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That Brazilian Pony

12:01 AM

Glad I'm just blocking any incoming connections.

That Brazilian Pony

Any regulars here live in a hurricane-affected area?

AFAI remember, @allquixotic and @bwDraco live in the US.

allq is in Maryland.

I'm a New Yorker.

That Brazilian Pony

Interactive realtime(?) hurricane map by Google

nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at1+shtml/…

That Brazilian Pony

@bwDraco He's not been online in four days. Hope he's OK

12:17 AM

One disaster after another... #PrayForFlorida #PrayForMexico #PrayForTexas

Tweeted by bwDraco on September 10, 2017 at 12:17 AM

##/ultraheaddesk

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Journeyman Geek

12:46 AM

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(yeah, now the truely OCD stalkery ones can find out roughly where I live. But COOL CAT!)

1:06 AM

meow

What a cutie.

1:29 AM

The cheapest 8 TB high-performance (7200 RPM) desktop hard drive yet is from Toshiba

2 hours later…

3:21 AM

@allquixotic, are you around?

I have seen no recent activity on your account and I'm getting worried.

3 hours ago, by That Brazilian Pony

@bwDraco He's not been online in four days. Hope he's OK

Can a mod superping him (@@44027)?

Hmm...

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A: What are the rules for when chat messages appear in a user's inbox?

To use you as an example: @TonyMeyer, i.e. an exact match will cause a notification if you've been in the room in the past seven days. @Tony, i.e. a first name match (to be precise, a word boundary match) will cause a notification if you've been in the room in the past two days. @Ton will notif...

A superping is not necessary just yet.

Journeyman Geek

3:51 AM

@bwDraco considering he's nowhere near the storm areas..

probably just busy with work

happens sometimes

4:31 AM

@bwDraco Hi there (: thanks for being concerned about me; personal injury, storm damage, meeting a wonderful woman and forgetting the rest of the world, being jailed, losing interest in Root Access, etc. are ALL false theories about my whereabouts

the true one is what Geek just said, actually: I worked about 104+ hours last week

one day ( I think it was Wednesday ) I had a nap from 4-5am, a nap from 2:30 - 3pm, and that's it... working hard as possible rest of the time

you guys are all my friends (bwDraco, JMG, Bob, BenN, Burgi, ThatWhateverGuy, TOWMN, etc.) and there's no way I'd willingly abandon you, and my health is just fine

6

I'll be back more often once work is less horrible

Journeyman Geek

5:11 AM

@allquixotic you forgot, getting kidnapped by aliens, or laid low by a flower to the head.

@allquixotic oh, I was vaguely aware work was being nuts. I just didn't want to go into detail ;p

@JourneymanGeek Wait so

If I were to try and ping someone who hadn't been online in more than a week

Journeyman Geek

@rahuldottech so?

@rahuldottech 2 weeks

it won't work

I can, using something called a superping

I could just explicitly reply to an old message...?

Journeyman Geek

nope

IIRC won't work

Ah, thought so

Yeah, I tried it out with sock a few weeks ago

didn't work, but maybe I did something wrong

@bwDraco I generally dislike first person shooting games

Notable exception is Halo, of course

Journeyman Geek

5:21 AM

AC isn't a FPS is it?

@ThatBrazilianPony WAIT

Journeyman Geek

@rahuldottech OH DO KEEP UP

@JourneymanGeek -.-

@allquixotic :D

hey there, someone familiar with computer hardware? Motherboard on laptop died, I saved the harddrive but I can only see the "F" partition. What happened to "C" (i.e. where the operating system was installed) - can I save that stuff somehow?

@Julix Try testdisk

Or recuva

Also, are you on linux?

5:31 AM

nope, win10 - and here's the beautiful part - no internet on that computer! :D

@Julix Alsoooo, drive labels can get changed from PC to PC

Did you actually check for the data?

label change is fine, just making sure I'm not missing something like "duh of course you can't see a system partition when not using it on that actual computer"

@Julix Eh

that doesn't happen

The label did change (it's G on this computer) - but there's only one partition showing up (i.e. the F one)

unless you were using some sort of encryption

5:34 AM

it was an alienware computer... but I didn't build/install it .... I vaguely remember getting that kind of option long ago when I set up a system last time... damn I hope not

but yeah, I'll find a way to get the programs transferred and check

@Julix Wait

Journeyman Geek

can you even boot?

I bought "way too much" computer - 24 gb of vram - and it didn't come with a wifi card (does have slots free) and my wifi cable doesn't reach

wat? - I'm using a usb thingy to connect it

I got a new computer, connected the old hard drive to it through USB 3

@JourneymanGeek I think he's connecting the drive on another PC

Journeyman Geek

ah ok

5:35 AM

@Julix That... might be it!

yup, thanks rahul :)

Oh, that's it, probably

Journeyman Geek

can you pop a screenshot of what it sees on create and format hard disk partitions?

Windows doesn't see different partitions on USB drives

Also, try running diskpart and then list disk in cmd

There we go, so I'd have to install it directly in the computer, then it would?

5:36 AM

@Julix Hopefully

Try diskpart first

it's not in that list...

If it sees it, but explorer doesn't, something is wrong

Ah, that's good then

oh, ok - good

@Julix would you happen to have a live linux usb lying around?

so if I install the harddrive in the computer directly does that mean I could see the files or would it try to boot into it (in which case isn't win10 checking that it's real by knowing what the motherboard id is?)

5:38 AM

Or, if it's easy to physically install the drive you should probably just do that

nope - I really should though :D - can linux see partitions on usb drives?

@Julix You can boot from your existing disk using the boot menu

@Julix Yes, IIRC

ah, cool

@Julix You won't be able to boot from the dead PC's harddrive

another point for linux... I always wanted to be a linux guy, but I need photoshop and couldn't find enough reasons to justify switching

@rahuldottech didn't think so - it's expecting a structure that's not there - it would have drivers and such that wouldn't work here - would be weird if systems were that portable... cool though, but weird for windows

5:40 AM

@Julix Pretty much the same here. As a dev I should probably use Linux, but I love Windows

@Julix Windows To Go, man. I use it all the time (am doing so now too). It's the shizz.

wut? haha :D

googles

@Julix Live Windows USB, basically

Wasn't windows live some messenger forever ago? :D -- fair enough

Journeyman Geek

lol

Ok, so I can't even see the harddrives in there - there's those two huge graphic cards, a gigantic cooling thing (probably sitting on the cpu), 4 ram sticks, and surely somewhere the harddrives, but I don't see them :O - the guy said he installed the motherboard reversed (i.e. upside down) for some optimization reason that I don't understand - there's some parts above the cards that I can't see, wonder whether the drives are there :D

5:47 AM

@Julix wot

Journeyman Geek

0_0

Uh, start up your PC and listen for the spinny part

ssd :P

also fans

Or... locate the SATA port and follow the cables

Journeyman Geek

@Julix what's your case?

5:48 AM

lul - there's a whole section that's behind a little black metal thingy - all the less sexy parts are basically covered up -- really convenient manual screws, so should find it fast

Journeyman Geek

motherboards go only one way in a case.

cassar or cassiar or crossar or something.. one sec

Journeyman Geek

oh dear

cosair?

lol :P

Journeyman Geek

duuude, this is going to be a lot harder if you have no idea what you're running, and how its put together 0_0

5:49 AM

Uhm, yeah

Yup, indeed - last time I was interested in hardware stuff was early 2000's I think

@Julix tell ya what

I avoided good computers to avoid getting sucked into good games

Journeyman Geek

lol

and now I have 24 gb of vram in my living room

5:50 AM

Stop right here, don't mess with the hardware

Journeyman Geek

I game so I have an excuse to build good computers every few years ;)

@Julix Get a live linux install, and try that first

Journeyman Geek

12x2 sounds like.. a pair of titans?

yup

it's for my fiancee - she's in motion graphics and interested in vr

Journeyman Geek

ah

5:51 AM

her alienware laptop died the tragic death of motherboard not powering up at all anymore

Journeyman Geek

(I used to work in VFX.. 2 jobs ago)

so I upgraded her from a GTX 980 or whatever that thing had to this set up. about to go pick her up from the airport

Surely she'd be more excited if all her stuff was there, but I imagine she'll be happy regardless.

and she has no idea I did that - so I'm looking forward to seeing her face :)

"...upgraded her from a GTX 980 or whatever that thing is..."

You've got to be kidding me

Journeyman Geek

lol

@rahuldottech technically that wouuld have been on a laptop

and it sounds like a desktop replacement

@JourneymanGeek NO BUT

"gtx 980 or whatever..."

Journeyman Geek

5:54 AM

lol

it was a laptop - now desktop - thus no wifi

Journeyman Geek

Clearly he's a developer ;)

hi :) gm!

@JourneymanGeek neat!

@JourneymanGeek I wouldn't even need an excuse if I had that kind of money

because why would you need a damn wifi card in a desktop, right? so annoying - there are apparently free PCI slots, so I'll go buy a card and a longer LAN cable when I get the chance... - so funny to have this crazy overkill of a computer and be unable to watch youtube on it because of lack of long enough lan cable :D

5:55 AM

@Julix You can get pretty decent USB WiFi dongle thingies

But since you've got this beast of a PC, that's be kinda weird and out-of-place

yeah, but on this kind of computer I might play like a top tier game sometime - and then I want top tier internet speed, so probably lan

haha, yup

Yep, lan is the way to go for good speeds

Journeyman Geek

@Julix my motherboard came with one. i hardly use it

though my backbone's a homeplug setup which is slightly dodgy at times

My girlfriend wants to know what my mum thinks of her. I'm not sure if I want to bring it up with mum just yet.

not sure what homeplug means

Journeyman Geek

5:57 AM

@Julix networking over powerlines.

Wait, so your mom doesn't know you have one or what?

@Julix She found out day before when she kinda read our chats. And then proceeded to message my girlfriend from my account

holy, that sounds... I don't know dangerous and fast... not sure why I have a mental image of fast, but it's certainly there :D

ok, then the best way to bring it up would be "Wth mom? why were you reading my chats?"

Journeyman Geek

eh, its kinda naff

but its fairly reliable

@Julix that... happened. Unfortunately, I also happen to be 16 years old.

So... yeah

5:58 AM

Privacy is important still - go find a study that proves that

and then show her :)

I know

She didn't read the old chats as much as speak with my girlfriend

Which kinda pissed me off because she did that without telling me so

write her like a science paper on the topic and then declare your room an independent "household" and then clean up yourself etc so she doesn't have excuse to interfere

holy what? that's so invasive?!

Journeyman Geek

lol

And my girlfriend basically told her that we're dating, which was the right thing to do

get some better encryption !

yeah, that's true

at least she didn't try to pass as you

6:00 AM

Yeah

what country are you from?

Mum's taking it surprisingly well

@Julix India

is that more normal there? I here north americans have an inflated sense of privac

@Julix It's... idk

Differs from family to family

My mum generally respects my privacy

Ok, but you still feel like she violated your trust somehow, right?

6:01 AM

But apparently she thought this was really required

@Julix Yep, I would've appreciated her asking me first

yeah, ok. so then maybe less "what the hell" and more "what lead to this, mom?"

like why would she stop trusting you or whatever... anyway, thanks for helping y'all :)

I'll go and try to find the manual for the case - oh, nope... too late it's time to get going to the airport.

On the other hand, this incident also lead to my girlfriend and I getting closer and a fight between us getting sorted out and also an intense make out session after months, so I can't really complain

:)

good luck with it all!

You too!

cheers! :)

6:03 AM

:)

@JourneymanGeek O-o powerlines!?

@Julix let us know how it goes with the drive installation

Journeyman Geek

@Nick yes

Power-line communication

Power-line communication (PLC) is a communication method that uses electrical wiring to simultaneously carry both data and electric power. It is also known as power-line carrier, power-line digital subscriber line (PDSL), mains communication, power-line telecommunications, or power-line networking (PLN). A wide range of power-line communication technologies are needed for different applications, ranging from home automation to Internet access which is often called broadband over power lines (BPL). Most PLC technologies limit themselves to one type of wire (such as premises wiring within a single...

O_O HOLY!!

... but how exactly?

@Nick kinda like PoE, I'm guessing

(power over Ethernet)

6:08 AM

except over powerline :D lol - that is a lot less crazy / dangerous looking than my first mental image (think people climbing poles like they do to steal cable television)

and also really cool - apparently I'm so excited (she was gone for 3 weeks) that I thought I had to go, when really I still have 25 minutes until I have to leave :D - gha

Okay, this is Ethernet over power, not the other way around

@rahuldottech woah! That's neat.

Which makes sense, I guess

@Nick yep

hghiiii

hi

6:09 AM

@Avery 'lo

"1.3 Gbit/s" - wut?

@Julix Don't ask me, I'm on a 4mbps internet connection

ncix.com/detail/corsair-carbide-clear-600c-full-35-117606.htm that's the case by the way - but still haven't found the manual

You foreigners take decent internet for granted

@Julix impressive

@JourneymanGeek The motherboard does appear inverted

LinusTechTips has a vid on it:

Journeyman Geek

so it is

6:13 AM

Corsair 600C Case Review - Something seems a bit... different...

Journeyman Geek

I got the 1.3 Gbit/s varient. I'm happy to see fast ethernet speeds ;p

IF you had newer wiring its fine.

holy shit - the back panel reveals a completely different view - didn't realize

Yeah, the video I was just watching mentioned the case has the mb inverted... so it wasn't the guy's choice as much as the cases, I guess - though he chose the case - wonder what difference it makes

@Julix Take a look at the LTT one ^

@Julix Harddrive bays are bellow the IO ports, with the PSU

SSD trays behind the motherboard

@rahuldottech lolno

damn, forgot all 3 ssd slots area already filled

now I don't know which one has the os installed on :D

6:22 AM

@rahuldottech that's so smooth to open up and put stuff into.

@Julix :) good luck.

Journeyman Geek

@Nick cosair's cases are a joy to work on

Pricy, big, but maaaaan

first one I pulled was the system os :D

I think

@Julix Don't be late for the airport!

Journeyman Geek

6:52 AM

right. got a lxqt box up for home stuff. Amusingly, its running my third monitor as the primary and looks pretty darned usable on it 0_0

@rahuldottech (@Julix) ehhhhh. That only applies to removable/flash (mass storage) drives. USB-attached-SCSI are treated as (removable) HDDs and you get all the HDD stuff - including multiple volumes. Also, you can just check diskmgmt.msc (Disk Management) to see available partitions.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob that's KINDA what I said

7:38 AM

@Bob The TLS issue has gone away by itself this morning. I'm thinking ISP or routing or something ...

7:54 AM

@DavidPostill Or the OCSP responder just could've been slow :P

It happens.

Journeyman Geek

8:09 AM

oops

lol

sooooo. I haven't gift-wrapped anything in years. I have no tape. And it's not even in a nice rectangular box.

This looks terrible.

Journeyman Geek

8:25 AM

lol

Ok s/tape/superglue/ and "box" it in 125gsm card paper and it kinda works

the giftwrap paper looks vaguely rectangular

Journeyman Geek

shrug

Just bury it and give them the GPS co-ordinates ;p

hm, the HDD I installed inside phoebe dosen't detect

ugh. lettme get this up, use an external drive for storage, then deal with this later.

I have like 10 types of glue, half epoxies

and as many types of tape - packaging, duct, foil, duck, cloth, even paper tape

but none of the simple clear plastic stationery stuff -_-

@JourneymanGeek DOID?

Journeyman Geek

No

Was a known good drive.

8:57 AM

You know what?

After being a member of this room for so long I'm now paranoid that all my drives and backups will fail, even though I've only personally experienced drive failure like maybe once.

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OMG OMG OMG I WANT THIS

(cc @Avery)

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

This is so perfect

9:28 AM

@rahuldottech It's not paranoia if they're really out to (for)get you.

@JourneymanGeek any idea if matrix has a working wechat bridge? :P

family wants to set up a group. I don't want Yet Another Chat Service...

Journeyman Geek

@Bob er... Wechat? That is that Chinese one, right?

@JourneymanGeek ...yes

I think?

probably pointless since most will type in Chinese, which I ... can't read

Not sure if this was a waste of time, but eh:

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A: I'd like to ask a question about the lowest prices per TB storage service. Is this maybe something superuser should allow?

We don't do product recommendations because: The questions are not likely to help many people because specific use cases differ from person to person. The questions don't age very well, since software, prices, technology, hardware... Everything is constantly evolving. Where else would such...

Also, hopefully I said nothing wrong? @JourneymanGeek

Journeyman Geek

@rahuldottech seems fine to me.

9:48 AM

@JourneymanGeek :)

@JourneymanGeek was it whatsapp that you used?

10:20 AM

@Bob yeah

wechat/weixin is chinese

Journeyman Geek

10:30 AM

@Bob yup

marketing used it at job -1

@JourneymanGeek That reminds me... how's the job search going?

You need to update your profile description :P

'_'

Journeyman Geek

@rahuldottech took a short break

@JourneymanGeek cool :)

11:16 AM

WTF? So I have to give someone for a personal reference. The recruiter gave me a long list of occupations which included Dentist as a suitably trustworthy person. I gave them the name/address/phone no of my dentist ... and they tell me more than 2 weeks later "we are unable to use your personal Dentist" ...

I can understand not using a relative or close friend but this makes no sense.

Tomorrow will be fun when I go and complain to HR.

Journeyman Geek

lol

@DavidPostill I guess it has to be someone who's personally met you?

@JourneymanGeek I'm glad you find it funny. They can fire me if I can't meet their stupid requirements.

because I've 'known' you, for a number of years now.

I've also got letters after my name

And am a british citizen

And would be happy to list you as a friend, if that's what they need

Journeyman Geek

@DavidPostill you do realise I quit cause my workplace was making bizzare requests right?

11:22 AM

mrtabowers@gmail.com if you want.

Journeyman Geek

and personally, I think these things are strange

@JourneymanGeek i've had to give references for every job i've had, and none of them have Ever contacted them

@djsmiley2k Indeed. I have to have known said person for at least two years. And having lived abroad for 10 years I don't have many "professional" people I know who can meet the requirements.

I only know of once, where one was contacted, after someone was let go, to see if they were as weird in their old job, as they were in this one...

:/

@djsmiley2k Thanks for the offer. I may need to take you up on it.

I replied:
> I'm surprised as a dentist was on the list you gave me of people who could provide suitable references.

Please can you provide an accurate list of of who would be suitable.

11:24 AM

I'm fortunate that we're friends with a couple, who one of is a charted accountant.

so we go to her for everything like that

@djsmiley2k As I understand it you are not supposed to use friends for character references.

@JourneymanGeek Yes. But I don't have a signed contract yet.

Contracts are subject to reference/previous employment/crb/credit checks

It's the character reference - whatever that is - that they are complaining about.

Given the glowing reference I got from my old boss I can't see what the fuss is about.

He basically said "David would be a tremendous asset to any company and has my highest recommendation" and a load of other nice things ...

red tape :/

@djsmiley2k Exactly :/

Random Job Reference

user226528

@JourneymanGeek Hey, can you clarify something for me?

Journeyman Geek

11:34 AM

I can try

user226528

@JourneymanGeek You said you watch all movies. So, I was wondering if you could clarify something in the Iron Man franchise.

Journeyman Geek

I don't watch all the movies ;p

but yes, I have probably watched all the iron man ones.

user226528

Who the hell is this black military guy in Iron Man 3 and why does he act like he knows Iron Man for a life? He didn't appear in Iron Man 1.

Journeyman Geek

OH

They switched the actor for Rhodes/War Machine

lol

user226528

11:36 AM

O.o

user226528

Bloody hell! What kind of dumb director changes a white actor for a black one?

Journeyman Geek

marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/War_Machine

they're both black actually

user226528

vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/marvelcinematicuniverse/images/3/38/…

user226528

He is certainly as black as Pepper in this shot! (Pun intended.)

@Bob niice

11:40 AM

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user226528

Exactly.

user226528

Although, if pepper had only the black kind, my pun would have become a double entendre, right?

Huh. Whats wrong with red/green/orange/yellow/purple peppers?

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user226528

@DavidPostill Why do you think there should be something wrong with them?

@FleetCommand They don't fit your scheme of ~~people~~ pepper colours :)

Journeyman Geek

11:55 AM

Ok, this movie is pretty terrible...

as is the subtitles

@JourneymanGeek Iron Man 3?

Journeyman Geek

Guardians

Russian attempt to make an avengers style superhero movie.

user226528

Which "Guardian"? Galaxy or Ga'ol?

user226528

Never mind. Read your second message.

user226528

But there is a name for it: Ripoff

11:57 AM

Ah. I don't watch superhero movies. I don't find them interesting ...

Journeyman Geek

Oh, this is actually potentially original

the acting is terrible so far

I've got a too long list of movies I do want to watch ...

Journeyman Geek

the subtitles seem to be made with google translate

.... WHY ARE THERE MEN IN SUITS, ON TECHNICALS... ATTACKING A GUY IN THE MIDDLE OF A DESERT?

Its like, zero context

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