From the *learn more* in the ballot.> In the election phase, up to 10 candidates advance to final community voting. Candidates are displayed in random order. Take a moment to read each candidate's nomination post.
When voting, you may select as many or as few candidates as you would like. You do not have to select every candidate. Order candidates by preference. Your *selection will save automatically* .
@soupless Yes, no links, I just quoted the texts, All buttons in websites do not have links [that can be easily shared/get]
@soupless Exactly, you are assuming.
>In the election phase, up to 10 candidates advance to final community voting. Candidates are displayed in random order. Take a moment to read each candidate's nomination post.
When voting, you may select as many or as few candidates as you would like. You do not have to select every candidate. Order candidates by preference. Your *selection will save automatically* .
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@soupless A number of things will tell you that your ballot has been saved (and that you've voted): (1) You earn the Constituent badge; (2) When you return to the election page, your ranking is still there from before; (3) Any change in ranking/vote should display a "Selection saved" notification (similar to how a post is saved as a draft). blatantly, wholeheartedly stolen and pasted from chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/59446007#59446007
I support @percusse in the elections, just look how cool they answer the questions! :)) "In your opinion, what do moderators do? Drink nectar and eat ambrosia."
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@enthu in many elections you can have candidates which don't take the election serious. And from the answers you could see this. So why did you vote for such a candidate?
> How would you deal with a user who produced a steady stream of valuable answers, but tends to generate a large number of arguments/flags from comments?
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That should be "Are there actual examples..." Sorry.
@FaheemMitha I guess it depends on how you see the 'large number' - I can think of some cases that would qualify, but of course I'm restricted in what I can say about them!
@FaheemMitha He's very cynical about quite a lot of stuff: my take on his nomination is that it's supposed to question the need for mods/the need for an election
I took all his answers seriously, because I think our site likes and needs such flexibility in moderation. But his comment here, not to be taken seriously, ruined all his picture in my mind...
@FaheemMitha kind of political answer, serious answers behind non-serious and flexible answers. By the way, I like such answers because they challenge such rigid questions. It questions such firm questions. An art, not everyone has. This can decrease conflicts, solve interpersonal problems in a very smooth way.
@VScode_fanboy If you go to the origional message, click on the tiny arrow and copy the "permalink". If you then paste it as only content of a chat message, it will onebox
@enthu I don't especially like all his answers like "downvote to death", but He speaks without productivity buttering crap all over the place. I have seen this productivity styling everywhere especially when you are arguing, they tend to talk like everything is fine.
@FaheemMitha I agree, such answers are too tricky, and can easily fall behind. BTW, he ruined that positive potential by his comment here to not be taken seriously. That was too pity, I believe. Otherwise, his nomination was outstanding. I mean, he could bring some new thoughts to our community.
@VScode_fanboy I understand. It is like a damper, it eases many of the bahavioural conflicts. I have seen many conflicts where moderators become part of the problem, themselves.
@enthu That was too pity, I believe making a joke answer and then warning about it because someone will only vote to him, e.g. leave X because he thinks X and percusse is enough to moderating?
@FaheemMitha I don't think he is saying he is theorizing some philosophy in our community. At least I have not read anywhere. Although his avatar is more like to be a philosopher! :)) It is just a very odd style of thinking. I think such odd style is productive. Many other think not.
@VScode_fanboy I am not trying to insist on Percussee's rightness! Specifically now that he has a bad step back on his nomination. But I believe such odd thinking can be very productive.
@FaheemMitha It is community. I think other users as well as other moderators can soften his very irrelevant ideas. But having an out of box thinker can be very useful in any community. Being too much in style is a horrible long-term problem for teams and communities.
@enthu I am not sure it makes much difference: it is possible to get some sense of people's approach in chat, but one acts differently as a mod and as a 'normal' user, so it's not that much of a guide
@FaheemMitha True
@FaheemMitha Like I said, I suspect that the stats dominate, and that does mean there are some more obvious candidates
@JosephWright By definition, it would only make a difference to people regularly present in Chat, which is a tiny proportion of the overall site users. Though a more significant proportion of the high rep users.
@enthu I think TeX SE is mostly self-governing. I guess there is some janitorial work behind the scenes. But as the Net goes, it's very quiet. No visible drama.
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werner and alan have had more significant impact and activity on the site, based on their profile… but low rep user can be good mods too. Tough to choose, BTW.
@FaheemMitha We typically have about 10 flags open, and we tend not to rush them - unless it's urgent, I wait to make sure we've all had a chance to see the flag and think about it
@enthu It's not like a 'real' election with costs, time, etc. to campaign - I hope most people see that it's a question of writing a few statements then waiting
@FaheemMitha Well yes, one has to answer a certain number of questions. But a few well-chosen ones early in the life of the site will build rep without actually doing very much
@FaheemMitha My point was that newer users will almost always have lower rep, but that does not rule them out as mods
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@enthu one of the tasks for a moderator is to resolve conflicts. As amusing witty remarks are (and I liked them too) the main thing a candidate must imho demonstrate is that they can communicate without sarcasmus and take other people seriously.
@UlrikeFischer agreed. IMO, if he had not taken that step back from nomination, some signs of seriousness was apparent. But he clearly states he should not be taken seriously. So, sadly, his nomination was useless and it ruined his constructive approach.
@enthu Sorry but if I ask you why do you want to get moderator and you tell me so that you can drink nectar all the time, you are disregarding my question. That is not taking people seriously.
@UlrikeFischer yes, and we can find many of his irrelevant ideas in that post. But I am not a 0/1 person and I think with that way of thinking, if he 'try' to do something meaningful to his community, he will have huge more effect than using very regular way of thinking and expressions. Minority out-of-box thinkers are usually more influential.
That is why, in the first, I gave him my vote. But when he stepped back by saying not to take him seriously, it turned out that he was not serious at all. So I changed my vote.
The 6th is someone who nominated themselves after the election started, just to test if it would show up as an extra candidate who people cannot actually vote for. The test was successful, clearly disrupted an election involving 100s or 1000s of people.
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@DavidCarlisle That seems a bit restrictive. In the DPL elections one can ask while the election is on. Usually there is a fair amount on discussion on the mailing lists.
@FaheemMitha Ha ha! By season I mean throughout the year. Sometimes there are things to discuss and I know I could get a hold of someone quite readily in chat...
...but other times I'm more active on the main/meta part, not chat.
@FaheemMitha Yeah. I used it for some of my previous work when there was a request for document automation, and I've used it in the private sector as well when I did a project for a New York-based law firm.
It really depends on the audience, since some things require expertise that may need to be passed on to people (maintenance), and not everyone works with LaTeX every day.
@FaheemMitha Yes. I wrote some scripts that would compile standard statistical/questionnaire reporting into a document at a government-wide level. Previously it was extremely error-prone.
The outcome was, unfortunately, to use a different approach, but it worked very well in my opinion. Much faster and more accurate than previous approaches. Consistency was the obvious benefit.
@FaheemMitha There's some merit in markdown (or some form of readily accepted/available programming language) when it comes to business continuity. At the time I did that project it was something that I thought I'd test and showcase on my own, since nobody else had ideas. Rather step up than sit back and do nothing... that's how I felt.
@FaheemMitha I work full time for government as an analyst. So there's plenty of document creation going on. But often you collaborate with others, so I can't really use something that only I would be comfortable with manipulating.
@FaheemMitha Yes... there's plenty of that in government. It's okay if people use it with the document structure in mind. But the ease of document creation in Word has made people forget that there's things like sections and paragraphs. They just format something and things it's a section. Of course, you can do the same in (La)TeX, but the structure is somewhat forced upon you when you want things to be done automatically.
@FaheemMitha Well, our site has had a visually light load on moderators, in my opinion. I'm open to the experience of seeing where I can contribute in that sense. I still want to be a community member, contributing answers and asking questions, so that won't go away.
@FaheemMitha Well, moderation isn't something that always has to be dealt with immediately. There's time to resolve things through discussion with other moderators, or handle it after some reflection/consultation.
We're not firefighting here, and the site is different from other garbage collection like [so[.
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Hey, quick and probably silly question. After ranking candidates on your ballot, do you have to explicitly cast your ballot, or is waiting for it to be saved enough to have it be counted?
@chsk apparently it just auto saves (and you can change) and the setting at the end of the election is what counts. The interface seems very strange, you are not the first to ask (and I spent some time looking for a vote button as well)
@DavidCarlisle Alright, thanks for the tip. (And I'm glad I'm not the only one who was wondering about this --- at least it's not (just) my hare-brainedness then. :) )
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