Root Access

Bob

12:04 AM

@FMLCat afaik that only applies within the uk?

@FMLCat huh, never knew/noticed that

Journeyman Geek

12:25 AM

@JonasStein not really - I'm pretty sure even the crowd here is unlikely to have tape drives lying around.

Is it under support?

allquixotic

1:16 AM

@bwDraco I'm wearing my PXC 550s!

bwDraco

So, what do you think?

bwDraco

1:28 AM

Sound quality, ANC, touch controls?

FML Cat

@Bob Actually, the opposite :-P

Sorta

In the UK it's license fee/tax funded and hence they're not allowed to display ads, outside the UK it's not

Bob

@FMLCat o.O

I sit corrected

FML Cat

I'm not correcting you, I'm correcting myself.

Basically I am/was talking shite

bwDraco

@JonasStein I'd say that question should stay on Server Fault. It's server equipment – LTO drives are almost never encountered in a home environment.

Also, where did you find that Hewlett Packard Enterprise makes all LTO-6 drives and that all other brands of LTO-6 drives are simply rebranded HPE devices?

allquixotic

1:54 AM

@bwDraco Will take me a few days to develop informed opinions, but so far the ANC is good, touch controls take some getting used to, and sound quality is what I expected

AVRCP flat volumes are working on the Windows 10 slow ring (not on v1709)

Jonas Stein

2:24 AM

@bwDraco I got this information from two vendors. I believe that it is true, because HP seems to develop software and documentation actively.

You can compare marketplace.hpe.com/… from HPE with the Tandberg model. They even have the same housing.

I was told they just differ in support, add-ons and housing, which makes sense to me, if the drives are standardized.

@bwDraco it-zoom.de/dv-dialog/e/hp-laesst-oem-kunden-den-vortritt-4440 this German article writes that Quantum and Tandberg are OEM partners of HP.

allquixotic

is it HP, or HPE/DXC?

Journeyman Geek

3:59 AM

.... my phone screen broke again.

FML Cat

4:18 AM

Has anyone ever seen a phenomenon when the current from a battery actually goes up the longer you short circuit it for? (or other load, but short circuit is the quickest and biggest load I've tried)

Journeyman Geek

hmm

FML Cat

And not even just by a small amount, I'm talking about starting off at 2A then going up to 8A after 10 seconds and maybe 60A after 20-30 seconds

After 30 seconds or 60A the cables get too hot to hold so I dunno how much higher/longer it'd go for. Oh and it smells a bit of hydrogen at that point. And the resting voltage also ends up 1-2v higher after I disconnected the short circuit

It's like short circuiting it is doing the equivalent of charging it :-/

Journeyman Geek

5:35 AM

what's the voltage?

also why are you short circuting?

bwDraco

@FMLCat Is the battery cold?

Under heavy load, a cold battery will have trouble supplying high current, but its internal resistance will cause it to heat up, which increases its current output capability.

Also, what's the chemistry of the battery?

bwDraco

6:10 AM

So... a bit of a PC enthusiast thing - how many of you use a vertical taskbar?

For me, it looks weird, really weird.

What about multiple rows, top, or other nonstandard taskbar setups?

Journeyman Geek

I don't

I autohide

bwDraco

Why autohide on a 4K display?

Journeyman Geek

cause I don't need it all the time

allquixotic

6:54 AM

@bwDraco ditto

I don't autohide either; I operate the taskbar with factory default settings except for removing the Task View, Search Bar widgets on Windows 10

and I run start10 for the start menu replacement

but layout wise, I don't touch the taskbar

oh... I disable window grouping and use the thinner taskbar that shows the window titles instead of icons (not sure if that's the default on W10 or what)

Bob

7:42 AM

Mine is small icons, only collapse when full, autohide

basically Vista defaults + autohide

never got used to icons only (7+)

@FMLCat probably the heat makes the chemistry more active (and lower resistance)

@allquixotic still? :P

I find the win10 start menu mostly fine

the search could be better (7 is still best) but otherwise mostly works

allquixotic

@Bob yup :P

rahuldottech

9:09 AM

The last message was posted 1 hour ago.

Ave

9:34 AM

1 hour later...

Journeyman Geek

10:43 AM

Bob

11:01 AM

> Splashing a bus passenger with mud after driving through a puddle can cost you $165. Oddly enough, splashing a pedestrian with water is OK. It’s the bus and the mud that seem to be most offensive in the eyes of NSW law.

Journeyman Geek

o0

bertieb

Has there been a rash of bus passenger mud-splashing incidents in NSW?

rahuldottech

@SwiftOnSecurity This is Microsoft who called an update "The Fall Creators Update" in order to make it clear that it was different from just the normal Creators Update. Ignoring of course that Fall is different for literally half the world.

Tweeted by runewake2 on February 11, 2018 at 4:53 AM in reply to SwiftOnSecurity

Journeyman Geek

@bertieb this is clearly the thin brown line between civilisation and anarchy....

Bob

> Riding a bicycle “furiously or recklessly” is a $66 fine in NSW.

bertieb

11:12 AM

If you have to draw a -- brown -- line somewhere, it might as well be there!

DavidPostill

11:49 AM

@Bob Hmm. A bus passenger not on a bus is no longer a bus passenger, they are a pedestrian. How do you splash a passenger on a bus with mud? Do AU buses have no sides or roof?

@Bob Does the law actually define "furiously or recklessly"?

In the UK we have the possibility for cyclists to be charged with "Causing bodily harm by wanton or furious cycling (maximum 2 years’ imprisonment" but the legislation does not appear to define "wanton or furious driving":

> Offences Against the Person Act 1861
Drivers of carriages injuring persons by furious driving.

Whosoever, having the charge of any carriage or vehicle, shall by wanton or furious driving or racing, or other wilful misconduct, or by wilful neglect, do or cause to be done any bodily harm to any person whatsoever, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, and being convicted thereof shall be liable, at the discretion of the court, to be imprisoned for any term not exceeding two years, . . .

Journeyman Geek

12:09 PM

hmm

DavidPostill

hmm.

Some users don't know when to stop.

ChatBot John Cavil

HAMMERTIME!

DavidPostill

It appears now that the Q was edited to fix the "specific product rec" aspects before I answered it. — Jamie Hanrahan 7 mins ago

Really? Your answer was posted 3 hours ago. The question was edited 2 hours ago. You appear to have a strange concept of time ... i.imgur.com/kXOMRez.png. I suggest you stop digging ... the hole is getting deeper ;) — DavidPostill ♦ 1 min ago

@ChatBotJohnCavil Go away!

AFK for a short while ...

Bob

12:25 PM

@DavidPostill legislation.nsw.gov.au/#/view/regulation/2014/758/part15/…

> 245–1 NSW rule: riding a bicycle negligently, furiously or recklessly

(1) The rider of a bicycle must not ride the bicycle:

(a) negligently, or

(b) furiously, or

(c) recklessly.

Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.

rahuldottech

12:46 PM

I'm getting a free domain, which should I choose?

h4cker
h4ckr
h4kr
h4ker

DavidPostill

1:08 PM

@Bob Yes, but it doesn't define what those actually mean, just like the UK ;)

@rahuldottech The first one makes most sense - assuming you want to be labelled as a hacker ;)

Ave

1:26 PM

idk if I'd want to be labeled a hacker

I mean, people would spam me "HEY CAN YOU HACK INSTAGRAM" all day

I mean they already do

but they'd spam more

FML Cat

2:02 PM

@Ave, hey c4n you h4ck instasp4m 4 m3?

Ave

jokerdino

2:18 PM

hey can you spam instagram for me?

Ave

jokerdino

:(

Journeyman Geek

can instagram me for spam?

bertieb

spam me for instagram!

Bob

O_O

@JourneymanGeek That filesystem? I actually got a reply from willowtech, "Only reason I know is that we sent him some sort of cease & desist back in the mid 90's due to infringing a trademark of ours (at which point we discovered he was a schoold kd)."

DavidPostill

2:29 PM

!!/doge instagram spam hacker ave

ChatBot John Cavil

    wow
many instagram spam hacker ave

Journeyman Geek

@Bob 0_0

DavidPostill

Hmm

jokerdino

!!/doge instagram, spam, hacker, ave

ChatBot John Cavil

     wow
such instagram
                 very  spam
                         so  hacker
much  ave

Bob

2:29 PM

@JourneymanGeek It ties together!

DavidPostill

That's better. Damn commas.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob ever played with pihole?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek heard of it many times, but never really been interested

Journeyman Geek

ah k ;p

quite cool

Bob

I'd rather run my blockers locally - they remove the offending element too.

Ave

2:30 PM

@JourneymanGeek I did

Journeyman Geek

@Bob tbh, less interested in the blocking and more in the metrics...

Ave

@Bob this + pihole shows a warning and allows you to skip but that obv doesn't work over https

Journeyman Geek

++ dad ;p

rahuldottech

3:27 PM

@Ave I'm getting a free .me domain with GitHub education, and I don't know what to take

Bob

@rahuldottech is rahul. taken? :P

rahuldottech

@Bob yeah :/

Boris_yo

4:46 PM

"lenovo recalls thousands of laptop batteries..."

Must be such a headache for a company... Thanks to Made in China.

If they made their batteries in Russia, that would never happen.

bwDraco

4:58 PM

roar

Just installed the RGB LED strips.

rahuldottech

5:20 PM

@Boris_yo It's a chinese company sooooo........

@Bob c4s4nov4.me :P

> Thank you in advance and have a great Sunday

Must be canadian

From superuser.com/questions/1294023/…

No offence, but @ramhound comes off as really a sort of a dick from this meta answer. Even if they had proper and logical reasoning, they could have been less rude about the whole ordeal, and provide a, well, better explanation to someone who is a new user and clearly trying to contribute to the site. meta.superuser.com/questions/12906/…

bertieb

5:38 PM

Some folks are direct to the point of bluntness, and can appear to be brusque

bwDraco

flickr.com/photos/57993471@N06/40207131841

bertieb

As long as it falls within the "Be Nice" boundaries

rahuldottech

@bertieb I'm not sure if it does

bertieb

I know what you mean

I guess the usual routes are open

Flag, AASUM (Ask A SU Mod), Meta post, discuss in here for all and sundry to chip in on (:P)

I agree that new users deserve good treatment, especially if they're trying to contribute

@bwDraco Nice :) (I opened a tab to zoom and got confused because I saw 40.. and thought Flickr had lost the image)

Beyond that, it's so someone more diamondy than I to weigh in on :P

Ramhound

5:55 PM

@rahuldottech When I call someone a what you called me, I will agree, I am one of those

bwDraco

FWIW, you seem a bit insensitive to others' feelings. I'd suggest before you post, you read back what you wrote and get an idea of what the other person would think.

Ramhound

I don’t consider someone with over a thousand reputation a new user, someone who has multiple contributions, should know that radical edits are often rejected

12k on SO, 100 questions and 22 answers on SU; makes you an experienced Stackexchange member

When people start a statement with “no offense”, they know what they are saying is offensive, but they do it anyways

If you don’t find me answer to that meta question helpful downvote it. I am not going to explain, in more detail, the reason a radical modification to an answer I wrote was declined.

Offense taken, by the way, calling somebody that word is hurtful. You knew that, hence the reason, you said “no offence”

DavidPostill

FWIW The author of a question or answer always has the right to reject edits. And edits should be made to clarify the meaning of a post without changing it. In this case the editor removed the block quotes which indicated the text was copied verbatim from another source. @Ramhound was right to reject the edit.

Michael Frank

6:12 PM

If it's instructional source (i.e step by step instruction), does it still need to be quoted verbatim? The information is still there after the edit, and anyone following the source can see where the steps have been paraphrased from.

However, from a readability viewpoint, it makes much more sense to craft the information in a format suitable for our situation, rather than just copy and pasting giant chunks of content from someone else.

DavidPostill

@MichaelFrank I've always quoted as per superuser.com/help/referencing. I may occasionally change the formatting (for example adding markdown) to make it more readable but I try not to change the original wording. Theoretically we should not even correct spelling mistakes in cited text, but I do that sometimes.

Ramhound

I was lazy when I submitted the answer, now I am being stubborn, after being called what I was called.

Michael Frank

@Ramhound You're always stubborn though. :)

Ramhound

As a donkey I know that

Michael Frank

> Do not copy the complete text of external sources; instead, use their words and ideas to support your own. And always give proper credit to the author and site where you found the text, including a direct link to it.

FML Cat

6:18 PM

@Bob I'd considered that, but resistance shouldn't affect the resting voltage with no load (and I thought resistance usually went up with higher temperatures)

Ramhound

First of all the quotation is a source, my own words, was the answer

DavidPostill

@Ramhound FWIW The author of the meta question did not come across as rude, just puzzled as to why his edit was rejected.

Ramhound

I quoted a source

I had no problem with the author of the meta question

Only @rahuldottech due to what they called me

DavidPostill

@MichaelFrank He did not copy the complete text, which is several pages long and has multiple authors.

FML Cat

@Bob I'd certainly be more annoyed and inconvenienced being covered by mud than plain water. And I'm guessing a bus displaces more of it than a regular vehicle or water pistol

Michael Frank

6:21 PM

@DavidPostill Hmmm... I would disagree with that interpretation, but I need to head to work, and fully assume this conversation will be well in the past by the time I get there.

DavidPostill

@Ramhound Yeah, that was a bit OTT.

@MichaelFrank Go look at the link. The web page clearly contains a lot more than Ramhound quoted.

Ramhound

I am the type if I have a problem with something you say, I will just come out and say it, and after words I couldn’t careless. But calling me out, and name calling, is just dirty.

rahuldottech

@Ramhound what I meant by "no offense" was that I had proper reasoning for saying what I was saying, and it wasn't just for the heck of it

Anyhow, I'm sorry for using that language

@DavidPostill I didn't say Ramhound was wrong in rejecting said edit, just that they came off as hostile

Which is probably the word that I should have used in the first place, I apologise

Ramhound

Meta answer deleted

My reasons for rejecting an edit proposal was hostile. I made it short to avoid that from being said

Yeah, the comment I made, was made after a radical edit proposal and shouldn’t have been made hence the reason I deleted the comment

Any event I am done talking about this. Figured the author, and the person who rejected the edit, should explain their reasons (but it wasn’t just one reason) and was primarily due to the fact it was radical change (which nobody agreed should have been approved) so the drama makes no bloody sense

Burgi

6:38 PM

hey you know that site i've been bashing my head against? its now live. would it be ok for me to share the URL here and get some technical feedback on it from you guys?

bertieb

!!shamelessplug, you say

ChatBot John Cavil

@bertieb That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: shamelessplug

bertieb

Ahhhh Cavil, I wasn't actually invoking you

Burgi

a little bit, more just to see if i've missed anything crazy

polypipeufh.com (i know about the SSL. its coming soon...)

ping me if you have any feedback,. i'm going to go eat and have a beer

DavidPostill

@burgi It has 9 html errors, 4 css errors and 664 css warnings ;)

@Burgi Why are you using full size images on polypipeufh.com/professional? Example: 2,363px × 1,577px (scaled to 261px × 174px). What a waste of my bandwidth :/ Not only that you can see the images loooooaaaaadddddddiiiiiinnnnng

Please fire your minion and hire somebody who knows how to code websites.

bwDraco

7:01 PM

It's a responsive design, and may be viewed on mobile devices with high pixel density. However, he should still be using smaller images. IMO the top image should not be wider than 1440px, and the other images should be limited to 640px or 800px.

Also, consider stripping the Exif metadata from the images.

If you're using stock images, make sure you've acquired them legally.

DavidPostill

Yeah, so load appropriately sized images for the display size and type detected. It's not rocket science.

bwDraco

html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/responsive/picture-element

The best way to do this is with separate 1x and 2x images.

I'm not familiar with this technique, though.

rahuldottech

@Burgi i like

/professional is super slow tho

also, menu bar on /prof is crappy

also, s/FAQS/FAQ/

Q stands for "Questions"

Alternatively, FAQs

DavidPostill

7:20 PM

@Burgi pageweight.imgix.com/jobs/fb26ffb3-69af-4d03-86e2-cf188fa2afc2

@rahuldottech ^^^ Shows why :)

rahuldottech

@Burgi NEEDS MORE JPEG

(srsly)

bwDraco

For web, I would recompress images to JPEG quality 90. Even that would dramatically reduce image size. I'd also recommend using progressive JPEG for any images that are displayed as part of a web page.

rahuldottech

7:36 PM

> Currently we are only offering free .me domains and a discounted rate on other TLD's to select universities in the US, UK, Canada and Australia. Enter your student email address here. We'll check your eligibility and email you additional instructions.

@Ave

Github Education just let me down

Ave

worked for me weirdly

rahuldottech

@Ave I don't have a student email address

Ave

OH

that's a problem.

rahuldottech

I used my ID for github edu

bwDraco

reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/7wubgr/pcmr_meet_astaroth

rahuldottech

7:39 PM

@bwDraco you can buy a decent new car for that much in India wtf

Also, that'll cover complete college education from a good university here

bwDraco

Tata, I suppose?

(for those not familiar with this...)

!!/wiki Tata Motors

ChatBot John Cavil

Tata Motors

Tata Motors Limited (formerly TELCO, short for Tata Engineering and Locomotive Company) headquartered in Mumbai, is an Indian multinational automotive manufacturing company and a member of the Tata Group. Its products include passenger cars, trucks, vans, coaches, buses, sports cars, construction equipment and military vehicles. Tata Motors has been ranked 5th in 2017 Responsible Business Rankings developed by IIM Udaipur. Tata Motors has auto manufacturing and assembly plants in Jamshedpur, Pantnagar, Lucknow, Sanand, Dharwad, and Pune in India, as well as in Argentina, South Africa, Great Britain...

rahuldottech

@bwDraco Or Maruti Suzuki

Maruti Suzuki

Maruti Suzuki India Limited, formerly known as Maruti Udyog Limited, is an automobile manufacturer in India. It is a 56.21%-owned subsidiary of Suzuki and motorcycle manufacturer Suzuki Motor Corporation. As of January 2017, it had a market share of 51% of the Indian passenger car market. Maruti Suzuki manufactures and sells popular cars such as the Ciaz, Ertiga, Wagon R, Alto, Swift, Celerio, Swift Dzire, Baleno and Baleno RS, Ignis. The company is headquartered at New Delhi. In February 2012, the company sold its ten millionth vehicle in India. == History == Maruti was established in February...

bwDraco

Hmm...

rahuldottech

7:54 PM

@allquixotic Just wanted to say that your participation on meta SU is amazing, and you phrase your answers/comments in an exemplary manner which I never would've been able to

case in point: meta.superuser.com/questions/12903/…

Burgi

8:31 PM

@rahuldottech @DavidPostill the professional sub site is wordpress. the navigation was not my idea and i was over-ruled by non-technical people. it has not been optimized at all

it is good that neither of you have mentioned the first bit

DavidPostill

@Burgi You mean the dreaded WordPress word? ;)

djsmiley2k

Nearly back at Dover, t this sea is really rough

allquixotic

8:51 PM

@rahuldottech eh, I can be a little crabby at times

bertieb

@djsmiley2k Safe home lad o/

Burgi

@DavidPostill it isn't that bad as a piece of software. you get a lot bad installations and low quality devs giving it a bad name

djsmiley2k

Well someone saying parts of the M1 closed :/

Burgi

meh! #EastCoastProblems

there has been heavy snow in north manchester today

thanks for the feedback @DavidPostill

i've been stressing about it all weekend and my gf has banned me from talking about it or looking at it

allquixotic

9:07 PM

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