Root Access

>

The first 1 million monthly requests are free. After that, the pricing is as follows for all regions:
Price per 1 Million Requests after Free Tier (Monthly)
Standard Queue
$0.40 ($0.00000040 per request)

Journeyman Geek

Firebase does xmpp

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Not properly. It does REST too but the public APIs don't support offline messages.

Journeyman Geek

ah

offline messages is a "nice to have" but not critical

Bob

12:19 AM

@JourneymanGeek Why struggle with Firebase when SQS does the same?

Journeyman Geek

no idea ;p

Bob

I mean, you're not going to send >1 million messages a month right? :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

I doubt I will have the space for that many livecds

Bob

Well, requests. Multiple requests per message. But still.

If you expect 100... here we've got a factor of 10,000 extra :P

Journeyman Geek

Its worth explaining my process here?

I have maybe a half dozen RSS feeds active at any time

Bob

12:20 AM

@JourneymanGeek I think I already know your process

I just feel like creating a hilariously overengineered solution.

Journeyman Geek

qbitorrent will check every half an hour, and if something meets a entirely arbitrary set of rules, it downloads it. Then it will trigger off gntpsend (or something similar) ;p

lol

as opposed to a amusingly hacked together one? ;p

Bob

aws.amazon.com/sdk-for-net :)

Journeyman Geek

@Bob hm

I was also looking at pushjet at one point...

Bob

docs.aws.amazon.com/sdk-for-net/v3/developer-guide/…

allquixotic

@Bob Meow, meow, I'm a cow.

Bob

12:25 AM

Ah, even better! aws.amazon.com/sns

Dog

12:42 AM

Fuck

Bob

12:55 AM

blah

@JourneymanGeek FCM is basically required to get push notifications on Android

Dog

Fuck easter

I hate people

!!caaaaaaaaat

I need a caaaaaaaaaaat

Journeyman Geek

@Bob lol. You were trying to avoid that, weren't you?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Well, that and I have no idea how to make an Android app :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

It's not something I really care for, tbh

Java. Bleh.

@JourneymanGeek If free isn't a requirement... Tasker + AutoRemote can hook into FCM

Journeyman Geek

1:10 AM

lol

@Bob I think I have a tasker licence

Bob

@JourneymanGeek AutoRemote is a plugin... costs more over Tasker plain

Journeyman Geek

ah

hm

Michael Frank

That's the one thing I miss about using an iPhone at the moment. Application interactions.

Bob

?

Journeyman Geek

I think you gave me an idea

Michael Frank

1:12 AM

Nothing touches anything else... it's so frustrating. I have to copy and paste my passwords out of Lastpass like some kind of peasant.

Bob

Uhm.

keepass2android hooks into the accessibility interface and can autofill :P

Journeyman Geek

IFTT would work ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek ...that was literally the first thing I searched this morning. still have the page open on my phone.

The hard part is getting it to work with Toaster, I suppose

Journeyman Geek

I wouldn't necessarily need to get it to work with toaster though

Michael Frank

@Bob But I don't use keepass :S

Bob

1:15 AM

Oh, does it do toasts natively?

Journeyman Geek

or run two commands

Heptametrical

semi related: have any of you used KDE Connect?

Bob

@MichaelFrank Eh, then it's a LP limitation, not an Android limitation.

@JourneymanGeek eww :P

In my head, one of the goals would be for the two to sync seen status.

i.e. if you dismiss a notification on one, it should dismiss on the other too

Journeyman Geek

Ah

Bob

dunno what you actually want though

Journeyman Geek

1:16 AM

lol

Bob

it just came up as something that really annoys me about skype & steam... I have to dismiss notifications on every machine

Journeyman Geek

ah!

Bob

phone, desktop, laptop, other laptop... ugh

Journeyman Geek

I'm mostly ok with that

Heptametrical

Maybe your problem is you have too many devices :p

Michael Frank

1:19 AM

@Bob Oh, Lastpass works great on Android. It's iPhone that I'm currently frustrated with.

Bob

@MichaelFrank Oh, the other way around. idk then

@Heptametrical Just desktop + phone is already annoying

Journeyman Geek

@Bob I'm vaguely suprised something like this dosen't exist

or for that matter there's no more modern growl alternative

Bob

@JourneymanGeek There are... they just tend to be web services now

See: Push API

Journeyman Geek

ah

@Bob and in theory outside "I need to redo my glorious hack" and wanting to host everything myself for "reasons" ...

Bob

Or things like these

onesignal.com

pusher.com/push-notifications

The bigger problem is, well, platform lockdown. Whatever you use, it must pass through FCM at some point for Android.

They do have their reasons - one endpoint => less battery drain - but it's still annoying for devs.

Journeyman Geek

1:25 AM

hm

Bob

lol

boxcar.io

free for 200 pushes per minute

that's enough for you right? :P

Journeyman Geek

lol. @Bob github.com/irium/growl-win-8 weren't you talking about that?

@Bob yup

Bob

@JourneymanGeek ?

Journeyman Geek

when you did growl toaster - that's allegedly a .net 4.5 port of growl

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Eh... not sure. It looks a bit incomplete, and it might actually be a port for a winrt app?

idk

Journeyman Geek

1:28 AM

ah ;p

beats me I know nothing about programming and just bodge things together

Bob

hm no, mostly config changes

might be a straight auto-upgrade then

@JourneymanGeek also at this point I actually kinda like having toaster separate :P

made testing easier at least

Journeyman Geek

ah, yup

Dog

Flub?

bertieb

@djsmiley2k So after popping the drive in question back in the desktop and nuking the gpt (partition table); the other computer boots fine with it present now

Not sure why (unless the other UEFI really, really hated exFAT)

Dog

1:43 AM

@bertieb RAS Syndrome ftw

bertieb

But I'm chalking it up as a victory

Journeyman Geek

@Bob I also never did work out where the icons are supposed to be. the sender or the reciever ;p

but that's mostly me not bothering.

Dog

You put the HDD drive in the PC computer and nuked the GPT partition table using the OS system software?

Michael Frank

oh wow, why is the Google Books app for iPad so bad?!

Dog

Because iPad

Michael Frank

1:59 AM

Yea, but they completely forgot to localise this menu option "ParentalControlEnabled"

Bob

@JourneymanGeek icons? wha?

@Dog Because Google

Michael Frank

It's a badly QA'd app.

Obviously there's no store, since that would require a 30% fee to Apple on sales, so effectively all they offer are free samples and the option to download your library items.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob not important. ;p there's an option for including an icon in gntpsend but I don't really use that. Only really noticed it playing with the terribad android growl client

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Should work with Toaster :P

I did implement icon support

Journeyman Geek

yup

Bob

2:07 AM

Basically GfW passes me a binary blob representingan image (DIB? I think) and I write it out to disk (temp) so the toast message can load it

Journeyman Geek

ah

Application-Icon: <url> | <uniqueid>

Bob

More accurately, I pass the blob over to Toaster via base64/stdin before it gets written to disk :P

Journeyman Geek

Neither

lol

Bob

@JourneymanGeek You could try it out

Journeyman Geek

yup

;p

Bob

2:09 AM

I think GfW internally handles URL images by downloading them

Journeyman Geek

lol

AND THIS IS IN AN ANSWER TO MY QUESTION ON SU ><

2

A: How do I use gntp-send?

I guess it is a little late but I have done up a simple man page. Can you take a look and see if it clarifies the usage? https://raw.github.com/psinnott/gntp-send/master/gntp-send.man NAME gntp-send - Utility for sending notifications to Growl using UDP or GNTP protocols SYNOPSIS gntp-send [...

anyway

I only use this for that one thing sooooo

Michael Frank

"Electric Vertical Take-Off Aircraft Successfully Tested By DARPA"

So... a drone?

bertieb

@JourneymanGeek too-narrow

:P

Journeyman Geek

@bertieb hm. Practical problem - I need to send a message, and the documentation sucks. Solvable ....

bertieb

@JourneymanGeek I keed, I keed :P

Journeyman Geek

2:18 AM

(and yeah, I'd think I was one of the only people to still use GFW but @Bob's plugin seems to be used by more than 2 people)

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Already at something like 5 stars, bunch of issues... there are dozens of us you! :P

@JourneymanGeek Do you use any libvirt management tool on Windows?

virt-manager is *nix-only, and virsh is ... well, it's good for simple things but I'd rather a GUI for some others.

Journeyman Geek

2:34 AM

Nope

Yeah. Nothing really useful on that front

Bob

@JourneymanGeek how'd kimchi go?

Apparently it comes with an IBM stamp of approval :P ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/linuxonibm/liabp/…

not sure if that's good or bad

Journeyman Geek

Spice viewer is borked. Randomly stops working...

Bob

> Kimchi depends on Ginger Base. So first of all, download and install it.

You will also need to install Wok prior to install Ginger Base and Kimchi.

... really

> WoK - Webserver of Kimchi

really

the puns

they burn

Dog

@Bob: this galaxy s4 LTE-A gets more disappointing by the day.

Bob

@Dog how so?

it is a first-gen LTE-A device...

Dog

2:41 AM

@Bob not only does the CA only support Australian bands as far as I can tell, but it stings knowing Samsung put in a much better SoC than the regular S4 and then failed to implement basically any of the improvements

Bob

hmm

@JourneymanGeek mist.io looks interesting

@Dog I'm not sure if it was even sold here -_-

Dog

Vs the regular S4, the improved SoC supports 2x2 wave 2 AC wifi, USB 3, Qualcomm Quick Charge 2, DC-HSUPA, DB-DC-HSDPA, 4K video, SD 3.0 UHS-I etc. None of which were implemented.

@Bob the irony. ..no wonder it wasn't a very popular device

It seems that Norway had the most recent carrier branded firmware for it.

It does seem to have better 1x20Mhz band 3 performance than the S7 though, even though the S7 has 4 antennas instead of 2

Journeyman Geek

3:13 AM

right. Going to start upgrading my windows 10 boxen

Supernovah

3:37 AM

Is this a place to ask questions like on the main site?

I want to know something that I could post about or just ask here if it's allowed: Question is, how do I connect to an xrdp session as the same user logged in on the remote computer so we can both see and move stuff around on the screen as apposed to creating a remote session which the target computer cannot see?

Michael Frank

You might get an answer here if the answer is simple. But questions are generally best asked on the Main site.

Journeyman Geek

@Supernovah totally a question for the man site

Journeyman Geek

4:09 AM

That was fun

temporarily broke the login screen of my main desktop ;)

Bob

4:23 AM

26

Q: Use xrdp to connect to desktop session

I use Ubuntu on my desktop. When I am away from my desktop, I would like to access the session using my Windows 7 laptop. Currently, I am using xrdp to connect, but it starts up a remote session. Is there any way to just use the same desktop session? I want to be able to pick up where I left off ...

Bob

5:06 AM

@JourneymanGeek ouch. kimchi pulls in a lot of packages

Journeyman Geek

yup

hm, joy

the x220 keyboard seems to have keys in a row that don't work

Bob

@JourneymanGeek died of old age?

I seem to have borked the server I was installing kimchi on

Journeyman Geek

@Bob its not that old

Bob

@JourneymanGeek ... how did you install kimchi?

the service doesn't seem to be starting

After this operation, 2,273 MB disk space will be freed.

O_O

user226528

5:31 AM

After what operation?

Bob

@FleetCommand Removing kimchi dependencies to try again

The following extra packages will be installed:
  autopoint fontconfig fontconfig-config fonts-cabin fonts-comfortaa
  fonts-crosextra-caladea fonts-crosextra-carlito fonts-dejavu-core
  fonts-dejavu-extra fonts-droid fonts-ebgaramond fonts-ebgaramond-extra
  fonts-font-awesome fonts-freefont-otf fonts-freefont-ttf fonts-gfs-artemisia
  fonts-gfs-complutum fonts-gfs-didot fonts-gfs-neohellenic fonts-gfs-olga
  fonts-gfs-solomos fonts-inconsolata fonts-junicode fonts-lato
  fonts-linuxlibertine fonts-lmodern fonts-lobster fonts-lobstertwo

classic IBM

user226528

Those are a lot of fonts. Why are they removed in the first place?

user226528

Inconsolata, DejaVu, Droid, ... huh!

Bob

@FleetCommand Cause I did an autoremove, cause the first install was stuffed

but yea this is what it installed the first time around too

Journeyman Geek

@Bob you need to start wokd manually

and it didn't work the second time

and I kinda ran out of patience ;p

Bob

5:46 AM

@JourneymanGeek yea, I did, but it never opened a listening port :\

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

errors, I can deal with

Journeyman Geek

Its a bit shit? ;p

Bob

mysterious "something probably shouldn't happened but didn't", I can't...

oh, it worked this time

what?

@JourneymanGeek it's basically undocumented isn't it

...login

I don't have a password

Journeyman Geek

@Bob its mostly in "works for us" territorry

your usual login and password should work ._.

unless there's literally a root account with no password at all and nothing else

Bob

5:52 AM

@JourneymanGeek it's a scaleway vm. which is configured to be ssh by pubkey only

feels a bit dumb having to set one up just for kimchi :\

Journeyman Geek

lol

You'll need to

Bob

damn

I'd be happy if it were just localhost-only and didn't need login tbh

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

hm

@JourneymanGeek I actually rather like it

the host monitoring is interesting too :P

Journeyman Geek

yup

Bob

5:55 AM

I like it, but probably not enough to install on the real server

it also feels insecure :\

Journeyman Geek

does the spice console work?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I don't have any VMs yet

Journeyman Geek

ah

Bob

trying to figure out how to create one lol

they don't have very many included templates

and it's only ubuntu 14.10, 15.04 and 15.10

conveniently no LTSes -_-

> KCHVM0005E: Remote ISO image is not supported by this server.

:(

Journeyman Geek

6:19 AM

@Bob got it installed... error 502 :(

Bob

@JourneymanGeek kimchi?

which OS?

I just installed it on jessie

Journeyman Geek

fedora 25

which really should be supported

Bob

dpkg -i wok; apt install -f; dpkg -i wok

repeat for ginger-base and then kimchi

Journeyman Geek

Error logs look fine too

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I'm not using Spice, I'm using the novnc plugin

It works! :D :D :D

Journeyman Geek

6:31 AM

nice

Bob

lemme try spice

@JourneymanGeek Spice works too

Journeyman Geek

hm

Bob

Not sure how one would choose...

looks like it's a template option

Journeyman Geek

blah

Bob

what's the diff between VNC and Spice? o.O

Journeyman Geek

6:34 AM

it dosen't work at all

spice is supposed to be faster

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I had to remove all the packages I installed and basically start over

@JourneymanGeek Oh make sure you connect via HTTPS

Journeyman Geek

yup

the web server is running

Bob

@JourneymanGeek means nothing

:\

Journeyman Geek

I mean I can connect to the webserver this runs

but the webserver can't talk to the kimchi service

Bob

ah... hm

because I'm bored, I'll try on Fedora :P

I've never actually used the RHEL family

Hm. Can't do. No Fedora on Scaleway

user226528

6:41 AM

Hey, guys, in case you are bored, one of my buddies in Wikipedia say: Google Translate's German translation of "email client and personal information manager" is "E-Mail-Client und Personal Information Manager". ;p

Journeyman Geek

hm, one other possibility

its selinux

djsmiley2k

HOOOOOOOODOR!

/me looks in

Journeyman Geek

....

@Bob its selinux

annoyingly I can't just enable that port because they don't list it

and kimchi isn't turning up in wok

Bob

lol

djsmiley2k

when you look into the ad management software

and there's 5000 users with expired passwords :/

100 rep away from reviewing the edit queue myself :D

wait, it is 2k right?

Bob

6:46 AM

urk

@JourneymanGeek scaleway only has fedora on ARM... on x86 you can get centos -_-

djsmiley2k

@bertieb yey. Weird, but yey

so if it wasn't posting, you couldn't change boot device either?

how fun :/

380 to go :D

lol

@Bob oooh

'other acpi device' ?!

Bob

6:56 AM

@JourneymanGeek \o/

I'm still undecided whether I want to actually use it :P

^ when you take docker too far

djsmiley2k

@DavidPostill caught one - image tag! superuser.com/questions/822046/trouble-deleting-tiff-images

Bob

> phoebe

lol

Journeyman Geek

@djsmiley2k Ros is odd.

@Bob might find it handy for home use.

Rahul2001

@JourneymanGeek hm... What's ReactOS like?

Journeyman Geek

@Rahul2001 terrible and crashy

Rahul2001

7:11 AM

@JourneymanGeek ouch, okay...

djsmiley2k

Gah, queues full.

Journeyman Geek

@Rahul2001 development has been drama filled.

Journeyman Geek

7:27 AM

If you want to play with something new... Haiku is nice

Gypsy Spellweaver

Now here's a use of recovery that's out in left field.

2

Q: recover gnome-terminal tab that got disconnected from ssh connection?

Is there any way to recover a gnome-terminal tab that got disconnected from ssh connection? Whenever I get disconnected from the ssh connection in a gnome-terminal tab, that window doesn't respond to keyboard strokes anymore. I don't want to recover the ssh connection, just be able to still use t...

ssh recovery gnome-terminal

djsmiley2k

people just seem to almost type their question into the tag box

user226528

@djsmiley2k Actually, I blame the tag auto-suggestion feature.

djsmiley2k

yup

user226528

I think this feature must be made like Wikipedia: When somebody types or selects recovery, a drop-down box tells him: What "recovery"? "Data-recovery"? "System-recovery"? Like that.

djsmiley2k

7:44 AM

Yeah... maybe

Bob

> Of course once the split existed, some people made other rules to justify it.
Root was for the OS stuff you got from upstream and /usr was for your site-
local files. Then / was for the stuff you got from AT&T and /usr was for the
stuff that your distro like IBM AIX or Dec Ultrix or SGI Irix added to it, and
/usr/local was for your specific installation's files. Then somebody decided
/usr/local wasn't a good place to install new packages, so let's add /opt!
I'm still waiting for /opt/local to show up...

djsmiley2k

right now the synodnoms aren't visible enough either until you know they're already there

Bob

lists.busybox.net/pipermail/busybox/2010-December/074114.html

djsmiley2k

and I can't spell

@Bob heh, I've dealt with /home/$user/bin before too

a user writable location with +x

Rahul2001

@GypsySpellweaver imo, the tag isn't really required here

Bob

7:46 AM

@djsmiley2k That one actually makes sense :P

bertieb

@djsmiley2k Yup, was getting stuck before I could even 'enter setup' (although it said it was "entering setup", it just sat at the one screen indefinitely)

karel

@Rahul2001 GypsySpellweaver's edit was OK, so it has been accepted.

bertieb

SMART long offline test should be juuuust about finished though, so we'll see what happens with that

smartctl -l selftest /dev/sdd

Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error
# 1 Extended offline Completed without error 00% 17214 -
# 2 Short offline Completed without error 00% 17208 -

Burgi

morning all, miss me?

bertieb

Guess its okay?

Morning o/

Gypsy Spellweaver

7:53 AM

@karel Why are you rejecting data-recovery (with 1500 questions) to apply file-recovery (with 251 questions)? They should probably be synonyms anyway. All files are data, not all data is precisely a file.

user226528

@Burgi Hi.

Burgi

had my first night in my new flat last night

user226528

@karel I second that.

Burgi

slept amazingly!

user226528

@Burgi Didn't you move in like a couple of weeks ago?

Burgi

7:55 AM