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Q: Turning DisplayPort monitor off disables monitor completely

I have 2 monitors connected to a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660: Left is 1920x1080 via DVI (Samsung SyncMaster 2443BW) Right is 2560x1440 via DisplayPort and is set to Primary (Samsung SyncMaster SA850) I often leave my computer running overnight (working on long render job, doing backups, etc) so I ...

windows-7 display displayport

happens for non g-sync too

I've learned to live with it

12:13 AM

@Bob I have one better than that: when I leave my Razer Blade 15 idle all night and come back in the morning, I have to unplug and re-plug the mDP cable from my stuff-to-TB3 hub (CableCreations? hub that's USB-A, USB-C PD, mDP, HDMI and SD outputting to one USB-C output)

but when I suspend to RAM, no matter how long, it works when I come back. go figure

not sure which GPU's framebuffer handles it - I can't tell if it's being memcpy'ed with DXGI from one FB to another or if the FB of the rendering card == the FB of the card attached to the displayport

amazon.com/…

actually the proto is USB 3.1 Gen2, not TB3

amazon.com/Corsair-Elgato-Thunderbolt-Dock-Ethernet/dp/… now that's a TB3 dock

Journeyman Geek

12:33 AM

hm.

Helping my mom clean a room...

"20 year old hat, 25 year old hat... IS THAT A RIFLE SLING?"

Andrea Bocelli, Matteo Bocelli - Fall On Me

12:59 AM

running a phys box reboot on the box that runs Cavil; will bring him back up once it's done, but it's a server board so reboot takes a long damn time, as does OS boot because HDDs and many containers to start

1:11 AM

@allquixotic Same. Happens with the display coming out of my Intel iGP

Journeyman Geek

1:24 AM

hm

vivaldi has sync now

and webmail

Its... turning into opera ;p

@allquixotic ._.

I am offended good sir

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One MUST name desktops.

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Though there was a desktop named gnorrea in job -3

cause they hated windows ;p

My desktop is currently called Grindy

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@JourneymanGeek my hostname on my RB15 is "DESKTOP-RANDOMLETTERS" where RANDOMLETTERS is a 7 character alphanumeric string auto-generated by the default Windows 10 installation

Cause... there's a fan that makes a infrequent grinding noise.

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic !!!!!

my hostname on my desktop has been vk4rms for about 10 years and I haven't bothered to rename it despite changing hardware about 4 times

no particular reason; I think Windows gave me that one too

1:34 AM

@allquixotic Ha, It pains me when Windows 10 does that... can't they figure out it's a LAPTOP at least?

It's amusing when my bluetooth speaker attempts to pronounce the name though "Connected to DESKTOP-L7KOPTER" or something similar.

lol

@Dog 970

my bad

there's no spare room after all the heat dissipating equipment and battery in such a thin-n-light as the RB15, for anything 8-series (read: 2.5") :P so it has to be M.2 hehe

@allquixotic 860 comes as M.2 as well

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And even mSATA.

huh

(Which is why I was puzzling over whether to get the 860 or 970 Evo the other day, obviously the 860 is a lot slower but also a lot cheaper)

1:45 AM

the 860 M.2 is SATA though?

so 8 indicates SATA rather than form factor?

Yes

@allquixotic For the most part, yeah.

Samsung's naming convention actually started as the sum of the sequential read and sequential write speeds. Think "SSD 470".

Then "SSD 830".

the 970 Pro is really cool except horrific capacities

1 TB tops just isn't enough

@Dog This has almost the form factor of one chip of RAM. Really hard to believe this is an SSD.

@allquixotic Yeah, it's weird. With the 960 series, you had to get the Pro to get the top capacity, the Evo topped out at 1/2 that of the Pro. With the 970 it's the other way rond...

1:47 AM

@Nick Yeah. It was a bit of a shocker when I got my 960 PRO to build my desktop in October last year.

@MichaelFrank lol @ "Grindy"

Where did that name come from?

@Dog I think the 970 EVO is the best value per GB of NVMe right now, tho

@bwDraco Cause there's a fan that's grinding at the moment.

dunno about the value per GB for M.2 SATA or if they even offer 2 TB M.2 SATA

6 mins ago, by Dog

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I actually italicize PC names for a different reason than I italicize codenames. The former is because I tend to consider PC names to be akin to ship names, while the latter is because codenames aren't considered "official" for the purposes of marketing.

1:50 AM

@Dog o lol

The 1TB is $169.99, which is ridiculously cheap, the 2TB is ... more... but in the UK at least, about 30% cheaper than the 2TB 970 NVMe

@bwDraco In that case, officially my desktop is DESKTOP-8VDMP6R

right, so the cheapest per GB at high capacities that fits in an M.2 slot is the 860 EVO, and the cheapest NVMe per GB at high capacities is the 970 EVO

and the 970 Pro appears to be focused on performance and even betterer endurance

Is an NVMe SSD Worth it? | Samsung 960 PRO

18 mins ago, by allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek my hostname on my RB15 is "DESKTOP-RANDOMLETTERS" where RANDOMLETTERS is a 7 character alphanumeric string auto-generated by the default Windows 10 installation

1:51 AM

I never knew these existed till now. thnx

@Nick Well... my desktop uses the 960 PRO.

I also got some 4 TB SATA 2.5" 860 Pros for my desktop :P

some = multiple, yes

860 PRO? RAID?

@bwDraco Yes, we did discuss that. My laptop is referred to by my bluetooth speaker as DESKTOP-L7KOPTER when it attempts to pronounce those random letters

my desktop is finally 100% SSD, but hardware RAID card makes boot times still slow :P

1:52 AM

...maxCache, IIRC?

yup

@allquixotic Not in the UK, though our prices are rather distorted atm. Intel has a 2TB NVMe SSD that's 40% cheaper than the Samsung

well, no maxCache in use now :P

just RAID-0

Oh, okay, those 860s are the backing storage.

@allquixotic Fantastic. Glad you finally got the storage density you needed.

2 x 850 Pro 1 TB in RAID-0 and 2 x 860 Pro 4 TB in RAID-0, no maxCache no tiered storage

no spinning rust :D

maxCache in front of SSDs is incredibly wasteful

1:53 AM

You finally went all-flash.

My desktop was like that back when I had a proper flat (all my spinning rust sat in a 24-bay rackserver)

But just how much storage do you need?

I mean, I was boasting that my desktop was all-flash until now.

@Dog wow! I probably shoulda gotten that if it's cheaper here too

@bwDraco apparently about 8 TB to keep >50% free :P but I don't have nearly as many games installed on my laptop which is how I live with 2 TB

just like, two MMOs, that's it

@allquixotic Not sure it would be - the Samsung costs 52% more here than in the US

@allquixotic Does the Adaptec 81605ZQ actually support TRIM?

1:55 AM

@bwDraco pretty sure

!!info

huh.

geckodriver is running but firefox and the driver crashed... time to debug :S

Speaking of PC naming... you probably know this, but there's a long tradition of thematic names for computers, something that IINM originated from the academic computing world. I happen to be into dark and sinister stuff and so I adopted a demonic naming convention. Hence Astaroth.

Computer network naming scheme

In computing, naming schemes are often used for objects connected into computer networks. == Naming schemes in computing == Server naming is a common tradition. It makes it more convenient to refer to a machine by name than by its IP address. CIA named their servers after states.Server names may be named by their role or follow a common theme such as colors, countries, cities, planets, chemical element, scientists, etc. If servers are in multiple different geographical locations they may be named by closest airport code. Such as web-01, web-02, web-03, mail-01, db-01, db-02. Airport code example...

I should update geckodriver, firefox and the nodejs dependencies again :P

\\Astaroth\brian\Desktop

:P

See also RFC 1178.

> Naming groups of machines in a common way is very popular, and enhances communality while displaying depth of knowledge as well as imagination. A simple example is to use colors, such as "red" and "blue". Personality can be injected by choices such as "aqua" and "crimson".

Certain sets are finite, such as the seven dwarfs. When you order your first seven computers, keep in mind that you will probably get more next year. Colors will never run out.

Some more suggestions are: mythical places (e.g., Midgard, Styx, Paradise), mythical people (e.g., Procne, Tereus, Zeus), killers (e.g., C…

Mar 29 at 11:59, by bwDraco

This means it needs a computer name (yes, Astaroth worked), username and password to connect

(camera writes to \\Astaroth\camshare)

ok wat. for some reason my Cavil box doesn't have npm anymore :P

Wat.

> Names consisting entirely of hexadecimal digits, such as "beef", are also problematic, since they can be interpreted entirely as hexadecimal numbers as well as alphabetic strings.

Interesting...

(though I'd suppose modern systems aren't going to interpret it as 0xbeef... I hope.)

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(from Yahoo Mail web interface)

2:19 AM

!!info

That looks rather self-explanatory... but I suppose this is used by screen readers.

"Checkbox, not checked" sounds silly at first but when you realize that assistive technologies may not recognize the checkboxes or their states, it makes sense.

Yea man, we just had someone in yesterday talking to us about designing in rather than designing out.

@allquixotic noooooooooooo don't update the node dependencies

that breaks all the things

oooooooooooo

2:38 AM

$ ./run-headless.sh
Already logged in; skipping login { Error: A new session could not be created.
    at execute(<Function>, "http://localhost/master.js") - run-headless-webdriver.js:112:6
  details: undefined,
  message:
   'Expected browser binary location, but unable to find binary in default location, no \'moz:firefoxOptions.binary\' capability provided, and no binary flag set on the command line',
  type: 'RuntimeError',
  seleniumStack:
   { type: 'SessionNotCreatedException',
     message: 'A new session could not be created.',

hmm; but run-headless.config.json has exactly that

2:48 AM

@allquixotic Do you want me to take a look?

2:58 AM

I'm trying to use my knowledge of Selenium to fix

stumped so far

3:19 AM

@allquixotic i'll take a look in a min :P

\o/ login still works

hm, that's my old key

@Dog check pings. The yagi arrived. It's AMAZING

@Bob check out ~/dev/debug-headless.sh and the log files it generates

the error is coming from geckodriver O.o

Sorry, not an expert here.

@allquixotic I got distracted by work

bbiab (maybe 30mins)

> >I took reputation hits arguing with the mods about this very thing...

Turns out, the mods don't believe that Stack Overflow is supposed to be a place to get help. It's apparently supposed to be like... a look up resource or something. A programming wiki in Q&A format, if you will.

The idea is that you're supposed to spend a LOT of time looking up and trying possible solutions on your own, and then when you can't figure it out, you need to write up your question as if it's a short college paper describing the problem and all of the things that don't solve your problem, and citing your s…

What people on Reddit say about SO

Journeyman Geek

3:29 AM

ooh actually, that's actually pretty accurate

other than the last bit

reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/9j35u8/comment/e6pddt4

Journeyman Geek

there's quite literally nothing that we've been told about changing how we mod things.

Actually? Its been the opposite.

There's some unhappiness sure - but not that way

@JourneymanGeek but high-rep users without a diamond can often be perceived by newbies as "mods"

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic see...

THATS where were're failing newbies

especially those with VTC or gold badges

Journeyman Geek

3:34 AM

Stuff like the new question templates teaches them how to work with us.

But yanno

SE is strange and different in so many ways ._.

3:53 AM

@JourneymanGeek @allquixotic matrix?

4:18 AM

@Bob sure

4 hours later…

7:58 AM

morning

8:32 AM

@Ramhound i was just teasing :)

1 hour later…

10:01 AM

Gg

10:42 AM

just had another recruiter asking for a reference for our missing dev

when will he learn?

11:28 AM

lol

'Warning, this guy disappears' lol

Journeyman Geek

@djsmiley2k who? :P

'I thought he was dead'

:D

Hmmm

I may of added too much Franks to my spicyness.

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I don't even

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dear news, this is why you're dying

11:55 AM

huh; vmware workstation pro 15 is now out, and it supports virtualized NVMe for apparently lower I/O overhead

12:07 PM

BROKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

@rahuldottech too much smash?

i'm brokeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen

and also

brokeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

@JourneymanGeek GIMME A NAME FOR MY SERVER

burt?

ernie

bigbird

cookiemonster

Jeff

Roboto

Slytherine

Hexaflouride

VidyaGaemz

Barakomama

12:22 PM

I have a hardwarerec

I'm willing to go beyond the Bluetooth ecosystem, but I want a headset that is comfortable, relatively lightweight, good for music listening, has a high quality mic, wireless, at least 15h of battery life, works with simultaneous stereo playback and mic capture (so Bluetooth is out), and at worst has a USB dongle -- no "base station" nonsense

something like a Steelseries H Wireless (now Arctis Pro?) but a lot smaller cans, a much better mic, and no retarded base station that sits on your desk

Journeyman Geek

@rahuldottech you don't need a name. You need a theme.

@JourneymanGeek server (?)

Journeyman Geek

How about chillis. You can call it habenero

Cause deities is taken

@JourneymanGeek Great. Habenero.

amazon.com/Logitech-ClearChat-Wireless-USB-Headset/dp/…

looking for something about 12+ years newer than that (that item was released in 2003) -- 10m range and 7h battery - awful specs

12:27 PM

you should name your servers after slang words for people's unmentionables

@Burgi runway

12:39 PM

oh shit - YES!! I found em! amazon.com/… Avantree! <3

@djsmiley2k BBC have gotten a lot worse in last 6-12 months

I reckon there's been a directive to "get moar clickz"

I have a drinking game called "spot the 'this'"

> Why 27 hikers helped this woman up a mountain

afternoon

> Watch as this seal slaps a man with an octopus

> Is this one of the world's most beautiful airports?

has anyone of you used passbolt ?

That style of writing can GDIAF

12:46 PM

@bertieb Clickbait?

Yup

Oh right I see, all contain this too

I should read whole page before replying to single lines that caught my eye :D

:P

@allquixotic ps4 support.... I wonder if they can do what I do with my PC tho

which is ps4 audio goes to PC

chat goes directly to headset? :/

> My head is pea sized and they fit perfectly and comfortably.
By Fiona on 27 June 2018

Its....

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did anyone see this one old man ranting?

> Donald Trump's very, very large brain

> Beijing has denied interfering, and is yet to comment on Mr Trump's brainpower.

12:53 PM

nervous laughter

Meanwhile in Ireland...

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@JourneymanGeek

Anyone had any issues with OpenVPN saying every packet has a bad ID? (Authenticate/Decrypt packet error: bad packet ID)

I've seen people having problems with MTU in extreme cases (ie give me the torrentz), but I can't even connect to a fresh install

May post a question on it, just throwing it out in case someone else has come across it :)

@rahuldottech Good god what is that black pox on your palmrest

is that plastic corrosion?!?!

@allquixotic paint rubbed off

This is legit a 2006-era laptop a friend gave to me

1:07 PM

wow dude

Well, he gave me two

I hope your main one is newer :S

I put all the ram in one PC and set it up as a server

also it's misspelled

The habanero (; Spanish: [aβaˈneɾo] ( listen)) is a hot variety of chili pepper. Unripe habaneros are green, and they color as they mature. The most common color variants are orange and red, but the fruit may also be white, brown, yellow, green, or purple. Typically, a ripe habanero is 2–6 cm (0.8–2.4 in) long. Habanero chilis are very hot, rated 100,000–350,000 on the Scoville scale. The habanero's heat, flavor and floral aroma make it a popular ingredient in hot sauces and other spicy foods. == Name == The name indicates something or someone from La Habana (Havana). In English, it is sometimes...

@allquixotic SHIT

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@allquixotic my main ^

1:09 PM

@rahuldottech ok, looks like it has USB 3.0 at least

@allquixotic happens a lot on cheaper laptops

@allquixotic 2xUSB3, gtx860M 4gb, i7-4770

Recently upgraded to SSD

eh, it's fine :P

I had this sinking suspicion that your GPU was an Intel i915 IGP designed for 1024x768 made in 2006

@allquixotic I added <signature misspelling> to the note above "habenero"

@allquixotic It was supposed to be a good machine back in 2015, when I got it

@JourneymanGeek so many times over :P

1:12 PM

but shipping a laptop to Bhutan would probably take about 6 years and it would arrive with Bhutanese propagandaOS loaded onto it

@JourneymanGeek and I both have Phoebes. @bertieb and I both have Arkes :P

@allquixotic Nahh, bhutan doesn't do propaganda

nods

@allquixotic You know I'm in Delhi right now, right?

funny; I started naming my containers and my host on OVH after the colonies of Battlestar Galactica; the physical is kobol

1:13 PM

arke's the Matrix homeserver

@rahuldottech no, I didn't grok that!

@allquixotic ... you thought I was still in bhutan?

but I couldn't get out of the habit of making my anything-that-others-dont-need-access-to everything-container "gp" (general purpose) for ease of typing

@bertieb because messenger? :P

same reason my znc server's named arke

matrix got erato cause arke was taken

@Bob Probably, I trust past!bertieb got the name thematically close :D

1:14 PM

and we might've had this conversation before :P

Almost certainly

They say the memory's the first thing to go

I'm looking to get ECC installed in my brain

@allquixotic I have like 6 test containers that everything gets dumped on

they were meant to be use-and-dispose containers but at least half of them now have stuff I want to keep -_-

# lxc list
+-----------+---------+------------------------------+------+------------+-----------+
|   NAME    |  STATE  |             IPV4             | IPV6 |    TYPE    | SNAPSHOTS |
+-----------+---------+------------------------------+------+------------+-----------+
| cavil     | RUNNING |  (eth0)                      |      | PERSISTENT |           |
+-----------+---------+------------------------------+------+------------+-----------+
| che       | STOPPED |                              |      | PERSISTENT |           |

I've got all but two DomUs moved off to make space for the Docker one

I like to keep them short

you can probably guess what ra is for :P (synapse)

1:27 PM

Can Mac connect to openvpn natively, or does it still need a client?

(I suspect the latter)

I don't know of any OS that can "natively" connect to OpenVPN

OpenVPN is primarily a userspace tool based on the program ... openvpn (which depends on a tun/tap interface in the kernel)

Ah, okay

tun/tap is generic and not at all specific to OpenVPN but any OS that has a tun/tap compatible interface could pretty easily be coded to work with OpenVPN, hence why it works on Windows/MacOS/Linux/Solaris/BSD

The network configuration dealie lists VPN as a connection type (I think Cisco is one of the options? vague recollections of using it for uni)

somebody ported the tun/tap interface to each of those OSes as a kernel module

1:32 PM

Makes sense, cheers :)

the "built-in" VPNs on Windows and MacOS are usually PPTP and possibly IPSEC; but since OpenVPN is an open source project, the only OSes that really "bundle" it in such a way would be Linux desktops that integrate it into NetworkManager

though Microsoft surprised us all with OpenSSH support, so maybe Windows v1810 will have OpenVPN

at this point Apple would be more likely to introduce their own proprietary VPN solution than adopt OpenVPN :P Microsoft might do it though

2012+ Microsoft seems to go "Okay, what open source tools out there are awesome that developers use all the time and would love to have official support for so the install/support is less arduous? Okay, SSH, Linux on top of Windows without virtualization, ..." and then starts to support those things as and when they have time

and you can't really do much with AWS without some kind of a VPN into the private network so I imagine OpenVPN might be on their radar

Heh

Reminds me of that xkcd (other security disclosures)

But in reverse

@Albin i think your answer is fine

(Ubuntu is just Vista with a custom skin)

I thought there was a more recent one that went the other way ('Windows 8.1/10 is just KDE with a custom skin', but hey ho

They say that memory is the first thing to go

Something something something ECC

1:50 PM

Apology for disturbing! My question: If I force update a git commit in GitHub, can anyone get my very previous commit through git clone? (I know SHA1 is visible).

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@Biswapriyo afaik all git commits are public

But I don't use git

you should

@Burgi I know, I will, soon

@Biswapriyo If you have a public github repo with a commit that you don't want to be there (sensitive data etc), you must assume that someone already has that commit and will keep it forever and use it to its maximum advantage against you

so you should take whatever steps are necessary to prevent that (change passwords/keys, etc.)

you can "rewrite history" on your github repo to completely remove all evidence of a commit from the commit history, but anyone with an earlier copy of your repo before you made that change will still have it; you can't go onto the hard drive and force delete the information they already obtained

the most you can do is prevent future cloners from seeing that commit

a git revert will not rewrite history however

1:57 PM

@Blogbot thats over 350,000 years

@Burgi you mean my answer to this question right? Do you think the first option will work?

i'm not familiar with the technology but the way you have laid out the options and detail is fine

i think you are overthinking a lot of your interactions

@rahuldottech someone as talented as you doesn't know git? huh.

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