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1:33 PM
Howdy room
 
howdy
 
Room: Hey @johnp, welcome back
 
haha thanks Welz. How's your week going
took a week off to do absolutely nothing
though I'm very close to finally getting a laptop in the next few days
 
hey @johnp good to see you're alive :P
and hi room o/
 
very much so! think my black heart can still muster a beat or two >:)
 
1:39 PM
oooh bathos
 
Can a mod please take care of this non-answer
 
@WELZ gone
 
there goes my upvoted (2) comment :(
Lol
 
@WELZ doffs hat
it will remembered in our hearts, always
 
ooooh, room is filling up. o.O
 
1:46 PM
greetings
 
hey @DᴀʀᴛʜVᴀᴅᴇʀ how have you been?
 
busy and good you?
 
about the same. just got back from another work trip, looking into some online courses and also art festivals
 
@Ryan any... job developments?
 
@Ryan Saw that pic of you with the waves crashing, very epic haha
 
1:58 PM
@Vincent not really. Applied to a few more but no contacts yet. Going to try to get some certifications done to bolster my credentials
@johnp heh thanks
 
did you get soaked? lol
 
@Ryan slow but heavy swings the club
That was an awesome pic indeed! :O
 
@johnp yes, yes I did. Luckily I had a sweatshirt with me so took my shirt off and just wore that the rest of the time lol
 
how's it goin everybody
 
you got to suffer for the art!
 
2:02 PM
It was partially planned. Some girls asked me to photograph them in the same position but they were scared of the waves and avoiding them. After that I asked them to take one of me and just went for it. Glad they did a good job catching the moment
For those that have no idea what we're talking about:
 
oh wow that's pretty epic!
 
@Ryan Awesome shot!!
 
thanks!
I really need to relocate out to Southern California. I love it there
 
where was this?
 
Orange County - Laguna Beach. The entire area was started as an artist colony and still has schools of art, multiple large art festivals and lots of galleries
 
2:19 PM
have you considered changing the colors so that it's molten lava instead
 
@JohnB hahaha I did not
 
@JohnB bahahaha, good idea, new design (photoshop) challenge for all of us
 
 
 
@JohnB what'd you do for that?
 
2:22 PM
thats the only photo I've shared so far. Have a few more to process
 
@WELZ the old "try different blend modes until it looks okay" trick ;P
@Ryan very pretty! nice!
 
aha, that explains it.
New post: How can I make water lava?

I has a piktsher of water i need it to be lava, helps pls!

{inserts image here}
 
:D
 
@JohnB looks like water with red food coloring
 
So hellish
the evil grin! haha
 
2:27 PM
reminds me of this
 
Glad you all enjoy editing photos of me :\
 
your photos are inspirational! :)
really very cool though. Did you have your camera on a tripod all set up and they just had to hit the button?
 
2:50 PM
@Ryan sounds like a cool place
 
@JohnB nope, changed it to auto everything and handed it to them.
I did have Burst / Continuous mode turned on as well
 
wow, lucky!
every time I hand my friends my camera it comes out looking terribly :D
 
3:36 PM
CC: @Ryan @JohnB
 
4:03 PM
@WELZ oh man. Poor Ryan is never gonna post pictures again :P
@johnp very cool!
 
I think the only way I'd ever be interested in one of those Alexa jobbies would be for that sort of dystopian vibe :D
 
4:50 PM
@WELZ roflolmao
 
5:44 PM
@Ryan And here I thought you were this old dude that just liked to sit at park benches to consider all things having to do with art.
 
@LateralTerminal Lol, that's just his profile pic
Feb 12 at 17:52, by WELZ
@Ryan I've always wondered about your profile pic...
His response:
Feb 12 at 17:53, by Ryan
@WELZ congrats!
:/
 
@WELZ I've got some decisive info on his profile pic if you're curious
 
I'm curious
 
If you remove the nonesense characters at the end of his pic you get the high res version
using this version of the picture you can easily create a reliable reverse image search
This information actually provides us with more information than you think
 
no lol - that gibberish is imgur, displaying it in lower res so it fits in the box
 
5:47 PM
It proves (most likely) that this image was indeed taken by Ryan.
 
I think it's a picture that he took
jinx
 
Of some random old guy he saw at the park
 
?s=128&g=1
 
It makes him look wise, laid back, and sophisticated.
 
just add that to any imgur and it'll open in 128px
 
5:49 PM
@WELZ right. I was just saying that's how I found the high res version of his icon
In case you didn't know :P
 
Alright Lat, what is your profile pic?
 
Some random image from google images
 
random, eh?
 
@WELZ Ah shit I hurt someone's feelings
 
WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
:P
Suspended :(
 
5:52 PM
Oh I just like the test pattern XD @WELZ
The ban was specifically because I said:

"Alright great I could care less about your race or personal friendships."

Because it was off topic from the point I was trying to make.

I'm not an expert on political correctness but I don't see anything wrong with this statement.

@ovaryraptor Sorry if I hurt your feelings
 
Lateral, you were suspended for one day after we had already sent you a warning to step back from that discussion. The answer received a dozen flags on various comments all around. If you feel others were Rude first then do not engage, flag it and walk away. That was stated in the first mod message we sent (with no suspension), its also been discussed at length in meta. graphicdesign.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/2844/…
(I would not be talking about this in here but you brought it up)
I have a meeting now. Later
 
@Ryan I never received the first warning.
Even if it was sent.
@Ryan
Off topic:

Did you get permission to photograph some random old guy at the park? Or did you just hope he doesn't use the internet and wouldn't find out?
 
6:16 PM
@LateralTerminal I'm perfectly ok, the fact that you were out of line digging beyond the scope of the site and dismissing the cultural relation on an Iranian's question was out of line.
 
@Ovaryraptor I think the cultural aspect is what everyone is missing from this question. We don't import many Iranian products. The products we do import are not sold on the same shelf as American products.
We manufacture a lot of stuff in Iran. But that's not an import. Imported products typically are not sold next to domestic products. Therefore commonsense marketing doesn't apply in this case.
Why should OP care about how his product looks like next to an American product if it will never be next to an American product?
Someone needs to say that "In America most imports from Iran are not in the same section"
Instead OP needs to consider how his product looks next to other foreign products.
I'm not thick headed @Ovaryraptor I'm willing to discuss this with you. You can convince me otherwise if you believe what I'm saying is false.
 
@LateralTerminal I somewhat disagree to that comment. Some grocery items are catered to that authenticity because of its classification, for example, international foods are best sold together to meet that culture.
 
@DᴀʀᴛʜVᴀᴅᴇʀ But they are still sold in the international section. See my point?
They aren't sold in the domestic section
I mentioned in my original answer I said
 
@LateralTerminal not always. By your logic clothes that are made in Iran are sold on different racks the others.
 
@DᴀʀᴛʜVᴀᴅᴇʀ Are we talking about clothes made in Iran or clothes designed in Iran? Because that clarification is important.
 
6:26 PM
all the above
 
@DᴀʀᴛʜVᴀᴅᴇʀ You can't have all the above. An import is when it's designed in Iran and imported here. If it's a picture of mickey mouse on a shirt and it's manufactured in Iran is it an Iranian product? No, it's an american product manufactured in Iran.
 
by that logic seems you're saying Iran cant design a polo or button down shirt
 
@DᴀʀᴛʜVᴀᴅᴇʀ They sure can.
 
Cai
@LateralTerminal why does it matter if a product is in a different section of the store or not?
 
6:29 PM
@Cai Have you ever heard of the salad dressing marketing strategy?
 
Cai
If I know a product is going to be sold in Japan, I'll take in to consideration Japanese customs, regardless of whether it'll be next to other Japanese products or not
 
@Cai I agree with that
The question specifically asked about marketing placement of an Iranian import next to American merchandise. That's why it matters. It matters because typically in America we place foreign products in a different section of the store.
 
Cai
@LateralTerminal nowhere does the question say anything about a product being physically next to an American product. It just says it will be sold "in the USA"
 
You missed it @Cai
What are some things I can do to better understand the design space in a foreign country to feel more confident my designs will be equal or better than ones created by native designers?
 
Cai
huh? that doesn't say anything where the product is going to be in the store
 
6:33 PM
@Cai correct. It does not.
Cultural knowledge of America is what dictates that.
Perhaps OP does not realize that in America we don't put foreign products right next to domestic products.
 
Cai
I still have no idea why that makes any difference to anything
 
@Cai The difference it makes is that OP shouldn't care about "my designs will be equal or better than ones created by native designers"
He specifically want's to know about a comparison to native designers.
He shouldn't care about that. He should consider how it looks next to designs it would be next to. That's the marketing part of the question.
 
Cai
Of course he should care
 
@Cai Why do you believe that?
 
Cai
because "not caring" seems absurd
The fact that something is on a different shelf, isle, section, room, whatever is of course important to take in to consideration, but just saying "don't care" is crazy. You should absolutely care how your product/design/whatever is perceived and who is viewing it and where that is happening is very important to that
 
6:53 PM
I'm back
@LateralTerminal Not sure why you didn't receive the first warning. All signs indicate it did go through
@LateralTerminal Neither one. Model releases aren't needed for it. I don't use it in any advertisements or marketing collateral. Its street photography in a public place. The only time that requires a model release is if I then sell the piece which I am not doing.
 
@LateralTerminal if you click on your inbox and scroll down you can see whether you got the first warning or not.
@LateralTerminal @DᴀʀᴛʜVᴀᴅᴇʀ +1
 
7:11 PM
@LateralTerminal The core-aspect of product design is to know and adapt to your market.
@La
@LateralTerminal Another thing to take into consideration is large chains like Kroger or Wegmans will mostly strictly adhere to product placement guidelines based on the pay-to-place model but smaller retailers won't. So the likelihood of products being shifted around is higher.
 
7:24 PM
I'm going to guess that there is some cultural rift between Wisconsin(ers) and Missouri(ans)...

It may even be political. Wisconsin tends to usually go blue, while Missouri is usually Red. (Looking at the last ~15 elections).
Just sayin
 
Heya @ArtOfCode how goes life?
 
Not bad, not bad
 
welcome @ArtOfCode, what brings you to this messy (ink) room?
 
The mysterious workings of space and time
 
well, you may want to wear a smock... :P
 

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