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CAI
9:01 AM
FYI (anyone who was here here when I was asking about skipped reviews) you can still access the skipped reviews from the review history
 
 
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10:10 AM
Why is it that every time I see somebody mentioning that they are using paint bucket, i also see that they argue about their answers. Seriously do you guys use paint bucket tool for ANYTHING?
 
10:36 AM
I use it to recolor some flat-coloured *.png files.
sometimes
 
CAI
11:14 AM
I genuinely can't remember the last time I used the paint bucket tool
 
11:29 AM
Right because it wouldn't occur to use it. But beginners like it for some reason
 
beginners usually have used Paint
there it is a heavily used function
 
Probably
As to why one would use paint bucket in paint.... same problem as in photoshop
BTW the new member in:
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Q: How do you create a inner 3D perspective effect in Photoshop CC?

Xtreme HavocI have a client who really wants something like this but unable to find a better quality anywhere. Is there a way to recreate this effect in photoshop or illustrator? Thanks!

 
I haven't used paint in 20 years :)
 
Deserves a upvote if for nothing esle than effort
Paint is now a vector application of sorts...
It draws vectors that on object change commits them to pixels
 
shiver
 
11:35 AM
Yeah
I had this argument one day about vectors. It went like this.
If you can do it in pixel editor then do it
my argument was since the data is CLEARLY vector material you should use that as it brings you more edit options.
In essene you loose nothing and gain everything
Its not like any of us have never ever changed our mind.
 
shrug most people do not understand the difference between pixels and vectors anyway
 
most people do not understand vecor anyway... and basically define it if it aint pixel its vector ;P
 
12:38 PM
> Always listen to what your heart says. - this post
 
 
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2:03 PM
I don't think I have ever legitimately used the paint bucket
This has been flagged as NAA, but I'm inclined to leave it because it does address a real potential issue with the premise. Any thoughts?
 
I voted it up
 
morning my brothers... wait.. brothers.. so is this chat a fraternity then??
 
Gamma Delta Sigma Epsilon
Sounds like a fraternity to me
 
ΓΔΣΕ
 
@PieBie sig ep is a frat
 
2:16 PM
Could be. I'm from Belgium, so about all I know about American fraternities is that they use Greek letters for some obscure reason and they drink a lot...
 
depends on the frat, but yes
Seg Ep here is one of the better ones who don't drink a lot
 
yeah, I figure there would be others (just like here) but in popular culture (i.e. Hollywood comedies) you only get the clichés
 
CAI
2:31 PM
@JohnB that ansewer simply isn't true. It may be true for certain universities in a certain locale but its definitely not true everywhere.
(i don't know about the NAA.. but its definitely not a true answer)
 
true, but I think it'd be better to edit in the location stipulation than to remove the answer altogether
 
CAI
@JohnB agreed
@ZachSaucier what you up to with tall the tag editing?
I've been looking for tag wikis to edit/write so let me know if you think any of them need it
 
burning
will do
 
CAI
ah i see
you didnt remove on this..
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Q: Finding the right graphic designer for a project with no budget

jamessonI am the tech lead on a new consumer product for the Asian market (mainland china, HK, et al). We are looking for a graphic designer to take responsibility for both the product design and overall look of the brand. Before we commit to anyone, we'd like to take a look at some rough ideas they migh...

 
@Darth_Vader you on for a WP Q?
 
2:37 PM
sup, and happy friday
answering old questions, this sound right? graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/6009/…
I hate answering questions in a rush, lol
 
Ok, I just stressed out for sometihing really, really weird.
and Happy Friday to you too! :D
Darth, everytime I have a WP panic and I ask you, I find the solution just after I ask you. You are a miracle! :D
 
my name is the miracle.. darth... lol.. what was the issue?
 
my functions.php broke the grid view in the Media lib and caused some whitescreens to appear
 
@CAI whoops
 
apptly you need to get rid of the closing ?> in functions.php to fix it
 
2:41 PM
@Vincent oh the wonderful white screen of death
yes you're not allowed to close the functions.php file..
 
@Darth_Vader nah, media list view was ok, but grid view gets an eternal loader
 
there was an article somewhere I recall that said why
 
I just found that out the hard way :/
 
CAI
@Vincent you shouldn't use close tags on php files at all really
 
...say what?
 
CAI
2:43 PM
theres an SO post about it
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Q: Why would one omit the close tag?

danipI keep reading it is poor practice to use the PHP close tag ?> at the end of the file. The header problem seems irrelevant in the following context (and this is the only good argument so far): Modern versions of PHP set the output_buffering flag in php.ini If output buffering is enabled, y...

 
@CAI yes this is correct
 
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Q: Child theme functions.php do I use php open and close tags?

AnagioI setup a child theme which works fine. It's importing the main style.css and has custom css styles along with custom header.php and footer.php files When using functions.php in a child theme it's going to append the child themes functions.php to the main theme. Do I need to wrap my functions in...

 
@CAI never read the manual :P
 
CAI
@Vincent is that read (reed) or read (red)?
gotta love the english language lol
 
2:46 PM
Ive lived in the manual the past couple of days learning how PHP handles JSON
 
past participle
 
@CAI red
 
CAI
ok... you should read :)
 
@CAI lol
 
CAI
@ZachSaucier how do you know? @Vincent said it ;) Both make perfect sense but mean completely different things
 
2:47 PM
as in 'I never read it'
Zach knows how much of a n00b I am
 
@Vincent could still technically be the other....
@Vincent lol
 
'have never read it'
 
speaking of JSON.. there has got to be some good tutorials on creating the file.
 
is burned. Do you mods do anything at this point or just wait for it to disappear?
 
CAI
anyway... ive got to go rescue my cat from the corner shop
whos owners are terrified of cats :/
 
2:49 PM
@CAI is it a restaurant? O_o
 
CAI
@Darth_Vader no just a small corner shop. groceries n stuff
 
I red that as if he wondered down there, looking for some cat food or catnip..
 
@CAI One implies the other: "I never read the manual, that's why I never read it."
 
@PieBie that could still be read (lol) as all present tense
'Is my habit to never read the manual, therefore, I never do any reading of it'
 
@Vincent yes, but then you're just repeating yourself
 
2:53 PM
that's not something I'd ever do. I'll never repeat myself. Ever.
 
^^ lol
 
ok.. i feel like Im in the English chatroom..
 
where two Dutch speaking guys are lol'ing over English ambivalence :D
 
CAI
unrhyw un yn siarad cymraeg?
I'm guessing not :p
Cat has been recovered anyway
 
@PieBie my thoughts! :D
@CAI I.. think you're asking if any of us speak Welsh
yay, Google translate gives me a gold star :D
 
CAI
3:00 PM
That's cheating
 
uh... I guessed before checking
scout's honour... although I never was a scout
 
anyone else here work with JSON?
 
I am very familiar with JSON but not as it relates to PHP
 
have any good documentation to save it over with JavaScript and how to cache it as a session?
 
what do you mean by save it over?
 
3:10 PM
my big issue is I can pull JSON but what is the most secure way to save it as a file on a server. I found not all web hosting companies allow fopen()
 
well you'd probably want to use a database
does it need to be a file?
 
trying to learn how to handle the JSON really. All the research I've done appear to be making a request every time, I'm wanting to learn how to call the JSON file for what I need in timed increments, like every 5 mins
trying to understand JSON usage and also prevent hitting my call limits on a site.
 
it sounds like there is another technology in place here, JSON is just a way to structure data
 
my goal this weekend is to create a wp site that pulls etsy into a widget and create a page that pulls an instagram feed and profile image. Then I will dive into creating a realtor app that pulls JSON into a site..
etsy is done but Im unsure if fwrite($fp, $jsonified); fclose($fp); will be allowed.
 
CAI
@Darth_Vader if youre in WP just save it to the database. no need for files
just save the whole JSON string as is to the database
 
3:17 PM
would need to learn how to do that, and kind-of iffy on the process.
I could do that but I need to dive into the updating aspect
 
CAI
im super busy at the mo but ill see if I can help you out later this eve
 
when I looked it up I did see: wordpress.stackexchange.com/questions/32509/…
@CAI ok thanks
no hurry this is just something I want to learn that will open a lot up for me. so getting JSON and handling JSON is what I need to achieve.
 
There are a few things to tackle here: making an API request, rate limiting those API requests, storing the data, displaying the data
that is probably the order I would tackle them in
 
yes that is correct OB1
id find a course on Lynda I've watched on a part of it but it wasn't a very good tutorial
its a good primer but doesnt really cover how to handle it other than making requests.
 
CAI
3:26 PM
You've got the JSON call and response part sorted yeh? you just need to parse the JSON and store the result? that right?
 
@CAI yes. I also want to make sure Im understanding it because I will spend the next couple of months deep in JSON.
 
I don't think you need to be deep in JSON for what you are doing
 
well Im needing to learn JSON for work and what's best; also going to be building more like this: css-tricks.com/using-the-wp-api-to-fetch-posts
but I need to pull JSON feeds from people so handling it correctly is very important
 
right but if your server side language is PHP then you're still going to be working in PHP for the most part
perhaps looking at the raw JSON for debugging
 
CAI
yeh as long as your getting the response from the API ok you dont really need to worry about it.. just use json_decode() to turn it in to an array then store it in the db as you would anything else
json_decode to turn it in to array(or object maybe) is the key
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Q: Reading JSON in PHP with only the libraries in Wordpress

baudotI want to read JSON data coming in to a server that has just enough PHP installed to run WordPress. I can create new .php files, but I don't have the admin permissions to add any libraries that aren't already there. What's the easiest way to grab & parse the JSON data out of an http request in ...

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Q: json_decode to array

Harsha M VI am trying to decode a JSON string into an array but i get the following error. Fatal error: Cannot use object of type stdClass as array in C:\wamp\www\temp\asklaila.php on line 6 Here is the code: <?php $json_string = 'http://www.domain.com/jsondata.json'; $jsondata = file_get_con...

anyway i'm off for now. later people
 
3:32 PM
well the issue is Im not always going to be able to use wp so that is why Im waiting to also figure it out with JavaScript and save it to a file to call on.. so learning both ways would be helpful
 
@Darth I think you're getting hung up on client side vs. server side
first pick how you want to do this. On the server or on the client?
 
@JohnB that's just it I need to learn how to do it both ways
 
then I would probably start with server side and ignore the JSONP stuff
server side is going to be PHP
clients can't run PHP, so that's where the JSONP comes in to play
server side PHP tutorial: https://www.etsy.com/developers/documentation/getting_started/requests
client side JS tutorial: https://www.etsy.com/developers/documentation/getting_started/jsonp
 
I don't think that answer does any saving to the DB
I'm not even sure how that answer answers the question
> I'll leave the manipulation of these results to the reader.
your answer is in another castle?
 
CAI
3:48 PM
The saving to the db part should be trivial. Just save it as an option as you would any other option in your widget or site or custom field if it's related to a specific post etc. As soon as you've got the JSON response and turn it in to an array, that's all it is, an array, you can forget it came from JSON
You're right that outside WP you would need to worry about other stuff like writing to a file etc but if your in WP and PHP there's no need for any of that
 
little confused.. will work on this later. thanks guys
 
CAI
I know I did something similar with JSON in WP recently but cant for the life of me remember where. I'll have a look later this eve
 
4:19 PM
anyone gonna be watching Daredevil this weekend? @Ryan @Vincent
 
@JohnB wish I were :(
 
I was tempted to start last night but the release time was scheduled for the west coast, so 3am instead of 12am
 
I'm having a lot of social commitments this weekend
and the next. and the one after that X|
 
argh! Well I'll be sure to keep any spoilers out of visibility in chat then :)
 
yes puhleaze :)
 
4:36 PM
I'll probably watch some on Saturday night and then Sunday but I don't marathon shows
 
I expect I'll watch maybe 6 episodes over the weekend
 
CAI
I watched the first ep first thing this morn!
My wife is going out tonight so I'll be watching as many as is humanly possible
 
I'm looking forward to it, Jon Bernthal was awesome in The Walking Dead
 
CAI
yep. i think they cast him perfectly
 
 
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CAI
6:48 PM
@ZachSaucier you've made this look like a GD business advice forum!
 
7:28 PM
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Q: Is asking how to achieve an effect with certain software on topic?

ErikAccording to this meta post questions in the general form of how do I do X are frowned upon because they tend to be brainstorming questions without a solid or clear answer. Conversely, this meta post states the questions asking for tutorials about achieving a certain effect get useful answers (a...

 
8:06 PM
@CAI whoops :P
 
CAI
8:30 PM
@ZachSaucier Its all for the greater good! :D
 
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A: How to deal with "What is this effect called and where can I find a tutorial?"

Zach SaucierI disagree with the e100 in general (specific cases it may be appropriate) because that could mean that we are editing in content, changing the nature of the question itself. Instead, I suggest we categorize questions differently: There are two types of classification: style identification an...

^^ Would appreciate feedback
 
CAI
I think you linked the wrong post? meta.graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/a/2949/52050
"As I just posted" links to a 3 yr old post by scott
 
yep, good catch
having too many tabs open with GD on them again :P
 
CAI
:)
all this discussion about what is on-topic and what isn't.. I genuinely think as long as some effort and research is shown it should be allowed
(as long as it isn't tech support or blatantly not design related that is)
"Can it be made from a font?" ...I don't even understand that question
 
in general that's what we're trying to do
@CAI none of us do, lol
 
CAI
8:45 PM
even with it quoted and referenced.. is that ok? graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/68737/…
I don't know
 
she deleted it
if they're giving full attribution it's fine
when it's not answering the question... that's another issue
 

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