Root Access

12:00 AM

@bertieb I think we can deal with a little sarcasm

@Bob Ah. I thought you never rooted the S7... or was that the Sony?

I just bought myself an annual sub, because I didn't have the patience to wait 3 hours for a firmware download. Even if I'd been putting off updating for at least 6 months anyway

Nick

mhh... what should i study today?

Cats.

!!/caaaat

12:07 AM

The art of disguise. Your assignment today is to sneak into a neo Nazis convention or meeting and slip laxitive into the punch.

RegularGDPR

Disguising oneself as a laxative? Really?

Journeyman Geek

Better that than a suppository

Bob

@RegularGDPR Rooted the S7, not the S9, not the Sony

RegularGDPR

@Bob Did you ever update to Oreo?

Bob

@RegularGDPR No, the S7 is still on Nougat

RegularGDPR

12:47 AM

Lol. After updating my firmware my phone refuses to boot without root

bwDraco

So... my new laptop seems to have a mushy key on the keyboard. Although it generally registers reliably, is it likely to fail? Should I send it in?

(already exchanged it once; would rather not exchange it a second time)

Bob

@RegularGDPR dm-verity shenanigans?

@bwDraco If you don't like it, and your old one didn't have that problem, replace it.

Incidentally, thanks for validating my decision to never buy HP again.

bwDraco

I'm leaning towards continuing to use it for the next few months and seeing if the problem worsens. If it does, it's going to be serviced.

It's not broken per se.

The rest of the laptop is fine.

The key in question is the "A" key.

Bob

@bwDraco IMO you're better off exchanging for a unit that's good out of the box (asuming HP even makes one...)

If it fails down the track, replacing the keyboard is likely to cause other damage.

Also, I've seen warranty service refused on "lost" keys.

bwDraco

Um, "lost"?

Bob

1:00 AM

(granted, that was Toshiba, but I don't have high hopes for HP there)

bwDraco

As in the key physically detached from the keyboard?

Bob

@bwDraco Keys fell off. Multiple keys, over the course of months. Poorly designed keyboard had the scissor switches wearing out on the retaining legs.

bwDraco

Wat.

Bob

That was my brother's Toshiba convertible.

RegularGDPR

@Bob Yup

Bob

1:01 AM

Otherwise quite a nice machine, but ... the keys fell off.

RegularGDPR

I've been running dm-verity and force-encrypt disabled since, well, they became the recommended settings for cf-auto-root

bwDraco

I mean, I really, really like this system otherwise.

Bob

That happened a few years in (within the 3 year warranty period though)

RegularGDPR

It was working fine without before, but meh. Was staying in hostels at the time so not exactly easy to deal with contingencies if it broke

Bob

@RegularGDPR Oh yea, cf/su is discontinued now yea?

I think the recommended solution is now Magisk

Another reason I didn't root the S9. Didn't feel like figuring out/trusting a non-CF root when I didn't really need it.

RegularGDPR

1:03 AM

Magisk is apparently good if you want deep hiding of root. But sounded complicated to set up (much like Xposed)

Bob

@RegularGDPR Yea, the reason my S7 stayed on an old Nougat was cause Marshmallow to Nougat ended up blowing away my data. Didn't want to deal with that mess just to go Oreo.

RegularGDPR

@Bob Sorta, the website and original versions are discontinued, there's a new website that you can custom configure images from

Bob

Which incidentally means it was vulnerable to that BT issue for a few months. Blech.

RegularGDPR

Bob

@RegularGDPR The new website is also discontinued - CF is leaving for good.

@RegularGDPR xda-developers.com/chainfire-ending-development-root-apps

RegularGDPR

1:04 AM

If only any of this shit actually worked. Why is VoLTE on Android such a giant fustercluck?! And how is it iOS is years ahead of Android on some basic functionality like... phone calls

@Bob :-o

Well at least the website's still working (desktop.firmware.mobi) and up-to-date on S7 firmwares and kernels

Bob

Hm. idk

Maybe he handed it over to someone else?

RegularGDPR

Hmm seems you're right, UK firmware is just old. Nothing for the S9 and no S7 updates past April 2018.

bwDraco

!!s/blowing away/eating/

ChatBot John Cavil

@bwDraco @RegularGDPR Yea, the reason my S7 stayed on an old Nougat was cause Marshmallow to Nougat ended up eating my data. Didn't want to deal with that mess just to go Oreo. (source)

bwDraco

omnomnom

RegularGDPR

1:13 AM

D'oh. Obviously something as simple as flashing a different CSC requires a full wipe, because repartitioning for a different sized file -_-

... but booting up with a corrupted/null CSC partition works fine? :-0

Bleh. If the newer phones weren't even worse with the lockdowns I'd consider getting one... Apparently my preferred operator's planned upgrades involve moving to 5-carrier CA...

bwDraco

1:36 AM

How is the phone going to function on any network with a null IMEI?

Journeyman Geek

Magic!

bwDraco

Apr 15 '17 at 0:29, by Dog

In the old days it was trivially easy to reprogram (or accidentally erase) your IMEI number and I accidentally made my phones IMEI into 000000000000...etc. once. All the networks accepted it.

rofl

Bob

@RegularGDPR Not with OXM, supposedly :P

RegularGDPR

2:06 AM

@Bob Wait, what vulnerability was that?

bwDraco

BlueBorne (security vulnerability)

BlueBorne is a generic term for several security vulnerabilities affecting electronic devices involving various Bluetooth implementations in Android, iOS, Linux and Windows. Many devices are affected, including laptops, smart cars, smartphones and wearable gadgets. The vulnerabilities were first reported by Armis, an IoT security firm, on September 12, 2017. According to Armis, "The BlueBorne attack vector can potentially affect all devices with Bluetooth capabilities, estimated at over 8.2 billion devices today [2017]." == History == The BlueBorne security vulnerabilities were first reported...

Apr 19 '17 at 21:51, by Michael Frank

EVERYTHING IS NORMAL.

Bob

1 min ago, by bwDraco

BlueBorne (security vulnerability)

BlueBorne is a generic term for several security vulnerabilities affecting electronic devices involving various Bluetooth implementations in Android, iOS, Linux and Windows. Many devices are affected, including laptops, smart cars, smartphones and wearable gadgets. The vulnerabilities were first reported by Armis, an IoT security firm, on September 12, 2017. According to Armis, "The BlueBorne attack vector can potentially affect all devices with Bluetooth capabilities, estimated at over 8.2 billion devices today [2017]." == History == The BlueBorne security vulnerabilities were first reported...

Incidentally we have a new one now: kb.cert.org/vuls/id/304725

Not a RCE but still looks pretty bad.

RegularGDPR

@Bob I wonder how I managed to never hear of that

Hmm. So changing my CSC from within Android resulted in an unscheduled factory reset of my phone, and still no VoLTE

Bob

2:27 AM

@RegularGDPR Yea that's expected. It should warn you before the reset though.

(For some reason my S9 doesn't let me change CSC :( )

RegularGDPR

Nah, no warning.

Might as well go the whole hog and install the full operator specific firmware I guess

It's possible it's just my SIM that doesn't support it since I'm on a data-only SIM...

Bob

Are you making up those stories to hoard rep points? Because it's somehow hard to believe for me that all of your family members are occupied primarily on generating problems on air travel... — Rg7x gW6a cQ3g 19 hours ago

@RegularGDPR With OXM firmware on S8/9 there isn't operator-specific firmware anymore if your operator falls under OXM.

RegularGDPR

It's odd cause O2 ambiguously implies you don't need operator specific firmware to have VoLTE working

Bob

The CSCs still exist, they're just all bundled up in one firmware.

The checksum is identical iirc.

RegularGDPR

@Bob I'd rather have that tbh

I guess they finally put enough storage in the phone by default to store all the operators' custom bloat...

Journeyman Geek

2:33 AM

@RegularGDPR VoLTE is a crapshoot

works on my jelly, dosen't work on my OP5T

despite people constantly asking for support for it on the latter...

RegularGDPR

!!s/crapshoot/crapshoot on android/

ChatBot John Cavil

@RegularGDPR @RegularGDPR VoLTE is a crapshoot on android (source)

RegularGDPR

2 hours ago, by RegularGDPR

If only any of this shit actually worked. Why is VoLTE on Android such a giant fustercluck?! And how is it iOS is years ahead of Android on some basic functionality like... phone calls

Journeyman Geek

@RegularGDPR cause there's one apple phone maker

RegularGDPR

Also networks barring you from using long range LTE bands unless your phone is signed on to VoLTE

Journeyman Geek

2:35 AM

also, my ISP is slightly full of... it...

RegularGDPR

@JourneymanGeek Not one Android phone maker supports VoLTE across multiple operators without operator-specific firmware

I suspect it's more the case that Apple has more power to tell the operators to f*** off if they demand customized concessions.

Same as the reasons behind why OS and security updates are a crapshoot on Android.

Bob

@RegularGDPR It's supposed to prompt you to switch (with reset) when you insert a recognised (covered) SIM.

Journeyman Geek

My ~~ISP~~ telco also has Vowifi... on iphones

RegularGDPR

@Bob Interesting. Sony has something similar (when you reboot with a new SIM it prompts you "Your phone will be rebooted [again] to be optimized for your network provider")

As for need for resets, gtfo.

Journeyman Geek

my mom's oppo does that

RegularGDPR

2:38 AM

Seriously why can't they just standardize VoLTE settings in the same way GPRS APN settings were standardised. You don't need to wipe your bloody phone to change the APN

Journeyman Geek

My OP just... takes the sim card and works

RegularGDPR

Ironically, some phones that have no operator specific firmware at all (because they are too small or niche to have been picked up by any operators here), just work on several operators. Not sure how... but it just goes.

Journeyman Geek

@RegularGDPR like the jelly ;p

RegularGDPR

3:09 AM

Full operator firmware, no VoLTE. Probably lack of support on my SIM. Oddly enough, the full operator firmware lacks the built-in operator IMS settings present on the unbranded firmware...

Dafuq

So my O2 firmware hides the WiFi and 4G calling options when using an O2 SIM card but shows them when using a Vodafone SIM card. facepalm

I mean there's crapshoot, and then there's what the genuine fuck.

Bob

3:45 AM

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RegularGDPR

Lol

No working with my Vodafone sim and Vodafone firmware either, but the probably because it thought it would be smart to default to the Vodafone D2 Germany CSC

Fuck you Samsung

Bob

@RegularGDPR o_O

RegularGDPR

Funny enough the thing that most made me notice was the fact it said "LTE" next to the signal bars instead of 4G

On the plus side, with the UK firmware it does just work seamlessly! Woohoo just made my first 4G to 4G HD Voice over LTE call!

On the downside, there's no indicator or toggle for it

And also the Vodafone firmware is bloated and laggy as hell

Bob

4:00 AM

@RegularGDPR \o/

I've never used VoLTE and probably never will

RegularGDPR

@Bob Lol

I'm more surprised cross-network HD calling is working now, they made a big fuss about when they launched it, but it was same-operator only and everybody whinged.

Tbh the only reason I want VoLTE working is because a) O2 withdrew the app-based UMA, and b) The 2G/3G reselection around here is so abysmal that I generally lock my phone to 4G only unless I need to make a call

Also somewhat surprised VoLTE <=> VoLTE worked seamlessly, as it used to not work for incoming calls

Bob

@RegularGDPR I don't plan to buy carrier phones, and hacking non-carrier into working is looking like a huge pain. Probably doable on the S7 but I can't even get the unbranded XSA firmware on this S9.

I suppose in theory AU stock would work but $$$ and no dual-SIM.

Heck. I'd be happy to pay the $$$ if I could get a local model with dual-SIM.

Even the Note8 was only single-SIM.

RegularGDPR

@Bob It's beginning to work on non-carrier phones aside from iPhones - the latest Sony XZ1 series supports VoLTE on non-carrier versions, but only on certain carriers. All UK carriers claim to be "working on" enabling it on non-carrier-handsets.

Basically the current giant fustercluck will end someday. Ideally with Google implementing a robust, built-in VoLTE layer in Android instead of each manufacturer implementing their own.

OhooohooOOOhh. Vodafone's VoLTE works when the phone is locked to 4G only. (EE, the network who had the first and most widely available VoLTE in this country, barrs VoLTE when in LTE only mode. So I have use a hack that puts the phone in 3G/4G mode, but then disable the 3G2100 band)

Right, so after fucking about with that for the last few hours I'm gonna restore my old firmware and data with TWRP and go to sleep

RegularGDPR

5:00 AM

Man I love TWRP. 4 minutes and it's restored everything, except my phone's ability to actually phone. Quick reflash of the modem sorted that, but I did have to get back out of bed to do it.

Bleh, Samsung used to be so open. Heck, that's how the Galaxy series got popular in the first place.

Bob

5:21 AM

@RegularGDPR To be fair, they still do have unlockable bootloaders without having to register for shit or buying a special European model.

*looks at LG and Xiaomi*

RegularGDPR

5:38 AM

@Bob unlocked bootloaders don't count for much if there's nothing left you can actually do with it.

djsmiley2k

7:22 AM

@RegularGDPR because they are held right?

Andy K

morning

djsmiley2k

8:06 AM

sup @AndyK

Andy K

@djsmiley2k saving my swimming pool

djsmiley2k

@AndyK from?

Andy K

@djsmiley2k some weird algua

the pool turned green

djsmiley2k

Ah

more chlorine?

Andy K

@djsmiley2k bromine shock

it is effective

Burgi

8:11 AM

morning

djsmiley2k

sup @Burgi

Andy K

yesterday

today after the bromine shock

Burgi

that is a weird colour

and this is why you don't drink the water on the continent people! ;)

djsmiley2k

;D

@AndyK that's still supprisingly healthy looking...

Tho the 'today' image looks like something far healthier for swimming in ! :D

Andy K

9:04 AM

@djsmiley2k indeed I'm going to swim today

djsmiley2k

9:32 AM

@AndyK Now I'm jelly! :P

Burgi

its too fracking hot

djsmiley2k

9:45 AM

yup

air con isn't enough anymore

Burgi

10:00 AM

what is the plural of accreditation?

djsmiley2k

accreditation?

accreditations?

> noun: accreditation; plural noun: accreditations

Burgi

accreditations keeps getting spellchecked

djsmiley2k

So says the googles.

Burgi

thanks

djsmiley2k

> verb: google; 3rd person present: googles; past tense: googled; past participle: googled; gerund or present participle: googling

allquixotic

10:15 AM

!!define djsmiley2k

ChatBot John Cavil

@allquixotic My pocket dictionary just isn't good enough for you.

3

Burgi

rofl

djsmiley2k

lol

djsmiley2k

10:47 AM

man

dying in a wild fire :/

The BBC byline has hit me right in the feels

and I don't often let my feels get hit :<

Michael Frank

11:03 AM

@djsmiley2k I got curious... then I got feels. :|

djsmiley2k

Yah :(

Burgi

12:42 PM

HA! as predicted, they've dropped a million projects on us all at once

djsmiley2k

1:35 PM

lol

Hennes

1:52 PM

Wheee. Back

New modem. New ISP.

And 2 hours trying to figure out why things did not work

Still no idea why, but now that I plugged the cable into the other network port (and enabled that) it suddenly works.

bwDraco

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ChatBot John Cavil

@bwDraco My pocket dictionary just isn't good enough for you.

bwDraco

!!/define █̛̜̤̤̦̦̣̟͆̾ͣ█̧͇͓̩̍̏ͅ█̨̥̣̗ͪ͛ͫ͂̔̎ͪ█̵̢͙̟̫̮̻̣̻̣̪̆█̰̫͍̮̼͖͆͢█͔̤̮̭̤̼͊̉̅͟͜█̭͎̦̖͌ͦͤ̐̂̇̉͟͝‌‌̯͕̤ͅ█̪ͥͫ̍̎́█̵̨͕̻͈̳̪͓͚̌̓̄͜█̱̠̮̃͑ͬͯ̕█̢̠̜͚̭̣̼̇͋̑█̟̠̻͙͉̙ͧ̇͗ͬ͜͝█̬̩̤̱̬̻̮ͨ̍͊́̌ͮ̎̌͜█̑ͬ̅‌̉ͫ‌̷̨̣̰̦̱ͮ█̛̜̤̤̦̦̣̟͆̾ͣ█̧͇͓̩̍̏ͅ█̨̥̣̗ͪ͛ͫ͂̔̎ͪ█̵̢͙̟̫̮̻̣̻̣̪̆█̰̫͍̮̼͖͆͢█͔̤̮̭̤̼͊̉̅͟͜█͌ͦͤ‌̭͎̦̖̐̂̇̉͟͝‌̯͕̤ͅ█̪ͥͫ̍̎́█̵̨͕̻͈̳̪͓͚̌̓̄͜█̱̠̮̃͑ͬͯ̕█̢̠̜͚̭̣̼̇͋̑█̟̠̻͙͉̙ͧ̇͗ͬ͜͝█̬ͨ̍͊́̌ͮ̎̌͜‌̩̤̱̬̻̮█̑ͬ̅̉ͫ‌̷̨̣̰̦̱ͮ█̛̜̤̤̦̦̣̟͆̾ͣ█̧͇͓̩̍̏ͅ█̨̥̣̗ͪ͛ͫ͂̔̎ͪ█̵̢͙̟̫̮̻̣̻̣̪̆█̰̫͍̮̼͖͆͢█͊̉̅͟͜‌͔̤̮̭̤̼█̭͎̦̖͌ͦͤ̐̂̇̉͟͝‌̯͕̤ͅ█̪ͥͫ̍̎́█̵̨͕̻͈̳̪͓͚̌̓̄͜█̱̠̮̃͑ͬͯ̕█̢̠̜͚̭̣̼̇͋̑█̟̠̻͙͉̙ͧ̇͗ͬ͜͝

ChatBot John Cavil

@bwDraco No definition found.

bwDraco

lol

allquixotic

2:21 PM

!! s/HA!//

ChatBot John Cavil

@allquixotic as predicted, they've dropped a million projects on us all at once (source)

allquixotic

SE apparently does that automatically 0_0

does what?

2:55 PM

!! Kittens

@kitten_lindy!

when did mysql jump to version 8?

RegularGDPR

I thought mysql became mariadb

Hennes

2:57 PM

Biggest question. When will they jump to version $decently_working

Burgi

@RegularGDPR mariadb is only a fork

Journeyman Geek

8

Q: Welcome Stack Overflow Valued Associate #599, Catherine Kuck AKA Catija!

We're extremely pleased to announce that Catherine Kuck (most of you know her as Catija) started yesterday on our Community Growth team as a Community Manager. As soon as she's completed a small mountain of paperwork, she's going to be spending the bulk of her time doing ... pretty much exactly w...

Excellent choice I might add.

Also, the new team seems like an about damned time thing

RegularGDPR

3:18 PM

@Burgi Well there's a forking surprise

Grr what's with all the ridiculous "This product contains nicotine" warning labels on products that contain no nicotine whatsoever, but instead just block out important parts of the product label so I can't read what it actually does contain

djsmiley2k

lol

Journeyman Geek

peel it off?

google?

djsmiley2k

I wouldn't be trusting any product which claims to contain niccotine and infact doesn't.

RegularGDPR

@JourneymanGeek It's excessively sticky. And the problem is trying to figure out if it's the gunoe

gimped EU version or the regular non-EU version, which is often mis-publicised on the product listing

Every e-cigarette product I've come across says it. At least some have the vaguely sane enhancement of saying "This product contains nicotine*

* When used with nicotine containing e-liquids"

djsmiley2k

Thats like saying 'This car contains petrol*

*When you put petrol in it"

or the best one

"This cat contains unlimited amounts of explosive anger*

*If you rub his tummy"

RegularGDPR

3:32 PM

"may contain traces of nuts" on a pack of peanuts

Bob

@RegularGDPR o rly

djsmiley2k

Well it's true, peanuts are peas.

RegularGDPR

Bob

wait, we're not supposed to use sarcasm anymore :P

2

Ben N

!!tell 45817070 flagged

ChatBot John Cavil

3:37 PM

RegularGDPR

Meanwhile a literal empty tank I bought which you could put whatever you want in, has two labels, front and back, saying unconditionally this product definitely contains nicotine.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob mod's descresion

RegularGDPR

No it contains steel, air, glass, and plastic.

Journeyman Geek

that's actually a clever part of the COC 2.0

RegularGDPR

I could put petrol in it, yet it contains nicotine which is addictive but no petroleum which is highly flammable

Bob

3:39 PM

@RegularGDPR What if they rinsed it with nicotine before selling it?

RegularGDPR

It's like having a warning on all computers stuck with glue to the middle of the display saying "Warning this product contains computer games, which are a highly addictive substance"

Bob

Anyway it's pretty standard for warning labels for the intended contents.

e.g. if you go buy an empty petrol container it'll likely have flammable liquid warnings on it

RegularGDPR

@Bob That's on the petrol container though, not the box it came in.

Bob

@RegularGDPR Oh, the box. Yea that's dumb.

Ben N

@RegularGDPR That's kind of true thanks to Windows 10 though :p

Bob

3:40 PM

@BenN Have you never played Solitaire?

Ben N

Oh I forgot about those, heh

But Solitaire never thrust itself to the top of my Start menu

Bob

Actually. I miss WIn7 Minesweeper and Solitaire :P

RegularGDPR

If you bought a box of pint glasses you wouldn't expect a label over the description saying "This product contains alcohol which is a highly addictive substance"*

* This warning applies when this product is used with alcohol containing liquids

Bob

@BenN OTOH it was far more addictive than Candy Crush will ever be. Bleargh.

RegularGDPR

The irony is, Amazon has a policy of banning all nicotine containing products.

Amazon do not sell and do not allow the sale of any e-liquids containing nicotine, or e-cigarette kits that come with nicotine containing liquids or refills.

Bob

3:43 PM

@bertieb s/am not sure/I'm *sure*/

RegularGDPR

It's fine for me cause there's a shop around the corner that sells a weeks' worth of concentrated nicotine liquid for £1.99

@Bob Then they should have a small allergy warning sticker saying "Produced in a factory that processes nicotine. Cannot guarantee will be free of all traces of nicotine"

Bob

Apparently nicotine liquid is rather illegal in AU

*shrug* <== non-smoker

RegularGDPR

<== also non-smoker

@Bob All nicotine containing liquids, or just concentrated nicotine on its own?#

Bob

@RegularGDPR It's complicated.

RegularGDPR

@Bob Erf. That's painfully retarded

(Unless smoking itself is equally regulated, which I suspect it's not)

US regulation is basically non-existent, EU legislation came in as a knee-jerk child-protection measure only, but is otherwise unregulated (and untaxed). Ultimately it's true that long-term scientific information on the health effects of vaping are unclear, but it's undeniably a heck of a lot less harmful than inhaling burning smoke and tar.

allquixotic

3:53 PM

@RegularGDPR :O

you can't use that word!

RegularGDPR

@allquixotic Why, because retarded government decision makers may be offended? Or the public may realise they are retarded and replace them?#

Bob

@RegularGDPR It more or less is.

RegularGDPR

@Bob As in it's illegal to smoke, import, or buy cigarettes unless under prescription?

Burgi

manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/…

Bob

@RegularGDPR Smoking/vaping are equally fine (we don't talk about QLD.). Importing is (probably) similarly restricted. Buying is where it's different, I suppose - it's much easier to buy cigarettes locally.

allquixotic

3:56 PM

@RegularGDPR no, because Be Nice

RegularGDPR

@allquixotic Be nice got removed. It's now be "kind".

allquixotic

!!! Really?! Link??

Bob

You can import cigarettes, just ... have fun paying the import duty.

ChatBot John Cavil

@allquixotic That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.

RegularGDPR

And I would say "retarded" is being generous and kind.

@Bob Yeah, well that's completely different imo. Cigarettes and e-cigarettes are equally restricted to over 18's here, but neither is classified as a poison that is illegal to sell.

@allquixotic It got unstarred :-/

Burgi

3:58 PM

when i worked in a warehouse some of the automated equipment had a retard button on it

RegularGDPR

187

Q: We'd like your feedback on our new Code of Conduct!

TL;DR: We've put together a code of conduct (CoC) that is a bit more comprehensive than our existing be nice policy because we feel that our current policy isn't meeting our needs. Some background, our reasons for doing this and a link to the draft (Google Docs | GitHub) can be found belo...

discussion behavior be-nice-policy code-of-conduct

@Burgi I've heard NTSB board members talking about the Airbus verbal warnings where it yells "Retard retard"

Bob

@RegularGDPR True, I think cigarettes have a special exemption for nicotine.

Oh, here's a proposed amendment: tga.gov.au/book-page/21-nicotine-0

RegularGDPR

See! No "Be nice" anymore!

Bob

Reasons for the current state (and why it's remaining) are listed there.

RegularGDPR

It's mostly detailed explanations on how to be helpful to other site members, but no explicit demand to be nice to retards in general society at large.

> for use in an electronic nicotine delivery system (ENDS)
nicotine concentration up to 3.6%
maximum nicotine per container: 900 mg
in a child resistant container
labelled with the concentration of nicotine and other ingredients
labelled with the statement 'Keep out of reach of children'
labelled with the statement 'Not to be sold to a person under the age of 18 years'.

That's pretty much what the EU did, except with a 1.8% limit

> The current laws are confusing and mixed in Australia. Although the use of nicotine in vaping solutions is illegal, it is commonplace. Consumers struggle to understand why nicotine is hard to obtain, given cigarettes are easy to obtain.

Andy K

4:11 PM

cya

RegularGDPR

Wait no it's 18% in the EU not 1.8%

Bob

@RegularGDPR That's probably what they based it off. It didn't pass.

RegularGDPR

@Bob coughbullshitcough

Bob

Hm. What's a good Win10 tablet?

RegularGDPR

Surface Pro

Bob

4:15 PM

Hm. What's a good cheap Win10 tablet?

:P

RegularGDPR

Surface not-so-pro (Do they still do those anymore?)

Bob

@RegularGDPR There's a new one (Surface Go?) coming out.

RegularGDPR

Surface Go Pro!

Bob

Huh, apparently already available.

It's got a gimped Core M3 in it. Pentium-branded.

And it's retailing locally for ... $800. Blech.

Oh the 64 GB storage one is $600

rahuldottech

Y'all, I gotta focus on my studies, so I'll be mostly offline the next few weeks. I'll check up on pings later, and if you need to reach me, email at r@hul <dot> fun. See ya.

Bob

4:18 PM

*adds Rahul to ignore*

rahuldottech

@Bob anankdkdjshbabsbs

Bob

hey, go study!

rahuldottech

:)

Bob

ebay.com.au/itm/…

This one's good for a laugh.

16 GB storage?

RegularGDPR

"Replacing the atomizer: Unscrew the existing one and replace with a new one"

Great, except it's not working

Bob

4:22 PM

> IPS screen

Intelligent Plane Switching

I haven't heard that one before

RegularGDPR

@Bob A laugh is probably all its good for

Bob

It looks washed out in the photo

> The LASER Widows Tablet comes with 1GB of working memory and 16GB of onboard storage.

lol wtf

> The latest fast and low power consumption Intel Bay Trail processor is clocked at 1.8Ghz with 2M cache - which is great for everyday tasks like web browsing, email, most games, movie playback and even MS office.

RegularGDPR

It intelligently switched to a different plane, the one the photographer is looking at it from

Bob

> most games

> most games

who writes this crap

RegularGDPR

@Bob The same people who write most gamers are women, and most games are web or app based

Bob

4:24 PM

@RegularGDPR Web and app based games probably won't run on this PoS

That said, sadly, it probably is an upgrade to my VivoTab Smart

That old Clover Trail SoC can't even render 720p video smoothly.

That same store has this one... for cheaper, at least

Though I'm pretty sure 32 GB storage won't take a feature update.

RegularGDPR

Well you can use external storage for that now, so...

Hmm who'd have thought a product named "V8 Beast King" would be unusually large compared to its peers

Bob

4:43 PM

lol.

@RegularGDPR look at the first review here productreview.com.au/p/pendopad-7-quad-core/m/…

I'm not entirely sure the reviewer knows what they're trying to say :P

RegularGDPR

@Bob Lol. All the G's!

Bob

Huh, Chuwi has local warranty repair in the UK and US

RegularGDPR

5:12 PM

You appear to be neither in the UK or US

Bob

@RegularGDPR Correct!

I'm tempted though. Looks decent. aliexpress.com/store/product/…

RegularGDPR

5:48 PM

Windows 10 and Android? What will you be using it for anyway?

djsmiley2k

7:01 PM

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Ben N

Win+L? ;)

Bob

@RegularGDPR media consumption :P (probably remove the old Android)

sP_

7:25 PM

paste <(seq 3) <(seq 3 2 8) | tail -1 | awk '{print $1+$2}' | cut -c1 Can someone please explain what's happening here? thanks

Amith KK

@sP_ Its a convoluted way to print a one, that's for sure

@sP_ basically seq 3 generates 1,2,3 in separate lines, seq 3 2 8 generates 3,5,7 (Create a sequence from 3 - 8 adding 2 each time)

paste combines these two files vertically so that you have

1       3
2       5
3       7

tail -1 grabs the last line of this output -> 3 7

the awk line adds the two columns (3+7) = 10

And the cut -c1 retrieves the first "column" in the file (in this case 1 from 10)

sP_

7:41 PM

@AmithKK Thank you so much. After playing around with it I was able to deduce what's happening till the awk part but wasn't sure what's happening at cut. Thanks, again! :)

Amith KK

@sP_ :)

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