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Journeyman Geek

00:34

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yay

Fun part was I had ram errors the first half dozen times I populated all the ram and I have no clue what actually eventually fixed it

6 hours later…

rahuldottech

06:47

My CS teacher believes that multiple return statements or using break/continue is bad practice

I couldn't disagree more. There are lots of times when they make completely sense and aren't confusing at all

1 hour later…

Ramhound

08:00

@PimpJuiceIT - FYI: superuser.com/review/suggested-edits/908063 was clearly copied content. Please be more attentive to what edits you approve :-)

Night; Onward to sweating my rear end off due to the fact I have no AC.

Does not help I have to work In like 4 hours ;-(

Journeyman Geek

hm

I am pretty certain I am going to get hit with a serial voting rollback

Burgi

morning

1 hour later…

bertieb

09:31

o/

Journeyman Geek

10:22

Hm. I am having windows update fail on my main pc

Trying to get it to the June release. Strange thing is everything looks fine

1 hour later…

Burgi

11:30

blame caching

Journeyman Geek

11:43

Apparently the build has issues on some systems

rahuldottech

12:23

I hate it when companies name themselves after common nouns. Case in point: privacy.com

DavidPostill

12:37

@rahuldottech or common verbs. Case in point google.com :)

Of course there are other examples.

Let's see how many I can think of.
ford
xerox
velcro
taser
polaroid
stetson

rahuldottech

@DavidPostill surely you see how that's different?

bertieb

Stetson's a verb?

Bwuh?

@rahuldottech I think David's having a wee laugh

That Google has become a common verb

djsmiley2k

@DavidPostill velcro isn't afaik

they strongly defend it

biro, hoover

rahuldottech

@bertieb I thought so too, but then he sent a list and I wasn't so sure anymore

bertieb

Heh, me too

The list is confusing in may ways ;-P

djsmiley2k

12:52

wait what, haha

rahuldottech

@dav in each case you've pointed out, the verb came after the company. I'm talking about the inverse.

bertieb

Ford is a verb, but hasn't become one because of FoMoCo (as far as I know)

djsmiley2k

and google isn't googl

or however it's actually spelt

rahuldottech

@bertieb I've never seen or heard it being used as one.

bertieb

I'm pretty sure the verb 'to ford' was around before the car company

djsmiley2k

12:53

forj

bertieb

@rahuldottech means to "to cross a body of running water in a vehicle"

could swear it applied to stagecoaches and wagons

pre motorised I mean

rahuldottech

Huh. TIL.

bertieb

Think it's after the noun, ford

djsmiley2k

> ford
/fɔːd/
Learn to pronounce
noun
noun: ford; plural noun: fords
1.
a shallow place in a river or stream allowing one to walk or drive across.
synonyms: crossing place, crossing, causeway; More
verb
verb: ford; 3rd person present: fords; past tense: forded; past participle: forded; gerund or present participle: fording
1.
(of a person or vehicle) cross (a river or stream) at a shallow place.
synonyms: cross, traverse; More
Origin

Old English, of West Germanic origin; related to Dutch voorde, also to fare.

yah

bertieb

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A ford sign pictured with a Ford :D

(credit to Telegraph)

I've not heard 'to polaroid' as a verb

as a generic noun, yeah

Maybe stetson is the same?

in that it's now a type of hat, rather than one made by the Stetson company

I dunno

Not sure why we're going full-on Sherlock on that list either ;-P

Me, I'm going back to trying to figure out what past-bertieb was doing when he wrote this bash code

It's very tempting to rewrite the little that there is in Python

Mmmmmm, Python... drools

Burgi

13:03

ford gets prepended to hamlets or villages where there was a convienent crossing

stamford

haverford

bertieb

Oh, cool

(but appended)

djsmiley2k

share the bash

and y u no comment the code

bertieb

@djsmiley2k I did, kinda

djsmiley2k

and then rewrote the code?

bertieb

It's just in quite a different style to what I would do now

ie it's crap

djsmiley2k

13:06

surely it worked at the time

bertieb

@djsmiley2k Ha, yeah

Relates to my first Q on here actually

Burgi

@bertieb sorry i'm tired

bertieb

@Burgi I figured that's what you meant :)

@djsmiley2k Yeah but it's been repurposed this way and that over the years

I actually have a python version

But it does something slightly different

djsmiley2k

arugh windows why you keep breaking my touchpad

DavidPostill

Yeah. My list is a mixture of nouns and verbs. So what?

djsmiley2k

13:10

wtf so i disable tap to click in the elan device manager

and it's still working D:

DavidPostill

They started off as nouns (as per @rahuldottech point) and became verbs later.

bertieb

Except for the ones that aren't verbs?

djsmiley2k

wow

the petition to stop closing parliment has gone from 80k sigs this morning to 250k now

bertieb

@djsmiley2k Ironically, parliament will close before it can be considered for debate

djsmiley2k

;)

so our new cat boxes arrived, and before I could put them together....

Burgi

13:16

why they didn't form a government of national unity 3 years ago idk....

djsmiley2k

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a cat in a box with a cat box in a box with a cat box

Burgi

seems legit

bertieb

Wah da fuu

DavidPostill

@Burgi "government of national unity" only formed during times of war or national emergency ... brexit is hardly a national emergency ... the last government of unity was during WW1 ...

bertieb

Why does this script correctly parse the file with a line commented out, but not with that line (which has nothing to do with processing) present?

Burgi

13:23

@DavidPostill you don't thing the risk of a no deal brexit is a national emergency?

bertieb

urge to rewrite in Python intensifies

DavidPostill

@Burgi No. Nobody knows what will happen. It's all fearmongering and guesswork.

Burgi

food, fuel and medicenes are all being stockpiled by local councils

bertieb

This makes so little sense

If I comment out a call to ffmpeg, the scripts reports what it should do correctly

If I actually call ffmpeg (as what was reported with echo), the variables are messed up

grumbles and opens shellcheck.net

> $ shellcheck myscript
No issues detected!

Funny, shellcheck, I disagree!

I think I'm going to have to post this on SO or programmers

Because I can't see wtf is going wrong

djsmiley2k

13:46

@bertieb the line before isn't terminated properly

bertieb

@djsmiley2k That was my thought, but all quotes are balanced

djsmiley2k

share the codez man

bertieb

heh

I'm writing up the SO post now

so I can give you teh codez

Hmmmmmmm

XKCD

14:04

The company started out exploiting a loophole in the law banning scooters. The city was mad at first, but then they noticed how much they were saving on street cleaning.

bertieb

0

Q: Why does calling ffmpeg mess up reading variables?

A few years ago when I was younger, more carefree, and, uh, less cognisant of good practice in writing shell scripts; I wrote a quick-and-dirty script to assist with a task I was facing: #!/bin/bash ...

enjoy the sh... oddy code ;-P

djsmiley2k

haha thanks for the callout ;D

why do I feel like you need

ffmpeg -loglevel quiet -hide_banner -y -ss "$(begin)" -i "$videofile" -to "$end" -c copy -avoid_negative_ts 1 "$hilightname.mkv"

or something

bertieb

14:27

-nostdin, it would seem

because ffmpeg will eat things as stdin, I guess?

Burgi

14:41

do you think the lady who recorded the voice samples on my headphones was canadian?

bertieb

and the while loop gets passed the file contents as stdin

Burgi

she's got an odd accent

bertieb

The ANC/ANR ones?

Send 'em up and I'll have a listen :D

bertieb

15:24

@djsmiley2k Credit where credit is due!

(missed that message before)

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bertieb

16:48

Hah

Having problem with something

Search for likely terms

Read thread

"hey this person writes their issue well"

Author: bertieb

Penny: dropped

rahuldottech

I don't understand people who put ketchup on their pizza.

bertieb

Some people like things that you don't?

I mean, there's the whole pineapple-is/isn't-an-acceptable-topping flamewar

Different people like different things :)

Also cripes automatedly cutting together video clips hasn't changed much in four-odd years

It's very straightforward if you don't want audio

But I do want audio

I think audio enhances videos

Which are otherwise just glorified gifs

bertieb's hands twitch in the direction of softwarerecs

rahuldottech

17:40

wtfutil.com

@Bob SHITTY ZOOM ^

bertieb

Oh ho ho

That looks handy for muh terminals

@rahuldottech Language!

Also how is that zoom bad?

The image changes size when I zoom in

rahuldottech

@bertieb zoom into web page. Can't see detail.

bertieb

@rahuldottech Which details?

rahuldottech

@bertieb In the image

bertieb

Haud on

rahuldottech

17:46

I'm a bit preoccupied atm, be back later

bertieb

Maybe I misunderstood the original gripe?

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djsmiley2k

18:09

zioom futher

it gets funny

bertieb

That's at 400%

500%:

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Seems a little horizontally squeezed

But I'm quite blind, and I don't browse at 500%

djsmiley2k

ah my window is narrower

bertieb

Fair dos

My npm install is horribly, horribly broken

I don't even know/remember why I have npm installed

Craaaaazy old Maurice...

djsmiley2k

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AWESOME

bertieb

18:55

Image not found

djsmiley2k

19:15

oh? shame

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DavidPostill

@djsmiley2k @djsmiley2k Starts a hurricane ...

😐

djsmiley2k

:D

I'm more amazed that ZoneMinder is still running without me taking any notice of it for weeks

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Burgi

20:46

@djsmiley2k wow

The Mandalorian | Official Trailer | Disney+ | Streaming Nov. 12

bertieb

21:15

WTF

> Bus error (core dumped)

Das not good

Yeaaa

Oh I see

/tmp was full

welp

@bwDraco /tmp was full

bwDraco

Wat. How is that even possible.

bertieb

(no need to delete, the suggestion was a reasonable one)

I'm using ffmpeg-concat to do some fancy concatenation of videos using GL transitions

It writes raw frame data

I changed the temp dir it uses, and it's hit 51GB and counting

this is for 4 short clips

Might... not use this in future

temptation to post on SR grows ever-stronger...

bwDraco

21:32

Just why would it crash with "bus error" and not "no space left on device" or even "aborted"?

bertieb

No idea

Maybe something at the OS level realised something was fudgey with temp

Even VLC was crashing the same way

some stuff in dmesg:

[ 2350.204136] audit: type=1701 audit(1567026706.383:51): auid=1000 uid=1000 gid=1000 ses=1 pid=8869 comm="vlc" exe="/usr/bin/vlc" sig=7 res=1

sig=7 being SIGBUS, I guess

bwDraco

21:54

Is /tmp backed only by virtual memory?

If it is, you may actually have exhausted your swap space(s).

That would provide a better explanation for the bus error.

Mind if I see the output of df on your system?

Michael Frank

22:13

The joys of parenthood and parenting.se...

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northerner

22:26

Hi.

I'm looking to upgrade RAM for the motherboard here asus.com/Motherboards/P8Z68V_LE/specifications

The specs state "4 x DIMM, Max. 32GB, DDR3 2200(O.C.)/2133(O.C.)/1866(O.C.)/1600/1333/1066 MHz Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory"

So what's the max speed if can get, 1600 or 2200?

I'm guessing OC stands for overclocked so the fastest stable is 1600MHz?

bwDraco

22:44

@northerner It's technically an overclock, as in you need an unlocked processor and it's not officially supported by Intel, but the board itself is validated to run memory at these speeds.

northerner

23:01

thanks

Any idea how to tell if processor is unlocked? It's Intel i5

Journeyman Geek

Check the model

On a system that age though I don't really think memory over clocking is worth it

bwDraco

23:19

Newer processors with 6 or more cores are more sensitive to memory performance but a system of this vintage is unlikely to see a meaningful performance advantage with faster RAM.

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