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bwDraco

12:19 AM

@HornOKPlease IMO it's not worth it. I'm waiting for a 7nm RTX solution.

You have a 1080, right?

I'm on a 1080 Ti so I'm not exactly convinced I'm getting much from a graphics card upgrade.

CowperKettle

3:13 AM

@djsmiley2k Yes, I have an external 500 Gb backup disk (USB), and I've just installed a 250 GB SSD and clones the OS there

It bugs me that when I work on it, the HDD produces busy sounds, although the system is on the SSD. I wonder how do I check what exactly the HDD does in these moments.

bwDraco

How SSD Technology Keeps Getting WORSE! - Intel 660p Review

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5 hours ago, by bwDraco

> As for long-term data retention and data loss over time, flash memory operates by storing and sensing electron charges in an array of floating-gate MOSFETs. This electron charge can be changed by essentially forcing electrical charges through the insulator that forms the floating gate in each transistor to store data.

Over time, electrons can leak out of the floating gate insulators, resulting in data loss or corruption. This process may take many years for flash memory that has not seen much use, but an SSD that has seen heavy use will have worn down the floating gate insulation inside …

> [...] we tried running the cache flushing utility from Intel's SSD Toolbox during the test, and observed its progress bar actually going backwards while our benchmark was showing throughput spikes.

rofl

(the SLC buffer can be manually flushed in Intel SSD Toolbox)

As for endurance... it may seem low at 200 TBW for the 1 TB drive, but that's not really an issue. That is still more than 100 GB per day over 5 years, when your typical power user will average 20 GB per day on a boot volume.

Journeyman Geek

6:34 AM

@HornOKPlease arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/11/… probably worth a read

bwDraco

> [...] the RTX 2080 Ti is recommended for systems with 650W power supplies [...] As it turns out, a 650W limit is still a roll of the dice with Nvidia's highest-end consumer-grade card. Certain use cases, particularly VR, consistently result in my testing rig shutting down, even when I use the EVGA X1 software interface to underclock the 2080Ti. Testing other 650W power supplies with that card and my system hasn't helped matters.

Wat.

(Astaroth has a 850W power supply, but maximum overclocked load is about 500-550W, so you should be able to get by with 650W; not sure why this would be an issue)

Journeyman Geek

I think its the same suggested limit they have had for years.

I run a 980 with a 620W PSU

and I suspect that's pretty much at the edge

oooh

@rahuldottech you might get a kick out of this thinkwiki.org/wiki/Ultrabay_Plus_Cradle_for_the_WorkPad_C500

bwDraco

Also, regarding thermal dissipation... because the new reference cards do not use centrifugal fans as they traditionally do, heat is exhausted into the case. This may be good for large cases, but is not ideal in SLI configurations or SFF systems.

Journeyman Geek

eh, I actually have a non squirrel cage fan and meh.

but but... I wasn't trying to editorialise

I was going "Hey, look at this article of interest"

bwDraco

Speaking of ThinkPads... I kinda want the ThinkPad A485, which is essentially a T480 with Raven Ridge guts (the chassis is the same), but I am not buying another computer in such a short span of time.

Journeyman Geek

6:40 AM

and let @HornOKPlease draw his own conclusions

I'm actually more concerned with the state of windows and raytracing if any

bwDraco

IMO it's not really worth it. As things stand, RTX has a massive performance penalty that makes it usable only at 1080p even on the RTX 2080 Ti.

For most games, the gain in performance does not justify the price.

Journeyman Geek

which is fine

but I think folks can draw their own conclusions

bwDraco

And I run 1440p so this is not really an acceptable compromise.

(note that allq has a GTX 1080 and not a GTX 1080 Ti, so he's going to see a substantial improvement in performance; the value proposition is far weaker as an upgrade to Astaroth, which uses a rare variant of the GTX 1080 Ti with 12 Gbps memory)

(IIRC the RTX 2080 Ti has about 160% the performance of the GTX 1080, and 125% of the GTX 1080 Ti)

Yeah, that's about right.

The RTX 2080 performs at about 105% of the GTX 1080 Ti and 130% of the GTX 1080.

Bob

6:56 AM

@JourneymanGeek My 1080 never goes above a total system draw of ~400, IIRC (incl CPU etc)

Journeyman Geek

@Bob I have some wierd, random crap tho

(that's to say, I stopped powering my bias lighting off the PC cause I had issues)

Bob

I'm debating ordering a second charger for the ticwatch :P

Journeyman Geek

does it do the wireless charging ?

Bob

had two for my older pebble, one for the current pebble (which is slightly annoying) but it looks like the standard ticwatch charger is a dock so it's not as portable as a cable

Journeyman Geek

I think its a mostly standard Qi Charger, only for watches

Bob

7:01 AM

@JourneymanGeek I don't think so... the standard dock is magnetic with pogo pins

Journeyman Geek

ugh

Bob

sooo

pebble charges better and lasts longer

this is a sidegrade at best :(

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

pebble, y u die

Journeyman Geek

they don't make anything like it yet

Bob

7:03 AM

(as in the company; my watches still work fine)

I'd buy the pebble time 2 in a heartbeat, no pun intended

I was actually planning to before they cancelled and I had to pick up a time 1 (for cheap at least)

rahuldottech

8:42 AM

> The man who hunts ducks out on weekends

A strange sentence

> The old man the boat

> The complex houses married and single soldiers and their families

> The cotton clothing is usually made of grows in Mississippi

> We painted the wall with cracks

(as in, painted the wall which had cracks)

I love these.

> A garden-path sentence is a grammatically correct sentence that starts in such a way that a reader's most likely interpretation will be incorrect; the reader is lured into a parse that turns out to be a dead end or yields a clearly unintended meaning.

DavidPostill

9:00 AM

I saw a man on a hill with a telescope.
Look at the dog with one eye.
Did you see her dress?
Visiting relatives can be boring.
We saw her duck.
The lady hit the man with an umbrella.
General flies back to front.

rahuldottech

:D

DavidPostill

9:37 AM

I like the last one :)

MyDaftQuestions

10:04 AM

Good morning. I'm about to buy a new laptop, for pretty much Visual Studio work only. As such, SSD and a good i5 is suitable for my needs.

I'm thinking about doing all of this work in a VM, so if anything goes wrong, I can simply re-deploy the VM.

My research suggests that for multiple VMs on a normal computer, an i7 is recommended. Does my idea of having an i5 on my laptop running a single VM sound like a 'daft' suggestion?

Journeyman Geek

@MyDaftQuestions depends on the vm

MyDaftQuestions

Also, the old man the boat. I've just googled it and I still can't fathom how it's correct as a sentence

VirtualBox, Windows 10 (running on W10)

Journeyman Geek

And practically you're looking at ram, disk speed and quantity and presumably core/thread count

DavidPostill

@MyDaftQuestions The old (people) man (sail) the boat.

MyDaftQuestions

Thank you @DavidPostill

Journeyman Geek

10:09 AM

The problem with saying core i5 and i7 is performance varies based on sku

MyDaftQuestions

@JourneymanGeek well, it's 8GB RAM and i5 8250u is 4 core, 8 threads

Journeyman Geek

Ahh

That should be ok

MyDaftQuestions

Yes, that is what I'm hoping.

Thank you so much (again) for helping me out :)

Journeyman Geek

Oh if you can , get a reasonably large ssd

You would want at least 60gb on the vm I suspect

MyDaftQuestions

It's 256GB. On my current machine, I use 120GB (all files, OS etc)

And yes, you're right. At the moment, my VS projects take about 20gb. So, on top the actual VS program etc

Journeyman Geek

10:15 AM

Yup

MyDaftQuestions

@DavidPostill sorry, General flies back to front? Can you explain please

DavidPostill

10:53 AM

@MyDaftQuestions A general (rank in the army) flies (takes a plane trip) back (returns) to front (a zone of conflict between armies)

rahuldottech

12:02 PM

@DavidPostill I'm not sure if I get it

Are general flies a thing?

DavidPostill

12:21 PM

@rahuldottech Ok. Think about it. Rahul flies (in a plane) to England. Does that make sense? If you were a general in the army then "General (Rahul) flies" make sense, no?

> General flies back to front.

Would be a news headline.

In news headlines they commonly leave out "A" (because of space limitations). So "A footballer scores a goal" becomes "Footballer scores goal".

rahuldottech

@DavidPostill Ah, got it. Thanks.

djsmiley2k

1:01 PM

@DavidPostill man hit the dog with the stick

DavidPostill

1:15 PM

@djsmiley2k man with dummy stopped baby crying

Journeyman Geek

1:37 PM

> Game Issues on Thuban CPUs: The game does not work with AMD Thuban based Phenom II CPUs (eg. Phenom II X6 1100T). Unfortunately there is no workaround for this issue, as these simply do not have the CPU features that the game requires.

(from the sunset overdrive bug notes)

despite allegely being buggy, and needing two small fixes on the control scheme...

its been fun

MyDaftQuestions

2:21 PM

Still doesn't work for me. If it were
A general flies back to the front then yes. But it's missing the "the"#

I've only heard the front referred to as "the front", never as "front" so it's quite possibly it's just my lack of awareness :)

DavidPostill

2:35 PM

{shrug}

rahuldottech

2:52 PM