Good morning! Do you agree that tex.stackexchange.com/q/425525/4543 should be asked on graphic design SE rather than tex SE?

@Christoph It is a question that would be on-topic here.

I cannot say whether it is on-topic on tex, though. I'd be hesitant to migrate a question if it is on-topic on its current site.

so, following that logic, what you are asking is 'is this question off-topic on tex?' to which the answer can only be given by tex users, and not GDSE users :)

Hey @Vince you're still bearing you shiny blue thingy... :P

@Vincent The question has one comment on tex.se indicating that it might be more on-topic on graphic design. Nobody said that it's off-topic on tex SE, so I'm just looking for the better fit. So if you agree that it's a reasonable fit for GDSE, I might have it moved to GDSE.

@WELZ I know, right. :|

The community team is dead silent about it

They don't want you to leave.

@Christoph I'd not be in favour of that, to be honest

And you still have tools, right?

If the Q is on-topic on its current site, leave it there

@WELZ yeah I do

If you delete suspend one of their accounts/socks.... :O

following that logic it would stay on tex se

whose? the CT?

@Christoph yes indeed

uhuh

I don't think I can :)

an dI'm not going to find out

@WELZ how have you been?

poor question doesn't have a real home :(

@Christoph hehe. That happens more often with questions that straddle subjects

I do have an opinion on the matter though, if you want to hear it ;)

@Vincent Doing good, yourself?

Just got back form a week of holiday, so pretty okay at the moment

and taking distance from stuff on here has certainly added to the zen :)

:D

1 week sounds like a lot... ? :/

does it?

look who's there, it's our @JohnB !

waves

hi! I can verify it is indeed me!

how did you convince the CT to delete your diamond?

I can't get them to :P

@Vincent hah, I just checked the e-mail I sent. They did ignore me for a month :P

keep pestering

@Vincent please go ahead, I'd be happy to hear it!

@JohnB oh then I'll have to wait for five more days :P

you can also comment the question directly, of course

@Christoph Don't do it. The tables 'eating' into the graph area makes both difficult to read and distract from each other

if you need both tables and graph on the same page, shrink the graph. Compress its x-axis if necessary

your current proposal looks very cluttered and busy and therefore has low legibility

all imho, of course :)

I second that o!

@Vincent compressing the x-axis would make it harder to read the axis itself, which currently has an even increment of entropy per mm. The smaller version of the diagram had a 1mm grid which was comfortable to work with

Can't you change the scale and reduce the number of labels on it?

I'd have to limit the range instead of shrinking the axis (not too bad an option, but still a loss of coverage)

(sorry, never used TeX myself)

changing the scaling and range is no problem technically

@JohnB how fares the drawing of 3D bottles?

@Christoph: In general, this looks like a good critique question and I agree that it is not about TeX (you would have the same issue if you made the diagram with MS Paint or whatever).

However, some clarifications would be good: Do you have any space restrictions due to which you need to cram stuff?

What exactly is the context for this diagram? A poster, figure in a paper, or something else?

Do you expect that people need to find what phase is at a specific point or is the general structure and alignment of phases more relevant?

@Wrzlprmft the context would be poster-like, but in principle still be usable like the smaller diagram on A2 paper. I admit that this diagram on A0 wouldn't fit on most desks like the A2 one. I guess I'd put all those explanations into the critique question then.

I'd need to prepare a lot of example drawing to explain all the use cases

You do not necessarily need to go into detail. Most of our users aren’t physicists after all. (I, however, am and am just checking for an XY problem.)

@Vincent @Johnb with green juice :S

It’s just that I have seen numerous cases where people went out of their way to make a diagram usable for a purpose that is not actually relevant for their audience.

I can relate to that

@Vincent it fares well! I'd like to think I'm getting pretty good at rapidly modelling bottles and boxes with Blender :)

I'll drink to that! :P

It's actually kind of a zen process, I get a new die-line for a box then trace it in Blender and fold it and make all the necessary cuts

depending on the complexity of the cuts it can be a fun puzzle :)

I've always wanted to try my hand at package design one day but I can imagine that it's devilishly difficult

It's always nice when I hear about people that have fun doing their job! :)

that's how it should be

@Christoph I forgot: welcome to the Ink Spot

It's not terribly difficult, but there are a lot of rules and regulations for food products that most people have no idea about (including me before working here)

for the US, that is

for example: if you want a picture of lemons on the front of your lemonade bottle, but your lemonade also contains apple juice, you also have to include a picture of an apple

wtf

see how they have sneaky carrots in the back there ^

That's why naked juice bottles look so good

they have to have that because there is carrot juice in the product, but it's in the back because they want to hide it a little :)

When I was younger, I remember using the picture to identify the fruit in my juice.

And I probably still do it xD

haha yup same here

@WELZ It makes kind of sense for people with allergies. There is a considerable amount of people who are allergic to apples and apple juice is used to extend a lot of fruit juices.

insider juice tip: apple juice is one of the cheapest juices you can get so a lot of juices are just apple juice masked with "natural flavors" to make it taste like watermelon or fruit punch or whatever

I have allergies, I read the ingredients.

Yes, you can read the list of ingredients, but who would expect that watermelon juice contains 20 % apples.

@JohnB That, I already knew :)

:O a fellow insider

I heard that the word "Natural" isn't regulated....

@WELZ Well, how would you regulate it? Everything is natural eventually.

hence my point

you are correct fda.gov/Food/GuidanceRegulation/…

That all natural msg, mmmmmmmm

haha

there has been some media attention for this here in the Netherlands

some juice brands promoted themselves as 'blackcurrant juice', while being, say, 1.5% blackcurrant, 3% red beet and the rest apple juice

sneaky sneaky

we even have an annual 'award' called the 'golden ova subventanea' (shell-less egg, it's a term in Dutch) which is given to the brand that played their customers for fools the worst

haha, I think that would be tough to judge in America

finding "the least" might be easier

Yeh in america it's great, they just get a class action lawsuit 😎

Hello! I've redesigned the splash screen (and overall "branding") for my OSS software, and so far the feedback (based on a whopping 6 votes on Twitter) is the the new design feels kind of dull. I'm wondering if here would be a good place to ask for ideas - I'd like to update the branding (the original design is from 2015), but keep some color in while still looking professional...

Context:

(the reply has the new & old designs side by side)

I'm guessing it would be too subjective a question for the main site?

I personally think that the font choice(s) aren't the greatest.

Showcard Gothic has been the project's signature font forever though

@MathieuGuindon we do allow critique questions here! Here are the guidelines we have to make them fit within the SE Q&A format: graphicdesign.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/681/…

Ok thanks!

BTW this project started next door on Code Review SE (where I'm a moderator until elections end in 24 hours) =)

o7

@Cai and @WELZ I'm getting the same strange bends and buckles as the OP in this question graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/q/107832/8708

might be a bug

Use Cai's method, it's better Lol

I did :p

@JohnB I get some weird stuff in the center (like yours).

Cai's method is truly awesome!

And it's all just one line :D

I'm getting gross not-one-lines

Destructive method xD

I expanded it to show the anchors

Applying the Twist first then the Transform effect is a workaround

What's the easiest way to make a shape like this? as a triangle, not a diamond.

Like that, but actually done properly and geometrically.

I can give you a non proper or geometrical answer :)

I managed to get this, but it involved some manual alignment (I got lucky and it worked on my 1st try...)

that's probably more proper than my method

I just kept rotating the shape 60°

and snapping the anchor handle to the guide

I'm sure that @joojaa would have some useful insight here

I was thinking the same thing :P

though with your method, if you stack two circles on top of each other then rotate them 60 degrees you can then use smart guides to stack the third

I like that idea, seems to work pretty easily.

well I'm sure you've got it but I made a GIF anyway

forgive my speed all I have is a trackpad :)

@JohnB @joojaa post your solutions here

You can draw one sphere then the second align it then rotate the third by 60degrees

That was John's method...

I thought there's gotta be another way.

Using that method still isn't perfect, see i.stack.imgur.com/elYrw.png

you are right, mine isn't perfect either

I'll have to play with it later

@WELZ its not perfect since circles in illustrator are bezier splines thus they dont align exactly the way you think circles should!

@WELZ i can make a example of how to makei it out of a 12 egment circle if you must be that pedantic

"if you must be that pedantic" says the Finnish engineer :D

@joojaa I must xD

@JohnB posted - don't hesitate to let me know if I'm doing this wrong... the first "on-topic example" link is ...closed as off-topic/opinion-based!

@MathieuGuindon *facepalm*

:)

LMAO

well, I nominated it for re-opening. I'd hammer it open if I still had the power :P

I'd vote, given ~2.9K more rep :)

@MathieuGuindon is the new logo SVG available anywhere?

it's actually a .pdn file on my home desktop.. the .svg is just the ducky

the duck is what I want!

lol

I have it in an email somewhere, a contributor made it (based on the stock ducky)

@MathieuGuindon I made do with a different ducky, but I added my 2¢ :)

thanks, upvoted. I'm thinking of incorporating a fait version of the "swirling code" in the background, to cut the white background. I like your colorful approach

just had a chat with Ryan, too

cool :)

oh, a downvote!

probably came with a close vote that I can't see :)

It's not automatic.

You had 2 close votes, I voted to leave open now it only shows 1. meh

ah

oh well

@JohnB fancy stuff you made.

don't worry about it, this community has a bit of a fractured agreement on what should be kept around in regards to critique and tech support. I'd argue very strongly to keep your question around, it's a great example of an objective critique

Maybe edit it into the list :o

oh, I'll leave it up to y'all to decide what happens with it!

idk, I made the original list and one of those questions got closed ;P

I'll add it, it can always be removed by just about anyone with a bit of rep

maybe give it a week or so to see if the community agrees to keep it around

@JohnB 2 years later. :/

apparently Ryan wants to put up a bounty on it... grabs popcorn

That's great!

that said I totally understand that critique questions are hard.

/gray-area

yep.

haha, our scope disagreements are pretty civil around here. We just make endless meta posts about it without things ever really getting concretely resolved because there's never going to be a black and white solution :P

polite disagreements :)

lol, so he who casts the last vote, wins

LOL

That's literally how all our meta issues work here at GDSE

hahah, well summarized

> It's hard to design a logo that conveys "professionalism" if you're going to stick with Showcard Gothic

challenge accepted

:D

I said hard, not impossible!

hey at least it's not Comic Sans!

true :)

I'm off, later folks!

later!

@JohnB I had to go through 4 different dictionaries before finding epuration that didn't specifically say it was for government purification -.-

I'm tempted to post: "Anyone know the font? [image of scribbles]"

@Ryan I guess this is where my French-nativeness shows :)

@WELZ closes as a dupe of the one asked 45 minutes ago

xD

wait no, can't do that here

Flag as dupe...

lol, forgot about that functionality...

#ModProblems

or really, just the kind of things you forget when you've had >3K rep for as long as you can remember...

looking at some of the designs out there... I'd say my stuff isn't half bad actually :)

of particular note:

anyway, time to get stuck in traffic...

As a Microsoft Excel MVP that was awarded MVP specifically for my Rubberduck project and my SO contributions in the VBA landscape, it's hard to keep calm and not be blunt responding to that.