18:18
@Matthew Well, yes, various ways of determining the age of the universe give us slightly different results. The classical Big Bang Theory would, if we apply modern measurements to it, give us the age of the universe to be around 27 billion years (that's known as the Hubble Time).
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20:42
@FlatAssembler Sure. But the point is a) the Big Bang model also has points where there isn't enough time for energy to propagate as much as the observable evidence suggests that it has, and b) materialist models lack an all-powerful deity that is easily capable of performing "magical curving of light or magical time dilation" or other such manipulations.
In other words, we have no model that satisfactorily explains all of the energy we see and where we see it. Since that's the case, it follows, firstly, that we're most likely missing something fundamental with respect to energy (light) propagation in the universe, and secondly, given the first implication, it isn't reasonable to selectively discard models that have that problem.
Put differently, if it's "insane" to believe in YEC due to the starlight problem, then it is equally insane to believe in the Big Bang model, for the same reason.
...and since that's the case, it's perfectly reasonable (and hardly "insane") to consider the many other evidences that Creation isn't billions of years old.
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