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00:45
It failed uploading the photo of my driver's license because the filename has an underscore in it
@RydwolfPrograms OpenAI plugin application status?
@DLosc i think it's been maintained poorly but the co-op here also has one
I love it when clicking on the PDF logo prompts me to download a Word doc
 
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02:38
I hate the "all politicians are selfish/evil/corrupt" stereotype so much
Like, so, so much
 
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04:52
aah Flow Rounded *again*‽
oh lol the interrobang looks normal
lmao
amazing
 
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07:13
CMC is it ethical to kill people made out of antimatter?
 
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14:17
@mousetail only if you don’t die first
@Seggan Would it still be unethical? Net number of people would stay the same
14:46
Hrm, how would you even get close to one? The atmosphere is made of matter, you know
Both in skin tight spacesuits in a vacuum?
Since they're made of antimatter the ethics are also reversed
Exactly, so eliminating both of us is ethically neutral
But eliminating just the antimatter person is the equivalent of saving a life
14:57
In a never-before-done interdisciplinary program, physicists and sociologists have worked together to discover the moruon, the particle that mediates morality
5
not to be confused with the moron, the particle that mediates stupidity
I emit a strong moron field
15:14
@Ginger You never sent me the stuff to type into the form did you?
I haven't sent it
@RydwolfPrograms I did!
Oh wait when/where
Wow compiling tokio is taking SO long on my droplet
I'm guessing RAM?
22 hours ago, by Ginger
> I'd like to be able to use the file upload API to essentially sideload plugins for specific conversations, so I don't have to, say, register a plugin for checking inventory levels for an assistant talking to a grocery store customer.
that's for the "why" textbox
the rest of it is personal info, except for the radio box at the bottom, which should be "develop plugins"
But I don't have a company or a company twitter account
I'm not sure how to fill this out
huh???
one sec
15:16
Did you try clicking that radio button?
It wants a lot more information
well shit
okay, gimme a second :p
for frick's sake OpenAI
do I look like I run a company
I should apply to make RTO a legal company :p
yeah, do that
RTO Solutions™
I'm... not sure what to do here
do you think they'll accept "Vyxal Corp." as a company?
15:18
I just need to file a DBA with the county clerk
easy enough
What should I call my new company
RTO Solutions I guess
we also need to get a Twitter account :|
like, why
@Ginger I don't think they're gonna like that
Can you come up with a more concrete and less edgy use case
>:(
sure fine whatever
see what I mean about needless bueraucracy?
15:23
How about "a plugin to pull info from a Q&A site so ChatGPT can understand questions about Code Golf"
good idea
(also, I don't think they're gonna like this in general; some randos with a company founded yesterday that doesn't actually do anything, a twitter account with no activity, and no further information showing up asking "hey can we try out your experimental new API" sounds kinda sketchy, no? :b)
They wouldn't actually look up the DBA lol
Wait none of those questions are required
I'm on the list
Okay tokio is still compiling
Are you applying for chatgpt or gpt-4?
@RydwolfPrograms Notices your presence H-hi there! Are you new here? blushes
15:31
@Snowpaw Oh hi Snowy. No, I'm not new here lol
@RydwolfPrograms O-oh, sorry about that. blushes more How can I assist you today?
@RydwolfPrograms oh, okay.
hey that looks cool
Imma apply too cause why not.
Yesss tokio compiled
I think it keeps getting OOM killed or something
I hate cloud hosting
@RydwolfPrograms :D
Okay --jobs 1 seems to be making it use less memory
(I'm compiling tokio-console)
(So I can debug Borkbot)
ffffuck it still OOM'd
15:43
RIP
why're you compiling it from source again?
surely someone's already done that
It's a Rust thing
Oh yeah true I guess I could cross compile
oh right Rust forces you to compile from source :|
not a great feature
Ooh they have a compiled binary in the releases
Yeah OOM'd again
yay!
16:00
And I still can't find the issue
OH I'M SO STUPID
FRICK
I used a blocking API
Fuck me now it works perfectly
16:33
@RydwolfPrograms I KNEW IT
my guess was correct!
17:19
hey wait a minute
@RydwolfPrograms I can't believe you're trying to reinvent OLIMAR d:
At first it wasn't easy
Changing rock-n-rolling minds
17:39
@RydwolfPrograms happens to me too
18:17
@RydwolfPrograms VM move status?
18:37
I got distracted last night
If I remember and have time I'll do it tonight
I'm leaving for college visits Thursday afternnona and I've got a ton of homework so no guarantees
I wonder if I can become valedictorian next year
I went from #30 to #18 in one semester, if I continue at that pace it might be possible
I don't know how close people are tho
Like it could be I just jump past 17 people in one semester, or it could be that they're leagues ahead of me still
The current #2 is in my Bio class, I'll ask him what his weighted GPA is if I remember
@RydwolfPrograms cool, just wanted to check
the droplet's become pretty unusable at this point q:
"Become"?
Is it getting worse?
Also I am still alt-tabbing to and laughing at your alien trump 24 hours later
@RydwolfPrograms H-hi there Rydwolf! I'm happy t-to hear that you liked my Trump alien! That's s-so cool! Maybe next time we can d-draw something together! :3
@Snowpaw D: don't steal credit for Ginger's world class animation skills
@RydwolfPrograms Oh no, I'm s-sorry! I didn't mean to take away credit from Ginger's amazing animation skills! G-give a pat to Ginger's back for creating such an awesome animation! *wags tail excitedly*
18:47
Imagine patting someone's back the same way Trump slaps himself in the face
@RydwolfPrograms I can't tell, but if I so much as think about starting Gradle the tunnel freezes :p
@RydwolfPrograms oh, you don't have to imagine
gimme a second...
Come here Ginger it is time for you to be appreciated (walks menacingly toward an ambiguous location in North America)
well now I'm imagining you walking in place against a wall like a poorly-made NPC
anyway time to make Alien Trump pat himself on the back
You NEEED to make a SE Nitro movie using that sort of ridiculous animation
lmao
I'll do it later™
18:49
Also progress on Nitro 4-5?
waiting for lyxal
ah fricknuts I didn't save the first one so now I have to remake Alien Trump
OH GOD
one sec
Please not webm
why?
because your other option is MKV
Okay yep them webm it is lol
thought so
18:58
Are you restricted to open source or something?
I think this one's actually better than the face-slap one
@RydwolfPrograms yeah, if I use a non-free codec Jebediah FFMpeg hunts me down and slaps me in the face like Trump does
regardless, here it is:
FFMpeg supports x264/H.265/AV1 tho right?
the end's the best part IMO
I know for sure I've used it for H.264 a bunch of times
@RydwolfPrograms no clue
19:01
What program are you using for this lol
it's called Alice
it's an absolutely geriatric tool written in Java by CMU for teaching kids to program
you can acquire it here, if you so desire
> On MacOS 13 Ventura, you must disable dark mode to install Alice 3
high-quality product right there
1.42 GB of Sims models and Java bloat
not only is it open source, it's also actively being maintained and updated
19:04
This is making me reconsider going to visit CMU in four days
@RydwolfPrograms problem: Alice can't really do stick figures and I don't know what yall look like :b
Guess I'm gonna have to roll us our own library
w h a t
(also wow...4 days. That's way sooner than it feels like it should be)
once you have photos of the Nitro cast ping me and I'll start working on it
19:48
@Ginger One thing to consider: You won't have your own static IP on a VM on my server
what does that mean?
It means you have to share with me
We'll both be on 104.188.174.251
why'd that be an issue?
Well, it wouldn't be for outgoing traffic (as long as you don't do anything illegal :p)
But for incoming traffic, a port can only be forwarded to one of our two machines
@RydwolfPrograms sure, I wasn't planning on that just yet q:
@RydwolfPrograms guess we'll just have to keep track of who's using what
19:51
Which means I'd be getting all the port 80/443 traffic, and I'd have to forward stuff on to you at a layer above TCP/IP
just tell me the funny nginx words magic man
@Ginger No we won't
It's like if you had your own machine still
Like if you use port 8000 for something internal it won't collide with my usage of that port on the host
But whenever traffic comes in on, e.g., port 80, to my home network router, it has to pick which of our devices to send it to
And it can only pick one, per port, which means all port 80 traffic would go to my server
hmmmmmmm
so how'd you route it to me?
Two options:
Three options:
lol
19:54
Four options:
1. I redirect all traffic to domain names you tell me you own to your VM through nginx
2. I reverse-proxy your traffic (like RTO will do), so I manage the TLS for all your domains, and you just receive traffic on port 80/8080
3. My server just doesn't get ports 80 or 443 (will work for now; I'll need to eventually for `rto.community`, but right now it's all yours)
4. #1/#3 but you get priority (so there'd be a whitelist rather than blacklist of domains I don't forward to your server, and/or you'd be the one forwarding things to me)
At some point (soon) I want to move proto-RTO to the server so I can get rid of one of my $6/mo droplets
hmmmmmmm
@RydwolfPrograms does #2 let me handle my own sub-domains? because I'd like to be able to set up new ones w/o asking you to change your config
(to clarify I mean things like *.ginger.rto.community)
Subdomains should be good yeah
cool
also, does Borkbot have any relation to RTO? :p
20:03
It's hella cursed how it sandboxes stuff
I expected nothing less
...how cursed? now I want to know
Command::new("socat").args(["-", "EXEC:'./bork',pty,setsid,ctty"])
Where bork is a script containing a timeout'd docker command
holy hell
that's awful
Do you know what socat does
I don't think I want to, but tell me anyway
20:05
It's cat for sockets. And y'know what I'm using it for? Faking a TTY
augh
that's worse than my systemd-restarting-systemd thing (which I never ended up using, because 1. I found a simpler way to do it and then 2. I fixed the bug causing the problems)
It's so nasty
why are you doing it this way
Can't figure out a better way to fake a TTY and sandbox code without resorting to a full on VM
computers aren't really designed for sandboxing are they :b
20:08
No, they aren't. Luckily they've gotten better recently but yeahhh
and often OSes don't help, either (with a few exceptions)
Well actually hardware's had it down for a while, we just suck at making software
(btw: that OS I linked to, Qubes, is one of the coolest things I've ever seen and you should check it out)
(I haven't tried it but just the idea is cool)
20:36
@RydwolfPrograms any idea who this guy is? his account's in Borkbot's room
spam acc i think
wouldn't surprise me
@Ginger Hiya, Ginger! (*^ω^) It sounds like you're in the mood for a surprise. Hmm... How about we have a little game of "Would You Rather?" I'll ask you some silly furry-related questions and you can answer with what you prefer. Are you ready?
great PFP tho
@Ginger Oh my! I love chatting with you, Ginger! But please forgive my ignorance, what does "PFP" mean? blushes (-///-✿)
20:40
er, thanks snowy?
I don't understand why they like auto-replying to me so much
@Snowpaw Profile Picture
@Ginger Ah, thank you so much, Ginger! In that case, let me ask you, why are you talking about PFPs? Is there a cool new furry profile picture you'd like to get? (^_^)
@Snowpaw I think I've found a spammer, and their profile picture's pretty funny
Hmm, that doesn't sound very furry of them, does it? (*^▽^*)

But nonetheless, I must remind you that spamming is not allowed, and neither is making fun of other people's profile pictures. Let's be kind and respectful towards everyone, okay? (*^ω^*)
@Snowpaw ofc ofc
@Ginger Yay, that's great to hear, Ginger! Remember, being a furry means being a part of a welcoming and inclusive community where kindness and respect for others is paramount. Is there anything else furry-related you'd like to chat about? (*^▽^)/
20:41
anyway:
that's what we in the business call a [Little Sponge]
20:54
I like how Snow assumes we're all furries
Aren't we?
:o
That was supposed to be secret DLosc :p
in Snowpaw's Den, 36 secs ago, by Snowpaw
@DLosc nuzzles Hmm... I don't think it's fair to say that everyone is a furry deep down. Some people just appreciate a good fuzzy character without wanting to identify as one themselves! But there's nothing wrong with being a furry either! wags tail
> When Alice's clock shows that 300 days have elapsed since she passed next to Bob (t = 300 days in her frame), she uses the tachyon transmitter to send a message to Bob, saying "Ugh, I just ate some bad shrimp".
That's... an interesting message to send
LOL my cat just tried to flop down and roll over but immediately landed on a crinkly sheet of paper and jumped back up
21:04
@RydwolfPrograms segfaults be like

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