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12:00 AM

must be review queue time

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2:46 AM

> It has acute toxic effects, chronic toxic effects, and if there are any effects in between those it probably has them, too.

3:05 AM

@qasdfdsaq WHY DID I HAVE TO WATCH THAT

MY EYES

Also sending a 1.1 gb file to adb via usb2.0 is no fun

3:41 AM

So all I have to do to unlock my bootloader is this

> getprop ro.isn > /factory/asuskey

Very safe asus

Anonymous

@HackToHell because a. usb 2.0 is sloooow and b. adb is as reliable as a dyslexic in a spelling bee

Anonymous

I imagine what fun it is for you

@HackToHell it beats not being able to unlock at all..

trust me :(

4:28 AM

@Seth that sucks

@PatoSáinz Ha, it died only once

And I am on cm13 now

B-)

Shit's more stable than stock

Anonymous

cm is cool

Anonymous

it's the first thing I do when I get a new phone

Anonymous

I actually base my purchasing decisions based on how good the CM support for the phone is

Same here

See how active xda of that device is then buy :D

1 hour later…

5:45 AM

Hi. Will software like apcupsd tell me the state of my battery - whether it needs to be replaced?

6:01 AM

Bleh my stupid phone connects to the router as 802.11g instead of n

And I can't force from my router

6:19 AM

orange-choco-ceylon tea

o.O

well, it smells nice

2 hours later…

8:00 AM

> It can take up to 23 seconds, for the keyboard to connect to a PC because the correct drivers need to be loaded.

That's oddly specific.

Oliver Salzburg

8:13 AM

:D

8:30 AM

reddit.com/r/ooer #nsfw ?

Not cause of sexual content but cause of eye sore :D

Oliver Salzburg

9:07 AM

Is this process working for anyone? support.office.com/en-au/article/…

It just gives me a BS error message about being unable to verify the URL and when I google for it, I only find people that used the public URL instead of the private one

@OliverSalzburg You mean opening that link? I can open it fine here. Windows 7 64bit, Firefox 43.0.4 64bit.

Did you try the cached page? webcache.googleusercontent.com/…

Oliver Salzburg

@DavidPostill The process described on that page

Ah. Misunderstood :/

Oliver Salzburg

The .ics link in my Google Calendar is working fine. I can download my calendar just fine from there and I can also import that file into Outlook, but I can't open the URL directly in Outlook

And I assume that I would need that to have a continuous sync going on

I'm just interested in understanding this process, because we would like to offer a similar interface in our web application

Journeyman Geek

@Bob that's the exact time it takes to teleport the sacrificial chicken.

9:23 AM

@JourneymanGeek They let you out again? ;)

Journeyman Geek

Yup

Tho, waiting for a ride home. It's an hour either way

9:42 AM

@JourneymanGeek Did we run out of goats?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob too big? :p

Also I'm on my phone a lot. We have a ton of downtime.

10:41 AM

Bob's too big?

Journeyman Geek is down?

Classmate wants me to donate blood, sigh

I might be blackmailed into going

Your call could not be connected

Hopefully I throw up early when they do the tests :D

And thereby get kicked out

@HackToHell I find keeping my eyes closed and thinking about something else helps.

yeah, i need to keep my nose closed too

The smell of spirit also triggers nausea

I'm lame :D

10:56 AM

I donated about 50 times when I was younger. I gave up when they banned me because I'd been on holiday where there was malaria (and yes, I did take the appropriate pills).

11:08 AM

o0 banned cause you had malaria once ?

O_O

@allquixotic OVH is planning to launch a DC in AU this year

I wonder what the pricing will be like.

They're also doing one on the west coast of the USA, so that would be an improvement for latency for me too.

And one in Asburn, VA... that'd probably be great for you

11:21 AM

@Bob What an interesting educational video

@HackToHell Probably temporary. They also ban you temporarily after having gay sex.

Great

@HackToHell I didn't actually have malaria, it was enough to have visited a high risk area and be taking anti-malaria pills

It was a 2 year ban iirc.

@allquixotic o_0

Priority package spends 5 days in California then takes 13 days to travel from the US to Canada via Japan?!?!

Oliver Salzburg

Yay, we now have coffee mugs with our product name on them \o/

And a new coffee maker

What a time to be alive

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Your product name is Fairma?

Oliver Salzburg

11:31 AM

@qasdfdsaq FairManager actually. I should do a panorama shot...

Hah. Reverse panorama of a mug :D

Oliver Salzburg

I wonder how well that would work

Journeyman Geek

@DavidPostill choroquinine is nasty stuff

I was too late to get any pills before I went :-/

Journeyman Geek

@qasdfdsaq most of singapore is malaria free

11:40 AM

@JourneymanGeek Yeah, but the northern edge of Thailand isn't

@JourneymanGeek It was a long time ago. I have no recollection of what the pills were. I can't even remember where I went on that trip, must have been SE Asia. Perhaps Malaysia?

Malaysia is low-risk these days. Not sure about back then.

Cambodia/Vietnam are pretty bad still.

It would have been 20+ years ago or so

12:09 PM

@DavidPostill That's kinda stupid

@HackToHell That's not stupid at all.

Most of the temporary disqualification factors for blood donations are based on risk.

> You may not be able to donate blood if:
you have had a serious illness or major surgery in the past
you have had complicated dental work (it is safe to donate blood 24 hours after having a filling or seven days after a simple extraction)
you have recently come into contact with an infectious disease
you have had certain immunisations within the last four weeks
you are currently on a hospital waiting list, or waiting to have tests
You should not give blood if:
you have a chesty cough, sore throat or an active cold sore

@HackToHell I don't think the receivers of the blood would find it stupid. Contaminated blood can (and has) killed people (sometime many years later).

Journeyman Geek

"Happens to be an alien parasite which has taken over a human host"

@DavidPostill Would you rather die of exsanguination than risk having contaminated bloood though?

Journeyman Geek

12:25 PM

i.imgur.com/MloTVam.png stuff like this makes me sad

@JourneymanGeek Stuff like that makes my brain confused

Oh you have a mod button

Journeyman Geek

So, I do

I actually have many mod buttons

That's the first time I've seen one :-P

Me too.

@qasdfdsaq If I needed a blood transfusion I would hope that any blood given to me was uncontaminated. That is exactly why I didn't donate when I was told not to and why I hope people don't lie when asked the appropriate questions :/

If I knew I needed an operation I might even think about donating my own blood in advance for them to use on me ;)

I'm not a "jehovas witness" btw ;)

12:30 PM

@DavidPostill But if there was no uncontaminated blood available, and you had the choice of small risk of contamination vs. death, which would you choose?

> "some of our competitors are cheap engineers who have never been to a recording studio. You can't just stick someone's name on a headphone that doesn't know anything about sound."

^^ Said by the founders of Beats by Dre...

@qasdfdsaq <shrug>

@DavidPostill You would just sit there and shrug?

I'd figure it'd be an easy choice for most people.... small risk of (curable) Malaria or high risk of (incurable) death.

If I was bleeding out I think the A&E staff would give me blood whether I wanted it or not (assuming the Junior Doctor's are not on strike ...)

@qasdfdsaq 2 years feels like a long time

In any case the question was about giving blood not receiving it. Are you saying that people should just give contaminated blood and to hell with the recipients?

@HackToHell It may have been 12 months (which appears to be normal). Like I said it was a long time ago.

12:38 PM

@DavidPostill Then it makes sense ;p

Anyways I just realized that I am on rabies vaccine

So I can't donate xD

yay got off on a technicality

No, I'm saying donors should be allowed to donate blood that may have a small risk of contamination providing it is marked and treated as such. Any and all donations have some risk anyway, and when there is no objectively demonstratable fault with the donated blood, particularly given widespread shortages, it's better to have some than not.

Now I'll not make a fool of myself in front of the entire class

Similarly I'll happily eat foods marked as bad/expired if it meant an alternative to starving, and IMO they should loosen the rules on donating food to the needy as well.

1:07 PM

> Fill your room with powerful and loud sounds

I notice they didn't say anything about it sounding good.

My smoke detector can also fill my room with powerful and loud sounds.

(=> officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/…)

Party under the smoke detector?

@qasdfdsaq Hm... seems the other way around (party => fire => smoke detector) is more common, but I suppose reversing it works.

Any excuse for a party.

> Selfie Flash Light

?!?!

1:56 PM

s/Flash/Flesh

Journeyman Geek

2:24 PM

@qasdfdsaq funny you should say that

The army lunch I had kinda decided to make its exit from my system in a bit of a rush.

A lot of rules are overcautious but are there for a reason.

Though part of that reason might be "people are dicks"

@JourneymanGeek Yeah, many of the exclusions seem to be "dick" related ;)

Journeyman Geek

Expiry dates are based quite a bit on "The product almost certainly would not have deteriorated by this date"

But they're also a food safety issue

2:51 PM

@JourneymanGeek Donating blood tends to be, by definition, not a dick move though

And despite the exclusions, who is to say the donor wouldn't lie about having visited a country with disease risk for example?

That's why donations are all tested after the fact, at which point you can put the whole risk/no risk issue to rest because there's a precise result to tell you.

Journeyman Geek

@qasdfdsaq they'd need to destroy the blood etc etc

Flush it down the drain. Feed it to the rats/vampires/etc.

Tell the person to not come back again.

They test it anyway, and none of the risk factors are absolute.

They obviously exclude people with HIV, and anyone who's had sex with someone with HIV, but a good proportion of people living with HIV don't know it. They're not excluded.

That's why there's testing...

@qasdfdsaq LOL. "That's why there's testing...". Then perhaps only dead people should be allowed to donate blood. "The only way to confirm a diagnosis of CJD is by brain biopsy or autopsy."

100% of people with CJD don't know it and tests can't detect it.

ninds.nih.gov/disorders/cjd/detail_cjd.htm

@DavidPostill Wrong.

Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease

Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease (/ˈkrɔɪtsfɛlt ˈjɑːkoʊb/ KROITS-felt YAH-kohb) or CJD is a degenerative neurological disease that is incurable and invariably fatal. CJD is at times called a human form of mad cow disease (bovine spongiform encephalopathy or BSE). However, given that BSE is believed to be the cause of variant Creutzfeldt–Jakob (vCJD) disease in humans, the two are often confused. CJD is caused by an infectious agent called a prion. Prions are misfolded proteins that replicate by converting their properly folded counterparts, in their host, to the same misfolded structure they possess. CJD...

If you can get diagnosed, you can know you have it.

(Also your own quote says a brain biopsy can confirm a diagnosis... which again, lets the person know)

How many blood donors will agree to have a brain biopsy?

3:04 PM

It's used to confirm a pre-existing diagnosis.

> This procedure may be dangerous for the individual, and the operation does not always obtain tissue from the affected part of the brain. Because a correct diagnosis of CJD does not help the person, a brain biopsy is discouraged unless it is needed to rule out a treatable disorder.

From the wikipedia you quoted: "As of 2010, screening tests to identify infected asymptomatic individuals, such as blood donors, are not yet available,

Your point is?

That's absolutely no different from depression, autism, or various other neurological disorders. Does not mean you have to be dead to know you have it.

You can't test the blood of random donors to see if they have CJD. Which invalidates your previous statement "That's why donations are all tested after the fact, at which point you can put the whole risk/no risk issue to rest because there's a precise result to tell you."

Ermm, quit squiggling out of being wrong again

You said:

8 mins ago, by DavidPostill

100% of people with CJD don't know it and tests can't detect it.

That may be wrong but so is your ""That's why donations are all tested after the fact, at which point you can put the whole risk/no risk issue to rest because there's a precise result to tell you."

3:09 PM

No it isn't, once again you're twisting things around.

I did not say "blood tests detect CJD". We were talking about malaria.

Really?

Yes. Read the transcript again. Properly.

Contaminated blood includes contaminations other than malaria. Your first question to me was "Would you rather die of exsanguination than risk having contaminated bloood though?". I don't see the word malaria in that question ;)

I don't see anybody else mentioning anything about CJD carrying donors either.

Is CJD still a big problem over there?

3:14 PM

It never was.

There was a small outbreak of vCJD over a decade ago, that's about it

Hm. Estimated 1 in 2,000 is a carrier?

So not particularly high, but not insignificant either?

@qasdfdsaq Apart from you of course "a member of your immediate family has had Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD) – a rare condition that affects the nervous system and causes brain damage "

@DavidPostill Which you twisted into some rubbish about having to be dead to give blood.

Please read the transcript and look at what you posted ;)

Perhaps you should check your understanding of English.

"A member of your family" != "You"

3:18 PM

oh, sCJD is most common by far. whoops. ...didn't even know there were so many different types

Quite how you got from "You should not give blood if a member of your immediate family has had CJD" to "Then perhaps only dead people should be allowed to donate blood. 100% of people with CJD don't know it and tests can't detect it." is beyond me

@Bob Yeah, most people didn't know it existed at all before vCJD hit the news

Perhaps you should check your understanding of English. By definition a person is a member of his own family. A person cannot be a member of someone else's family.

@qasdfdsaq well, I've known CJD existed for a while, but I've only ever heard of vCJD apparently. And that's a apparently <5% of total CJD cases. So, yea, pretty low.

@DavidPostill google.co.uk/search?q="you+or+your+family";

"100% of people with CJD don't know it" is perfectly correct, as long as there is at least one person with CJD who doesn't know it.

3:21 PM

Again, quit trying to squirm out of being wrong. What you said was absolute tosh.

LOL.

Now you're trying to claim "at least one person" == "100% of people"

@DavidPostill ...that is kinda dodging the point there though. Member of family has had CJD => possibly genetic => you are at risk => you should not donate.

That's the worst nonsense I've heard all year. Blocked.

@Bob That's the thing. vCJD hit the news because it was transmissible. Before that, it was a rare and obscure disease nobody cared about.

Logic 101 seems to have bypassed some people ...

100% of people - 1 person != 100% of people.

3:25 PM

And even then the numbers were low, but the the very nature "Fatal, incurable transmissible disease from food" made it ~~news~~ panicworthy.

!!learn woopwoopwoop <>http://i.stack.imgur.com/K69Lk.gif

ChatBot John Cavil

@Bob Command woopwoopwoop learned

That's like saying 2 - 1 = 1

So much for not deleting bot commands histories

@qasdfdsaq huh?

3:27 PM

Dangit

o.O

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uh...?

19 hours ago, by bwDraco

@qasdfdsaq: Can you not delete chatbot command messages unless genuinely necessary?

o.O

3:28 PM

And

19 hours ago, by Tom Wijsman

@bwDraco Yeah. We shouldn't delete them... There are better ways!

tbh I'm not really fussed about that either way. But that bit above was just removing a broken learn anyway. followed by a fixed one.

I find clever how you managed to get a whole sequence of commands into one message, and delete and undo it all as well in the one message.

But I don't like people telling me not to do things that other people do all the time.

Why me?? :-(

...yea, I can see that.

@bwDraco any particular reason you object to deleting commands at the bot?

user image

If anything, it removes a bit of clutter.

And "deleted" messages aren't purged by default anyway, if someone tries to abuse the bot.

Speaking of which, I need to add proper logging sometime.

3:33 PM

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@bob "That's why donations are all tested after the fact, at which point you can put the whole risk/no risk issue to rest because there's a precise result to tell you." was what I didn't agree with.

@allquixotic You're using the JS/PhantomJS/Nightmare driver now, right?

@Bob Anyway it doesn't matter. It seems I've been ignored ;)

:\

I can still kick him though ;)

3:35 PM

!!trout @DavidPostill

ChatBot John Cavil

slaps @DavidPostill around a bit with a large trout!

:P

!!s/can/could/

ChatBot John Cavil

@DavidPostill I could still kick him though ;) (source)

nice!

!!s/nice!/awesome!/

ChatBot John Cavil

3:36 PM

@Dave awesome! (source)

@DavidPostill ...let's not joke about that kind of thing, yea?

@Bob OK ...

Hm. Anyone got any good ideas for a giant pile of crappy batteries?

Do they work?

I have a dozen really shitty NiMH AA and AAAs. And about 40 CR2032s.

@qasdfdsaq ...depends on your definition of "work"

the NiMH AAs might hold ~400 mAh for a short while

3:43 PM

Oh. Recycle?

the CR2032s "work" as long as you don't try to draw power from them :P

I was thinking giant bike battery like this, but that involves them actually working: youtube.com/watch?v=5EE4TsuzD_Q

@qasdfdsaq I actually don't have a battery recycling service nearby :S

Hm. I wonder if those shops with phone recycling boxes will take em.

Oh. I have one across the road. Ship them to me? >_>

Do you have the equivalent of WEEE?

Ah. Have a ton of 18650s too, but they're largely operational.

@qasdfdsaq Very very limited: ewaste-recycling.com.au/government-e-waste-solutions

Nearest one is 30-60 min drive :S

3:45 PM

> Local Councils have taken responsibility to deal with electronic waste for their areas and play an important role in the recycling of all kinds of waste products, like plastics, glass, metals and electronic waste.

eWaste Recycling’s drop off services are run in partnership with local councils across Australia

30-60 min drive to your "local" council? o_0

@qasdfdsaq My local council, and all the others around, don't do it.

They list 5 LGAs for NSW.

Dafuq

I think we have >100 total.

Then again, I'd personally use it as an excuse to go for a 30-60 min drive on my motorbike for the hell of it.

152: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_government_areas_of_New_South_Wales

though "only" 38 in greater metro sydney

@qasdfdsaq maybe if I had something else to do there. just to drop off a bag of batteries? ...nahhh

3:48 PM

I wonder if there's an easy way to turn them into something fun, like fireworks or something

@Bob Eh, when I was in Thailand I just went round in big circles for the hell of it.

Oh, there is one kinda local.

I'll get bored of it one day. Or die.

@qasdfdsaq Depends... bit of an inverse relationship between fun and clouds of toxic fumes.

> Household Chemical CleanOut events are held at various locations throughout NSW on specified dates throughout the year.

epa.nsw.gov.au/managewaste/house-chem-cleanout.htm

But you have the great outdoors...

...we have an EPA?

> *City of Sydney residents only - proof of residence required

nope.

oh cool there's a recycling centre the next suburb over ... wait, you need to pay for it

nope

3:53 PM

One of the few positive things about living where I do, I suppose

cleanup event on the 31st, 1hr drive

Do you have a car? Pick up some teenage girls and go on a "road trip"

lol

these are all events with funny timings anyway (one's in June)

maybe if I happen to have nothing else to do some weekend

but then I could install my ssd... and win10...

it's been almost half a year!

in the meantime, I can keep running the NiMH batts through charge-discharge cycles and see how low I can get them :D

hm. spot welders are expensive

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