddy.
the show is not separate from its creators. if "lots of people put work into the show" matters then "the person who ultimately called the shots was abusive toward them" also matters.
@MikeQ I feel it's bad to say that people are discounting the creation to spite one of the creators.
For example, my enjoyment of The Shining is definitely tainted by the fact I know Kubrick basically tortured Shelley Duvall over the course of the film.
@BESW Somewhat unrelated but Lindsay Ellis just put out a video on the limits of Death of the Author as a critical theory in the wake of J. K. Rowling getting wild on Twitter.
I want people like me to be treated well. This means I want people like me to have representation. However, it also means I want people like me to not be abused. We already have an uphill battle creating representation, but if the representation means being subjected to significant abuse and personal attack, I would rather those LGBT creators have employment elsewhere and not have the representation.
Also, I do have respect for the creators and the work they produced. Part of having respect for them is not glossing over or ignoring the abuse they experienced as part of their work as though it didn't happen.
Anyone who’s played a truenamer before in d&d3.5e, what’s the biggest single problem with the class as you’ve played it (not like what the obvious problems are, such as the dc going up by 2 while your bonus goes up by 1 or the way they don’t get enough utterances)?
