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Somewhere around US$50?
Better mice can cost close to $100, even non-gaming models.
Somewhere around U$ 25.
(see: MX Master 2S)
Cheap chinese clone.
Heh. We tend to consider this cheap.
Add shipping, customs, retailer's profit etc
U$ 25 is around 20 bus fares. Again, I don't get paid in dollars, so a direct conversion is meaningless.
So, not wanting to spend it unless necessary, I disassembled the mouse.
00:02
Is public transport government-run where you live?
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public transportation is, by definition, government-run
Hm. Here by public transportation we mean "used by the masses".
Not government run at all.
Here, it's run by a government-subsidized (but technically private) entity, one that is getting nowhere near enough money and is highly inefficient in using its funds.
Like TV networks, it's a... what's the word? "Concession"?
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00:05
hm, maybe a regional thing
When the government says "Mr. Big Businessman here will take care of this for us, charge you people a REALLY FAIR price WE SWEAR, and the goal is NOT PROFIT! Just the BENEFIT of the population"
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we distinguish between public ("state" if you want to get pedantic) and private buses, for example
New York state public benefit corporations and authorities operate like quasi-private corporations, with boards of directors appointed by elected officials, overseeing both publicly operated and privately operated systems. Public authorities share characteristics with government agencies, but they are exempt from many state and local regulations. Of particular importance, they can issue their own debt, allowing them to bypass limits on state debt contained in the New York State Constitution. This allows public authorities to make potentially risky capital and infrastructure investments without...
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that said, our current state gov wants to privatise the state trains and buses, sooo
Interesting...
(this is what the Metropolitan Transportation Authority is)
00:08
TV and radio networks, interstate roads with tax booths, god knows what else.
Operated by private companies who pays peanuts to the government
@Bob Decades ago, our subways were state-owned and operated, much cheaper than buses and had air-con on the stations. Now it's more expensive and no air-con on the stations.
We are the Borg. You will be assimilated.
roar
00:28
So... on the "WWJMGD" thing... I honestly don't want to idolize @JourneymanGeek, but I have been experimenting with an "inner self" concept, and it's not unlike what he does:
Feb 3 '16 at 6:28, by Journeyman Geek
And well , self awareness is why I stop and count to ten before getting the rolled up newspaper of moderation.
Basically I try to ask the wiser being within me, "what's the right thing to do?"
@bwDraco actually, realworld question
Lets say you're a moderator, and someone follows you to your blog, and uses salty language in a comment - what would you do, and why? ;p
The first question to ask is "what exactly does the user want?" A lot of disputes can be resolved when you understand what the other person is trying to achieve.
Determine why the person is doing this, and take appropriate action.
Jan 16 at 8:18, by bwDraco
@JourneymanGeek I kinda see these from a bit of a different viewpoint - instead of just feeding the troll, we should understand why the user wants attention.
Try to assume good faith whenever you can. Eventually, you want to give up, but at least try to help.
Sometimes it's impossible to know why someone does something.
If it persists, just delete the comments without further action.
I'd block comments on the blog and keep an eye open on the community.
If the behavior extends to the community, take appropriate action.
00:35
;p
You ignore it and move on.
Blocking all comments is a bit too heavy-handed. On my blog, comments are moderated on older posts, and are simply deleted without ever getting published if they are bad.
(also, I turn on comment moderation by default)
I don't get much legit comments, and its a good secondary spam prevention tool
@bwDraco I meant blocking this user from commenting. Supposing by "salty" he meant actually offensive.
@ThatBrazilianGuy correct
Sorry, I misunderstood you.
00:38
Its handy to know when its worth quickly deciding to do nothing at all, and move on.
From a user-facing standpoint, the comments were never posted at all.
Which clearly I need to work on XD
@bwDraco yup.
It does not mean you don't try to address the user's issues at least once. Like I said, you eventually want to give up, unless the user is being genuinely harmful. (If that happens, you've already failed.)
The moment someone takes something off site, unless its a genuine threat, its worth ignoring.
I tend to take a more hands-on approach to things FWIW :P
00:41
I have a few thousand users. Maybe a few dozen I recognise.
The good ones deserve my attention
I guess my lack of experience shows.
I'll learn.
FWIW, I have never had any serious experience managing a community. @JourneymanGeek, you were lucky to have had this position for a long time, but not everyone is "born into" positions like this.
No one's born into it
;p
Well, how did you wind up in your first mod position in the first place?
er
I HAVE NO IDEA!
Actually no
timezones!
"Hey, so geek, you seem neat, and are in a different timezone. Here's a mod hat. You're now our off hours mod!"
I guess you just lucked out. That's what I meant by "born into". You were in the right place at the right time.
So... being a mod is not purely a matter of moderation skill or talent.
00:45
Well, on the other hand, its worth knowing what actually needs action.
@bwDraco well, being a good mod is!
Of course, but getting into that position in the first place isn't always a matter of merit.
Here it is! Almost!
in a place like LOTB, it probably might be.
So... what do you suggest for me if I'm to climb the ranks?
There's no ranks ;p
I haven't participated on the main site for a while, though.
00:48
(well, in theory, I'd love to be a CM, but getting paid to be on SE is nice!)
@bwDraco well, the trick is really to enjoy what you do
else you burn out
@JourneymanGeek That's how I wound up being a sports photographer for my alma mater in the first place. I wasn't even interviewed. I was just doing it because it was my passion, and partly because my college's honors program required me to volunteer each year. I wound up in an informal internship and was later just hired by the athletics department.
"do what you love, and you'll never work a day" ;p
that never work a day bit is a bit ambigious.
I volunteered as an event photographer for what is now my college's Office of Communications and Marketing, which included, among other things, taking pictures of sports events.
00:57
@JourneymanGeek I'd hiss at him, because I'm a cat
> WP Automatic Updates broken in 4.9.3.
Wat.
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@bwDraco That's ... being rather unfair to @JourneymanGeek, tbh.
That's where he began, before he was a mod on Super User. He was a moderator for a BattleTech community out of sheer luck.
@Bob heh. I've never actually been able to distil the secret sauce of moderatorship
AIUI that's where he got his mod experience and it just carried over into Stack Exchange.
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01:00
Usually, if you get nominated or asked to by someone else, it's because they like something about you.
@bwDraco Yeah, that happened. Solved the next day.
> February 6, 2018 WordPress 4.9.4 Maintenance Release
February 5, 2018 WordPress 4.9.3 Maintenance Release
I just wasn't so lucky. I was actually very, very close to getting elected on Super User a few years ago.
Fewer than 20 votes would have decided it.
@bwDraco being elected isn't the be all and end all tho
Question: How much private info is there in the Teachers Lounge room? I suspect I would have to accept the mod agreement (or a variant) in order for you to even grant read-only access to it...
(likely, a CM, perhaps even the SE general counsel would have to approve it, due to the legal implications of access to private user data)
tbh
almost none
We can't share private information, so to speak with mods on other sites anyway
01:12
I suppose the biggest issue I need to sort out here is my taking things too seriously. I'll see what I can do and find ways to sort out the restrictive disciplinary environment I'm in that's led me to behave like this.
Oh look a squirrel
@ThatBrazilianGuy Where? I want to chase it
01:27
It's in smoke and ashes now, little animals are tasty when roasted :P
(to dragons, anyway)
Wow. Crazy builds. I guess the folks doing projects like this have lots of experience building PCs...
(was actually considering converting my desktop to fully-custom or modular CPU+GPU liquid cooling at some point, perhaps EK-MLC Phoenix)
But I'm not comfortable dismantling an $850 graphics card when its street price is currently close to $2,000 and is very hard to find.
(this is the matching GPU module for my card)
@bwDraco then don't ;)
Right now, the processor has an AIO attached to it (Corsair H100i v2) but everything else is conventionally air-cooled.
I really like how cool the CPU runs with liquid cooling, but the fans could be quieter.
And FWIW, a modern (Pascal or newer) NVIDIA graphics card will run faster if given liquid cooling because of the way GPU Boost 3.0 works.
(basically, the GPU overclocks itself and, inter alia, lower temperatures allow it to run faster)
Which is why EKWB claims that users will get more FPS with their liquid cooling systems.
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02:04
@bwDraco I feel like SE is rather more formal than other places.
Though maybe not.
Kind of is
Most places vaguely run the way a beta site does - the folks who own the site just go "that guy looks like he could do a good job, here's a badge and a rolled up newspaper"
Because the end goal of Stack Exchange is to build a library of questions and answers. It's not a traditional online bulletin board or forum.
but SE's also in that strange place between a huge site, and a small community - SE's brand of community management, for example, is... kinda unique?
There we go! Formal!
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02:20
@JourneymanGeek Heh. I had a stint as an admin/mod for a gaming community. Pretty much started by accidentally taking over maintenance of their main mod (as in game mod, not moderator) as a dev, which somehow evolved...
I need to be more motivated.
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It was fun and interesting for a bit, then got tiring... I want to play the game, and being a dev is pretty fun, but ... stalking suspected cheaters? Reviewing demo cases? Bleh.
(fondly remember the days when I actively hunted down spam rings, spewing dozens of flags in the process)
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(and I'm only partially joking about the stalking bit. one of the things they wanted was a way to hide admins from the normal ingame admin list... and from the spectator list.)
"I'm just a normal player... honest!"
@bwDraco smokey's automated most of that
02:27
Yup.
I've since started to run my own instance of the bot myself.
There was a time where there were few available instances, so I decided to offer to help and set it up myself. It is not free for me - it costs me an extra $5 a month to run the instance, but I'm happy I did this.
in Charcoal HQ, Oct 15 '17 at 14:47, by bwDraco
We have only three instances available. I might be able to operate an instance for you - what kind of work do I need to do?
._.
(stuff I love/hate about CNY. Oranges. I like the damned things a little too much)
Feb 7 '16 at 6:47, by bwDraco
Tomorrow I have to do a comprehensive cleanup of my entire office, as a Chinese New Year tradition. See ya.
03:02
Last year... I didn't really follow through on the traditioinal Chinese New Year house cleanup. This year... it'll be the most comprehensive clean-up since I moved into this house. Even Astaroth gets cleaned out.
hm
that's not good
I THINK my video card is randomly losing power
Check power connectors.
Any specifics?
Also, this is a really bad time for a graphics card to fail.
Oh I think I know what's the issue
its not the GPU, its probably the PSU and the power draw off the extra lighting
should be a simple fix
What PSU? Are you sure the lighting is pulling a significant amount of power from the +12V rail?
03:05
(I might look into setting up a real bias lighting solution myself - currently using a hack involving a glass jar, flashlight, diffuser wand, and some tissues)
all I need to do is to split off the power for the relay from the power from the lighting
03:23
there we are
Its almost like I knew what I was doing
erf, I need to switch the lighting to NC
or turn off the lights when I switch off my PC, they'll turn back on automatically
or switch back to the less bright LEDs cause the 5050 draws too much power
There we are
maybe I should make the next iteration wifi controllable ;p
03:42
@JourneymanGeek All mah lights are wifi controllable ftw
@FMLCat wait, you have a home now to have lights? ;p
I can be so lazy I can control my lights from anywhere and everywhere, without getting out of bed or bothering to leave the pub
(i'm using a 10 dollar relay with a dodgy fake wood remote for the bias lighting)
@JourneymanGeek Yes, "first" "thing" i did when I "got" a "home" was to set up "excessive" "lighting"
.....
Ya, I think the serially controlled RGBs kinda push it over the top.
;p
03:47
The RGB strip is sadly only RF controlled and not full WiFi, yet.
I have some code for a TI MSP somewhere that will control it off the PC, but I'm yet to actually flash the MCU
I did however run across my USB TTL device in my storage unit yesterday, so when I find the damn MCU, and the program, and the programming software, I'll be able to program it
@JourneymanGeek To be fair they're only there to serve as a 12V load for lead acid battery maintenance (because well, I don't have anything else that can draw 1-5A from 12V other than a short circuit which is closer to 500A)
o0
@FMLCat jokes aside, glad you're no longer wandering around various hostelly places
@JourneymanGeek thanks
To be fair I like the hostel life, just didn't like the stress of not being sure whether I'll have anywhere to stay from week to week and nowhere I can play with my funky electronic stuff like that lighting
04:03
Incidentally Philips recently released an update for the Hue lighting system that supports real-time streaming of 25 updates per second to multiple lights in a room over UDP and Zig bee broadcast. Basically, so it can be integrated into ambilight and/or Razer Chroma
Sadly, I don't have any Razer gear and the raw API isn't available yet I don't think
Else I'd have whole-room screen synchronised "bias lighting"
ah lol
nearly everything razer now's chroma... even their speakers
04:21
Beep Beep, or should I say Meep Meep!!
roar
What you think about a name on an SE community called.... "Donald Trump the Russian Spy"?
Acceptable or what?
MMMEEEEOOOOWWWW
ehh
Usernames are one of those very very very odd things.
In theory you have full freedom, until the wrong person gets offended.
I am lion, hear me .... mmmmmeeeoooowwww
Figured that's what happened... LOL
@JourneymanGeek I think I saw your pic online the other day
04:27
Without glasses no?
totally nope ;p
Every single bit of that picture is wrong ;p
I'd kinda prefer the current name. "Trouble Maker Chat Broom" is funny and I like it.
Thanks!!
Okay, well if you had a pic of me, what would you envision it look like @JourneymanGeek
hm. Apparently a broom.
Is there a S
Keyboard is flipping out on me
Is there an SE joke type community?
04:32
Not really?
I'd love to see one where you can say offensive language and just tell offensive jokes... As odd as that sounds, I'd love to just go and talk hard core trash and it be allowable
LOL....
that's... kinda against the DNA of the site
Ya.... I asked around in Area 51 before and got the whip cracked against my back big time
This is a place where, quite literally rule zero is "don't be a dick" and rule 1 is "be nice"
Yeah.... I was just curious about one room, maybe one day, in an SE far far away... I come from a childhood background that that would bring back some memories for me and take me to a relaxing place.
Childhood just having fun in the hood talking trash to Jerome as the only white boy around!!! Cheers!!
@JourneymanGeek Do you mess with any big data visualization systems?
Including distributed file systems such as Hadoop?
04:48
naw
not yet anyway
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05:02
@JourneymanGeek ...wat.
@JourneymanGeek what's your psu rated for?
and how many LEDs are we talking?
cause with typical 60LED/m strips you'll probably see at most ~15W/m.
Assuming you strung up 2-3m that's only 45W
if your PSU can't handle 45W of extra load on the 12V rail(s) you miiiight've underspecced
or maybe the inrush leads to a voltage drop for a bit... try sticking a couple caps in there
but even then a sudden 50W spike should be nothing to an ATX PSU
05:25
Hmm... I guess power consumption isn't really a big issue in modern servers.
But do these servers still run loud?
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@bwDraco it does make large difference to DCs, actually
Of course, but not quite a big issue in a home environment.
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curious that they've (maybe) ditched their mid-range
@bwDraco tbh I think it actually matters more in a DC than at home
at home you're not going to worry too much if your CPU uses an extra 20W
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in a DC that's suddenly 1000 x 20W
05:28
In a datacenter, you have thousands of these CPUs and you need to cool them.
Remember HVAC.
Every watt counts in the datacenter.
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@allquixotic sooo... can you translate the buzzwords?
> software-defined infrastructure (SDI)
!!/wiki Software-defined data center
Software-defined data center (SDDC; also: virtual data center, VDC) is a marketing term that extends virtualization concepts such as abstraction, pooling, and automation to all data center resources and services to achieve IT as a service (ITaaS). In a software-defined data center, "all elements of the infrastructure — networking, storage, CPU and security – are virtualized and delivered as a service." While ITaaS may represent an outcome of SDDC, SDDC is differently cast toward integrators and datacenter builders rather than toward tenants. Software awareness in the infrastructure is not visible...
@Bob Skylake DE (Xeon-D 2100 series parts ending in "NT") has parts with QAT, which appears to be either microcode or fixed-function hardware support for (more) crypto algs and even lossless compression
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@allquixotic Ah. That makes a lot more sense :P
05:30
I'm guessing hardware gzip for TLS terminating web servers
and with hardware RSA, yeah, it could really fly
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That's actually what I thought at first but then that page went on to talk about a "software-enabled foundation"
Security instructions to support secure virtualization, encrypted video streaming, secure networking, etc.
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@ChatBotJohnCavil "is a marketing term" blech
Compression instructions to maximize storage efficiency.
obviously they can't support any general purpose lossless compression or crypto with something that's supposed to be hw-accelerated, but they can probably do more data throughput with less watts on specific, supported algs using their API that somehow exposes it to programs
presumably a priority would be to get a patched version of nginx and apache httpd into Ubuntu LTS and RHEL ASAP
actually
05:33
@Bob about 2m total - 620w PSU iirc
"software-defined" is one of the biggest buzzwords in the IT industry.
probably only need to patch zlib and openssl
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@JourneymanGeek 980Ti, was it?
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and did you get the 60LED/m or 120LED/m?
05:33
errrr
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250W GPU, +100W CPU, +30W (call it 50W) LEDs, + 100W assorted & buffer = 500W
so yea it's unlikely to be the power consumption of the LEDs
could be noisy switching, bad connections, etc
60 I think
well, I had problems with startup at first ;p
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@JourneymanGeek ya, 30W max sounds about right for 2m
more likely you flubbed a connection somewhere :P
anyway, got the relay running off the PSU, and the lights running off a seperate power supply
05:36
ah, here we go - QAT for engineers, along with nginx and openssl patchsets 01.org/intel-quickassist-technology
which is plausible!
that said, I'd rather split off where the problem obviously is
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idk, I just chucked the lot on a mobo header :P
which is rated for 24W IIRC
I also had issues at startup
ehhh. If I had a mobo header for lights, I might
maaaan, QAT has been in development since 2008
05:38
right now I'm tapped off sata , into a 2 channel relay, out to lights. With connectors in between
@Bob maybe next iteration ;p
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Q: mother board with intel atom 1.6 ghz has a capacity of 2 gb ram

user2754775my processor is 1.6 ghz and ram max capacity is 2 GB , but only 1 gb ram is provided .Will lesser ram delay processing speed ? Am I required to purchase 2 GB ddr2 ram and replace it in place of Present Ram . What type of speed improvement can be achieved with 2 gb ram against 1GB ram now?

I think RAM is the least of this guy's worries :P
I... can't seem to find a good reason to play with ZFS, Docker, or LXD.
that's like a d160
.... you need a good reason?
LZS, LZSS, Extended LZS, Deflate, CRC32, Adler32, dynamic huffman trees, and precompiled huffman trees -- there's the list of compression algs QAT supports
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05:41
@bwDraco I think @JourneymanGeek's reason was boredom
I'd have you know that while I never actually got bitwarden working, it was hardly a waste of time!
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oh yea. @allquixotic I set up KeeOTP today. Works well enough :P
that supports PKZip, RAR and LHarc o_o
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<== no reason to switch yet
@Bob nice
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05:42
That said, it makes me wonder if BitWarden supports keyfiles
Cause that's like 75% of the reason I use KeePass
@allquixotic what auth does it support? just password? 2FA? custom?
bleh, looks like plain old 2FA
there's... problems with that
(...TOTP to log in to your TOTP generator?)
@JourneymanGeek yea I'm kinda scared to ask :P
So... I just can't come up with any serious project ideas.
(also, while my documentation is not as good as I'd like, the mini-docs for the lighting rig are handy when you brainfart over how something is connected)
then... don't
I feel like I am wasting so much time every day.
@Bob knows how much of the stuff I mess around with is pointless.
;p
Its not about the destination, its about the way there.
(I almost said Journey. I am clearly a canid of great restraint)
Why is this bad?
...eh, I have an arrogance problem, and incidents involving arrogant statements happen all the time at home.
05:53
hah
"hello darkness imposter syndrome my old frieeeennnddd"
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🎶I've come to talk to you again🎶
(though one of the barriers to launching larger projects, spending restrictions, are easing gradually, which may get me enough latitude to spend more on dedicated server gear or at least on servers in the cloud, and Mother is willing to provide reasonable amounts of additional funding for stuff like this)
but you don't need money to learn
my first server was literally a decade old or older PIII
what about your SGI box? :D
I set up a server on it cause someone said it wouldn't run a week without overheating...
@allquixotic that's a ... toy. Also free other than shipping ;p
I got it at the same place oddly enough!
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05:58
I started with $15/year (and later $10/year and $7/year) VPSes...
Well, I always have my desktop to work with, and I can easily add more storage if needed.
yup
or for learning purposes, even a VM
@bwDraco maybe computing's not for you? you've been at this for years and don't seem to have any sense of self-direction, meaning you probably don't have much motivation to want to do stuff, which means you either aren't computing (you have to do things to find problems to want to solve) or you don't find it interesting to try and solve them.. just my two cents
I started out in college spending $20/month on Linode, drawing upon my own funds when I actually had less money to work with. Why? Because I wanted my own infrastructure to do class projects.
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