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djsmiley2k

12:00 AM

@MichaelFrank such is life. I am drunk. A hiaku this is not.

djsmiley2k

12:30 AM

anyone awake tho

Journeyman Geek

12:43 AM

Yup

It being daytime and me working...

rahuldottech

1:04 AM

@MichaelFrank I know. I'm trying to learn how to do that.

djsmiley2k

@JourneymanGeek sucks

@rahuldottech tis hard but if you don't learn, you'll just become old and bitter.

and i'm off to bed

Michael Frank

1:21 AM

@rahuldottech I think a good part of that will come from truly understanding why it annoys you.

My wife does this thing with a knife against the counter top.

Taps it there, but let's it sorta... bounce a few times before she taps it down again.

It's the most irritating noise in the world.

I'm not sure exactly why this annoys me so much, but I make an effort to not let it bug me... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

northerner

1:45 AM

I'm looking to add another (sata) SSD. I have some available SATA power cables but they seem to all be split off one main cable. I red on a form this is bad for SSDs? None of them are long enough to reach so would it work if I buy a SATA power extender? The PSU is Corsair Builder Series CX600 V2 Power Supply. Sorry for the vague question. Basically I'm asking, how do I connect a SATA SSD to this power supply?

Michael Frank

Sounds like you need a SATA power extender.

northerner

Is that safe to use on a SSD?

Is the situation I describe normal. Do most PSUs provide SATA power over a single cable and from there people normally use an extender?

I think whoever assembled this PC made a mess with the cables

Michael Frank

I'm not sure why it would be unsafe.

Journeyman Geek

2:16 AM

Uhm. Having multiple ports on one cable is normal for power

And SSDs need less power so whichever forum said that is full of garbage

rahuldottech

2:31 AM

@MichaelFrank emoji just come off as fake and unauthentic to me, for some reason

The only implementation that I've ever liked were the old Google blob ones, but they were killed off, so...

I think I prefer emoticons because there's no graphical aspect to them. Idk, they just seem more "genuine" to me, if that makes sense. Also might have something to do with the fact that emoticons are much more widely used in the tech circles that I've been a part of for the past half decade or so.

@northerner No. Power splitters and adapters are completely normal in PCs.

bwDraco

Power cables with multiple connectors for the drives are not unusual.

Journeyman Geek

3:31 AM

@rahuldottech you're reading too much into em

Michael Frank

4:18 AM

@rahuldottech YOU SUCK

Oh wait...

@rahuldottech YOU SUCK 😘

They have uses.

But you are probably adept enough with words and conveying your thoughts in text.

Michael Frank

4:54 AM

Weird... my \ key doesn't work through my Citrix session...

Nick

6:56 AM

So, today after finally reading through the specs, it turns out I have a 30Wh cap and 5.5 hours life on my lap bat.

Nick

7:20 AM

@JourneymanGeek thank you :) have a cuukie with m&m's.

djsmiley2k

9:47 AM

nom nom nom

uhoh

1:05 PM

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Q: What does Artemis need with an Aitken? How many petaflops does it take to land on the moon?

All of the top five answers to The Martian: Does it really take a supercomputer to calculate spaceflight maneuvers? are essentially "no, orbital mechanics isn't rocket science". Okay I have used some artistic license there, but these days even laptops do gigaflops, and that's not even counting th...

rahuldottech

1:20 PM

@JourneymanGeek I know, I know. I see them, and I don't like them

Eugh.

Ave

2:08 PM

@rahuldottech if you think that is bad you've not seen this yet

rahuldottech

@Ave the phone I'm using right now has these ones. Samsung. I suffer everyday.

Ave

never get a samsung.

bertieb

My last Sammy was a thin slidey thing

At least I think it was a Samsung

It's been quite a while

Ave

2:24 PM

this is the phone everyone had

I really wanted one but never got it

bertieb

Hmm, mine looked different

Maybe it was a Nokia?

Although "thin" and "Nokia"...

Also, I had an early HTC with a slide-out QWERTY keyboard

It ran some pieceacrap MS operating system IIRC

djsmiley2k

2:49 PM

Also, earthquakes in blackpool?

sure that's not just the fatties jumping in the sea?

@bertieb Matrix phone?

Hennes

3:04 PM

It is international doggie day.
Normally I do not care about sex, but isn;t that a bit direct?

SpartanDonut

3:19 PM

Random question to run by you folks, trying to figure out if I need to work with my ISP or if something else is likely the issue.

We've got two (really shitty) DSL lines in our house - 10Mbps down / 1Mbps up (Fastest we can get!). It's CenturyLink so the service in general is bad and internet drops randomly all the time, but on one of the lines and not the other I'll find my internet is suddenly stuck at 3 or 4 Mbps down instead of the full 10Mbps.

I can reboot my router and I get my full 10Mbps back. Of note I've got my modem set up in bridge mode and the router is doubling as the modem …

Thanks in advance. I'm generally pretty good about pinpointing issues but this is a weird one and a bit difficult to google on

bwDraco

Bufferbloat?

(at work right now, can't really look into this in detail)

bertieb

@djsmiley2k Near the fracking site

Probably totally unrelated

according to an industry spokesman

@djsmiley2k Actually maybe it was an LG...

djsmiley2k

3:41 PM

lg?

phone exploding?

bertieb

Nope

Still have it somewhere

SpartanDonut

3:56 PM

@bwDraco internet definitely degrades when maxed out but when this happens pings are normal so I don't think so? I'm not the best with dealing with bufferbloat though. Been something I've been fighting for ages with no real solution because I assume I just need more upload bandwidth

Probably falsely

Bufferbloat is something I've been fighting for ages I mean

rahuldottech

4:12 PM

@Ave yeah, I'm not a fan. This is a borrowed phone.

djsmiley2k

4:24 PM

;.,

bertieb

not sure if emoticon or new form of BF

djsmiley2k

@SpartanDonut the line is terrible, so over time the line degrades to 3-4Mbps

that's pretty normal behavour for adsl

djsmiley2k

4:37 PM

your ISP might be able to do something with the SNL settings, but i doubt you'll get anything good other than re-running the copper, or identifying if there's any interference from somewhere

Nick

4:57 PM

Should I get the game that requires the better processer on my lower end processor?

SpartanDonut

@djsmiley2k well golly gee willickers but thank you. Helps me understand that there is little I can do than jump ship ASAP (hoping the low orbit satellite pans out)

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I appreciate it much :D

djsmiley2k

languageeeeeeeeeeeeee

someone might flag it >_<

nice one.

Nick

Great Gatsby just called, they want their spiderman back.

djsmiley2k

do you have any kind of admin debug on your router?

stats etc

I'm interested in line attuenation, signal to noise ratio, and simply if there's any kind of error events occuring

Nick

I assume your router comes coupled with the industry standard oscilloscopic device.

djsmiley2k

5:03 PM

@Nick wtf are you on about

SpartanDonut

I have an Asus router if that helps. This is getting into territory I'm less famliar with. There is a system log but the troubleshooting tools they give you otherwise seem not great. Ping, Traceroute, Nslookup, Netstat.

Nick

:I you were saying some signal proc stuff. End-users would be given all that on the get-go if I didn't want a job, @djsmiley2k

djsmiley2k

nah, the log might hold something useful

SpartanDonut

What kind of key words should I search on? If I look for "error" I get several instances of this line in the last 1h 52m (and the issue has cropped up again already)

Feb 13 18:00:17 kernel: ERROR fwder_init: fwd_cpumap nvram not present, using default

Anything sensitive in these usually where I shouldn't just pastebin it?

rahuldottech

@djsmiley2k lmao. Gave up on understanding him years ago.

SpartanDonut

5:09 PM

plenty of

Aug 25 10:15:50 WAN Connection: Fail to connect with some issues.

some other messages with "fail" in it that I don't understand

SpartanDonut

5:31 PM

Also I guess I lied... I had to reboot the modem to fix it this time.

Usually I reboot both. I just happened to note that yesterday I rebooted just the router and it fixed it. So it's inconsistent.

djsmiley2k

5:43 PM

the modem itself likely has the debug info you'd need to diagnose any further

SpartanDonut

6:04 PM

So here is a mystery I never bothered to solve... any configuration I'm overlooking to be able to connect to the modem from the wifi (router)? or do I have to direct connect the modem? Obviously I can do the latter just thought I'd throw this question out there while I'm here lol

bertieb

6:14 PM

Connect to it in what sense?

telnet? HTTP?

something else entirely?

djsmiley2k

6:37 PM

@SpartanDonut who provided the modem, I'm guessing your ISP?

SpartanDonut

@bertieb like the web control panel as an example. Can't reach 10.0.0.1 or whatever it is on the 192.168 subnet (am I saying that right?)

@djsmiley2k so I bought the same model they loaned me for a month because they seemed to work fine. Their list of supported models is rather limited. I had bought a completely different model but it turns out they didn't have that technology in my area yet (still don't) so yeah... good times.

Full disclosure I'm a programmer trying to be networking smart. I know enough to be dangerous but am actually not great at all.

Technicolor C1100T is the modem I've got.
Asus RT-AC88U is the router.

bertieb

@SpartanDonut Sure, does it definitely have a web interface?

SpartanDonut

Yes. That's how I set it up to bridge to the router so that I never had to go into the web interface ever again lol

bertieb

Ah okay

djsmiley2k

7:22 PM

try 192.168.0.1

or 192.168.1.254

SpartanDonut

7:53 PM

No dice. That's alright though. That's the least of my concerns :D

Anyway I'll maybe get the motivation to move a desktop over there (or buy a USB ethernet dongle) and I might be able to get you those stats or perhaps even come to my own conclusions. If I don't show back up let it be known I really appreciate all that was said. Until next time!

XKCD

8:28 PM

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