TNB Conlang (katlani)

Ginger Industries

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WR: shotiya (n): Translator

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WR: bianto (n): A variant (bianto vi [thing])

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Ginger Industries

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taika makina partshana: Parser (literally word reading machine)

Redwolf Programs

WR: vishim (pn): Why

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Redwolf Programs

@GingerIndustries We have a verb for "to parse"

4 hours ago, by Redwolf Programs

WR: srimshana (v): To parse

Ginger Industries

@RedwolfPrograms can't find it

oh

WR: srimshana (v): To parse

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Ginger Industries

00:05

so srimshana makina

Redwolf Programs

So riomr ladi srimshana is a parsing machine?

Wait, where's makina from

Ginger Industries

can't find a word for "program"

Redwolf Programs

We don't have one yet

Ginger Industries

@RedwolfPrograms It's one of the few words I coined

@RedwolfPrograms hmm

brb

Redwolf Programs

WR: shidao (v): To instruct, to order

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Ginger Industries

WR: shilani (n): Program

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WR: daosik (n): A written instruction, order

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@GingerIndustries Ends in an i

Ginger Industries

00:08

@RedwolfPrograms hm

WR: shilan (n): Program

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Ginger Industries

brb for real now

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gus ma pat shidao su riomri: I like to order around/be in charge of machines

gus ma pat srik su daosiki lait simriomri: I like to write instructions for computers

gus ma pat srik su shilani: I like to write programs

gus ma pat srik vi kod: I like to (write) code

I am a fan of how many ways we can express the concept of programming lol

gus kromir: I like money

(actually, that means "money likes"...)

gus su kromir

Maybe if you include imi in a sentence where you're the subject, it means like "I must do xyz"

Like, fy fara ta ma imi lia sasa ndod: I will have to go far away

WR: paonar (v): To run

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ta pat paonar somak sabao su nimak fos: Running makes you fos (healthy?)

user

00:17

Maybe differentiate between fos and healthy?

Redwolf Programs

I kind of like the idea of fos applied to a human just meaning "good". Like, "good" health, "good" emotionally, etc.

"Good" as a concept is rather vague anyway, since it depends on your perspective

Like in english if someone is good that means their intentions/morals are good, but I think "healthy" would make just as much sense

pat stuff can get pretty ambiguous in some situations

Like, somak ta pat paonar su nimak fos would be ambiguous if somak and paonar weren't clearly taking two and one nouns respectively

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PR: sasa ndod (n): Far away

user

The problem is that the sentence could be misinterpreted as "Running makes you morally good". It's obvious here that you're not saying running is ethical or something, but it could be a lot more ambiguous in other cases

Redwolf Programs

So we just add a way to refer to morals that's different from fos

Like oto su [morals] fos

user

00:23

Maybe add a word for health and then say that running makes your health good?

Redwolf Programs

Maybe, but I like healthiness being the default rather than morality

It's more useful day-to-day, and more interesting

user

~~Imagine having any healthiness in your life~~

Redwolf Programs

Like we can add a word for health, and just say they oto su [health] fos, but we still kind of need a default

WR: mosdob (n): Morals

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PR: mosdob fos (n): Good morals, virtue

PR: mosdob oro (n): Bad morals, malice

ksoi pat ta makai oto mosdob fos

"I know that we are all good people"

ta mak sos kiro tsaku umubi?

no briga imi

kailan ma pat fara pat ktom su ktomizo fyla

no ksoi ma fy pat si niny su vy

ta ma gangip pat fy shuksi isplo

bai, fy aksi ma lia isa do sasa fylo

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WR: isplo (n): Soon, in little time

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Ginger Industries

WR: opru (n): Year

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Fmbalbuena

01:17

WR: sod (n): second

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WR: Tobl (n): Trouble

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@PUSH

user

I feel like I added ethics as a noun already

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Wezl - a cautionary tale

02:03

WR: fotobl (v): to sabotage

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Wezl - a cautionary tale

wow GingerBot ur up late

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02:21

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ta Radvylf srik su shilani

03:01

gus kai su ozon shin my ma?

Wezl - a cautionary tale

nice but I like prefix verbs

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

04:19

Yeah, I went with ta-first because I wanted ta Radwylf to show up instead of srik on small screens

emanresu A

04:37

What even is this?

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

It's a conlang

A spoken/written language we're making together

fosaksi!

lyxal

04:50

WR: khalling (n): game

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ta Radvylf srik su shilani

WR: raznitsa (n): Difference

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ta Radvylf srik su shilani

@lyxal si raznitsa vi sik khalling a sik friv su vy?

(What's the difference between "khalling" and "friv"?)

lyxal

friv isn't in the vocab

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

04:53

A lot of stuff isn't :/

Searching chat is usually the best option

PR: mak vi friv (n): Gamer

lyxal

that's assuming SE chat works

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

fair enough lol

PR: mak vi khalling (N): Gamer

lyxal

wow vocab doesn't even have the definition of mak

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Wait what lol

That's like one of the first words we added

lyxal

oh nvm it's there

ctrl+f is just bad

but it looks like there's no definition of vi in the repo

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

04:59

Yeah, you're like the third or fourth person to bring that up, we really need to get around to adding a prepositions section

WR: bimid (a): Favorite

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lyxal

where number list?

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

numbers.md

lyxal

ito kib aro

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

niao

lyxal

05:03

asikizi(?) en.number

should that be asikizi or asikiz-i

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

No dash, just asikizi

Although asikini with an n means "funny", which is closer I think

lyxal

and asikizi is essentially funny in this case?

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

nai su diga :p

lyxal

technically not because it timedout lol

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

I think funny number would be umub asikini

lyxal

05:06

idea: a suffix that means "a bit like a"

so asikiz-y would be a bit like a fun which is basically funny

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Sort of like -ish in english?

That could be a good idea

The closest thing we have is kylt, which is for nouns

Maybe an adverb instead of a suffix would be better

WR: ryby (n): Fish

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lyxal

@taRadvylfsriksushilani umub didn't get caught by the bot btw

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

At some point tomorrow I'm going to go through the whole transcript of the room by hand and find any words the bot didn't catch (or hadn't been made yet for)

There's a considerable number of undocumented words

lyxal

> undocumented words

words that just crept in through the border lol

and don't have a vocab.md visa lol

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

05:12

WR: skialfisr (a): Known, documented

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ta Radvylf srik su shilani

PR: smflorp noskialfisr (n): Undocumented/unlisted word

lyxal

what would have been funnier is if the words in that phrase were all undocumented

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

There. Now neither are :p

smflorp is brand new, and noskialfisr (with the prefix) isn't technically listed

lyxal

I appreciate the irony here

kib / kib

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

05:15

WR: nova (prep): Without

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lyxal

kib sans kib: 10 out of 10?

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Hmm, interesting. Likely an english-specific use of sans, but I guess it works as an idiom

lyxal

(that's a question - is the translation/phrase right?)

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

I think kib vi kib would be a bit close (more like "10 of 10"), but kib sans kib sounds nice

lyxal

05:18

ah

niao niao

WR: hurigo (n): champion / winner

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lyxal

Pog hurigo : pogchamp

because Pog is a brand name lol

so it doesn't need its own word

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

WR: ashvi (v): To cook, to grill

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ta Radvylf srik su shilani

WR: shubhu (n): Cheese

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lyxal

isohurigo: weirdchamp

or should it be iso hurigo?

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

PR: shubnu ladi ashvi su lany: Grilled cheese

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ta Radvylf srik su shilani

@lyxal hurigo iso if it's two words, either way works for one word

lyxal

@taRadvylfsriksushilani order doesn't matter though

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

05:22

In katlani?

lyxal

yeah

in fact, it's more accurately iso hurigo

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Adjectives always come after nouns

The grammar page might be wrong

But I think that was one of the hard-and-fast rules

lyxal

> The rest of the main clause can be any of the following components, in any order

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

That's for verbs though

lyxal

so where's the verbn't rules?

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

05:25

Under the noun phrases section

Adverbs and noun phrases (noun + adjectives + ownership) can go in any order, but adjectives need to go between the noun and the my [owner] stuff to avoid confusion

lyxal

ah okay

WR: kris (n): sponge

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lyxal

how to decimal?

si [isp kris] vishim gongula ka su [iko a aro kib aro nopirishy]...si ka su [[OP SPAMT]]: why be the [little sponge] who hates its [$4.99 life] when you can be a [[BIG SHOT]]

how do you write conditional sentences like "If <pronoun> do(es) this, <other thing> will happen"?

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

05:42

Can't do either yet

lyxal

dang. I can't even translate one of the best car commercials to katlani

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pxeger

07:44

WR: pafy (v): to become

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WR: tuhu (v): to obtain, receive

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WR: krytuhu (v): to buy

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pxeger

07:47

WR: kryfobl (v): to sell

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WR: otysh (v): to wear

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WR: zil (v): to bring

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Fmbalbuena

11:46

WR: koss (noun): Chess

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WR: nanih (n): Spanish

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WR: a (a): A

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Fmbalbuena

11:53

WR: hi (n): Hell

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Fmbalbuena

@GingerBot remove

Please

@pxeger

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Huỳnh Trần Khanh

13:02

WR: ngon (adj): attractive

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Ginger Industries

hello

@Fmbalbuena :/ I'll remove it

So I was looking around through my old code and found this strange multiplayer tech-demo thing

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14:13

Help for GingerBot

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^ pin instead of the HackMD

Wezl - a cautionary tale

@+(1 1)

sad :|

Ginger Industries

@Wezl-acautionarytale That only works in the APOL Orchard room

Wezl - a cautionary tale

can you add pn as an abbreviation for pronoun please?

Ginger Industries

@Wezl-acautionarytale I'll add it to my todo list ig

laughs in 69 70 starred messages

brb

back

Ginger Industries

14:33

brb

grandBagel

WR: mildolla (a): grand

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back

grandBagel

WR: midol (a): grand

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ta Radvylf srik su shilani

14:39

@grandBagel Why not opi?

grandBagel

@taRadvylfsriksushilani google translate

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Or maybe opos, op + fos

grandBagel

WR: pujrry (n): bagel

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@grandBagel Word contains illegal letters!

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

But you already made a word for bagel!

Wezl - a cautionary tale

14:40

yesterday, by Wezl - a cautionary tale

WR: bgil (n): bagel

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Wait no that was wezl

But still

WR: tksu (n): A spice, seasoning

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ta Radvylf srik su shilani

WR: zavod (n): A factory

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pxeger

@GingerIndustries @taRadvylfsriksushilani roga ma?

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

14:50

sy

saman pasla fos makai!

pxeger

(ask pas ma shushu kiro no ma nistaha su sik unilateral)

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

sik krio?

Ginger Industries

WR: kaikina (n): Company

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:/

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

14:52

hyhy

Ginger Industries

just got ninja'd by my own bot

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

nai digai pat si nimak su digai

pxeger

@taRadvylfsriksushilani kiro ma hada sik kiro

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

kailan ka pat hada su sik pat

Ginger Industries

"Display name may only be changed once every 30 days; you may change again in 22 hours" really

aaaaa

pxeger

14:54

@taRadvylfsriksushilani si sik bot su sik nimak? si no sik niny?

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

@GingerIndustries putsho su hyper

pxeger

"putsho su" sounds like Pig Latin for "shut up" lol

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

@pxeger nimak lait digai

pxeger

ah

Ginger Industries

@taRadvylfsriksushilani "Last person brought up For very ninja"

makes sense

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

14:56

kyngru sik "nimak" pat si lait ksiv ny, a pat si "pasmak" su ksiv krao ov idpas

pxeger

KVI: kahidai ma sabao pafy sik GitHub Organisation su sik katlani?

Ginger Industries

@pxeger sy gust

pxeger

(Kat vontark isp)

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

sy gust niny :p

@pxeger si fafasok my ka kylt y vi inglish

pxeger

sabao niny pafy y su fy borku?

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