@BESW Conversely, the fact that you do make money from your projects does not have to mean that they aren't creative.

Naturally.

I met an old friend today in the museum coffee shop and was able to point out two books for sale that I'd designed. That felt nice.

@BESW wow, that's pretty cool indeed

actually having an impact of society ;)

@Vincent do you mean "the fact that you do make money, doesn't mean that it is creative"?

@WELZ No, quite the opposite. He's resisting the false dichotomy that one is either artistic or mercenary.

ie, it's not selling out to get paid for creative work.

What @BESW said

@Vincent I have to ask, how'd you make your profile pic (did you just do it manually with the pen tool?)

@WELZ yes I did

I traced it manually over a photo

this is the full thing

It looks so different when it's cropped (because my brain fills in how the rest looks)

I know :)

~how long did it take?

I fiddled with it quite a while, it wasn't a focused job

I'd say some 5ish hours?

I actually sold one of these recently. Customer was interested in having one for herself, so I'll be making another one soon :)

hey @DᴀʀᴛʜVᴀᴅᴇʀ how's old raspybreath?

good, just busy taking over the galaxy. been doing training lately on JavaScript

that will at least net you a moon :D

@DᴀʀᴛʜVᴀᴅᴇʀ so... you are training your own personnel

@Vincent yes but I cant fire them, just unconditional love...

lol

Lol

heya ryan, how's it going

its going alright

and you?

things are hectic at work, but I'm hanging in there.

I dont even know what you do for work

IT

@Ryan to be honest, I don't really either know...