Root Access

Journeyman Geek

00:02

@Psycogeek: I don't have a back yard ;p

(canine alterego occationally sleeps under the bed, and has to be ... extracted very carefully)

especially when he dosen't want to be woken up

Bob

@Braiam see above :P

Braiam

00:19

@Bob too lazy :/

Journeyman Geek

00:29

not sure if its spam or not, but is it just me, or is that website hideous superuser.com/a/747323/10165

Psycogeek

@JourneymanGeek I would call it spam, the site is in its early stages, and it does seem to "answer the question" in this case, But it is just as much a "link only" answer untill the user describes how?

WHen checking out software Rec, i noticed that almost every conversation and every load of BS about quality of the answers etc. Seemed to leave out the ONE main and most nessisary item for keeping out spam, and lists, and other things they say they do not want there.

And it is one of the things that is presented in the SE stuff to provide. "The users own experience" with the software. Out of hours of reading, Guess which Meta contributor of all the bums there :-) Included , mentioned that important item?

Bob

@allquixotic omniwhatnow

looks like InstantFox

allquixotic

01:06

►

Wasabi Fan

01:59

I have a Lubuntu installation. Just now I went to run some apps and discovered that some programs, such as VLC, have no readable text; the fonts were replaced with symbols like diamonds and clovers. Any ideas how to fix this?

Waffle's Crazy Peanut

02:09

Thank goodness, I had enough rep. to vote... :D

Journeyman Geek

:D

Waffle's Crazy Peanut

@JourneymanGeek And, Congratulations! I knew you'd have nominated (when I saw the my voting invitation) :P

Journeyman Geek

@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut: If I hadn't nominated people would be bugging the mods until the next election ;p

Waffle's Crazy Peanut

> ...*my statistics are quite impressive*

^^^ Real charm... :D

Journeyman Geek

@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut: I probably have twice as many flags, quite a bit more rep....

;p

Waffle's Crazy Peanut

02:17

@JourneymanGeek Agreed... Looking forward to your moderation ;-)

Journeyman Geek

@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut: ;p

Waffle's Crazy Peanut

Someday, I should start participating in these sites (I shouldn't hug Physics alone) :D

... at least for T-SHIRTS!!! :D

(and stickers)

Journeyman Geek

I'm looking forward to grinning maniacally like a muddy dog while sending spammers down to /dev/null

Waffle's Crazy Peanut

@JourneymanGeek Oh, look at that... poetic lines by a superuser induced by mod election...

Journeyman Geek

;p

Waffle's Crazy Peanut

02:20

A question -- Do you sleep?

You know, a real contributor (like me) doesn't sleep very well (even if he does, he gets nightmares!) :P

Bob

02:31

Journeyman Geek

I do sleep ;p

Waffle's Crazy Peanut

@Bob Wow.. My favorite :P

Journeyman Geek

people do ask me that a lot however

Waffle's Crazy Peanut

@JourneymanGeek Well, maybe because you talk to everyone! :D

Journeyman Geek

see?

Ash

03:31

;p

Waffle's Crazy Peanut

@JourneymanGeek Like I said, real charm :P

Journeyman Geek

oh ffs

the PSU for my mini itx box broke

its one of those tiny ones. I can get it running on a standard PSU for now, but I need to seriously consider moving it to a more standard case

Journeyman Geek

05:50

hmm

superuser.com/questions/747382/hacker-is-busy-this-very-moment meta?

Sathya

@JourneymanGeek not worth it

Journeyman Geek

Yeah, I suppose ;p

Sathya

@JourneymanGeek and I'm not certain he's trolling

Journeyman Geek

true

Sathya

06:12

new Firefox is.... ta da Chrome

Michael Frank

@Sathya ....yep!

deostroll

08:31

does a hardisk partition always have to be physically contiguous?

Bob

@Sathya I'll see how long I can stay on 28 :P

@deostroll AFAIK, yes.

You can have logical volumes and filesystems spanning multiple partitions/disks, though.

For example, in Windows you can have a single NTFS filesystem sitting on a dynamic disk spanning multiple partitions.

Thor

@Sathya A nice indication as to how much UI conquers people's thoughts over otherwise functionality and core features. :p

Bob

@deostroll Functionality is useless without a usable UI.

I'm sure there's plenty of functionality available here:

Thor

A. I believe you replied to the wrong user.

Bob

08:47

@Thor Whoops.

Thor

@Bob B. A usable UI does not have to feature much. By the very definition of usable, the expectations are rather low.

Bob

@Thor Not really.

Thor

@Bob C. As much as the UI may not be user friendly, it can be very usable to someone who has the required experience and proficiency with said application.

Bob

Considering a browser is what most users will spend the vast majority of their time in, even the most minor issue can be extremely annoying.

Thor

Sure, but is it usable?

Bob

08:48

@Thor Remember: we are talking in the context of a web browser.

Thor

Regardless! I'm finding it difficult to see exactly what part of my initial statement you're trying to expand upon with your reply (to the other user). Are you implying that the UI in Firefox 28 is not usable altogther, or...?

Bob

That argument does not apply.

@Thor No, no it is not.

"usable" does not necessarily mean "not completely broken". Even the most minor issues can cause someone to look for alternatives when they use it so frequently.

Wasabi Fan

I have a Lubuntu installation. Just now I went to run some apps and discovered that some programs, such as VLC, have no readable text; the fonts were replaced with symbols like diamonds and clovers. Any ideas how to fix this?

Bob

@Thor You imply that the UI is of no importance as long as "functionality and core features" are sufficient.

Thor

@Bob No, usable means "able or fit to be used".

Bob

08:51

@Thor Do you really have to argue this?

> Usability is the ease of use and learnability of a human-made object.

ease of use.

It's not black and white.

Thor

You're the one bringing up usability, I'm strictly refering to the black and white usage of "usable".

Bob

@Thor "usable" is not black and white.

Foo can be more "usable" than bar.

Where "usable" == "easier to use".

Thor

@Bob I would explicitly claim that UI is of minor importance provided it is not functionally broken.

Bob

@Thor I repeat: when you spend hours of your day using something, even the most minor issues can be too much.

Thor

@Bob If you want to argue that point, I would argue that it would depend on the context or comparison you're trying to make.

Bob

08:54

@Thor I was the one who said it needs "a usable UI". I believe I know what I meant to say, thank you very much.

deostroll

@Bob well I wen't with a 80 gb partition at first. This is a primary one. Its where my windows installation files sit. So its a primary partition. I kind of want to expand it with easus partition software. What are my options?

Thor

@Bob Now now, it appears you've got some sand in your boxers. No need to feel offended by other people on the internet. It is also irrelevant what you knew you meant to say, considering it is not you who will interpret it.

Bob

@deostroll move the other partitions.

Do note that this is a risky operation, and you should probably take a backup first.

@Thor You assume I take offense.

Thor

@Bob Absolutely, at some level. Of course, I am free to be wrong! Preferably so.

Bob

@Thor Excuse me? You're the one saying it depends on the context or comparison I'm trying to make.

And my usage of the word is perfectly valid (see the quote above).

You can interpret it how you wish. I will tell you now that you interpreted it wrongly, as far as my original meaning goes, and I am attempting to correct that interpretation.

I don't care to argue over word usage. I have made it clear what I meant by that sentence, take it how you wish.

@allquixotic Space Citizen? Try this: i.imgur.com/0fa4NOy.jpg

(Apparently that's Unreal Engine 4)

Higher resolution: abload.de/img/realisticrendering201gssdm.jpg

techpowerup.com/downloads/2369/unreal-engine-4-five-tech-demos

Thor

09:03

@Bob The context of use covers more than your own intentions, as I (as you so clearly emphasise) stated depends on the interpretation as well. Anyhow, you make a valid point - there is no need to argue over word usage, as it is petty as well. Let's agree to disagree regarding your usage of usable - as I believe "a usable UI" isn't the same as "a sufficiently usable UI" or "a UI more usable than Chrome's" or... etc.

If you will, to maybe steer back on track, what I was really wondering about was this: were you implying that the new UI in Firefox is not sufficiently usable to let users use the core functionality available? (Does that sound okay? Clear)

Bob

@Thor I wasn't even talking about Firefox.

I was saying a UI is no less important than functionality in general.

Thor

@Bob Cool!

@Bob I think it's nuanced, and hard to find a sweet spot for it. Clearly though, as you point out, for a web browser it is incredibly important if you're seeking a big userbase.

Bob

@Thor Keep in mind that not every sentence should be read literally.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: that looks SMOKING hot with oneliner

joejoe31b

09:28

@Sathya What version of Firefox are you running? I'm using Aurora (the pre-beta version of Firefox) and I absolutely love it.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Hm?

Awal Garg

What if a superhuman comes to earth. capable of making fire balls, he makes one blasts it in air. some lucky guy records it in his mobile. the superhuman goes. none believes him. is it possible to tell that the clip he recorded is real?

and not edited?

the clip looks exactly like a movie scene

Bob

@AwalGarg You're asking for an analysis of the veracity of a video recorded from a phone in a hypothetical and highly unlikely scenario...

Anyway, humans can make fireballs.

Awal Garg

@Bob I said, let it be so. Then, is it possible?

@Bob superhumans, I say.

Journeyman Geek

Awal Garg

09:36

@JourneymanGeek whats that browser?

:15231115 where?

Journeyman Geek

@AwalGarg: latest firefox + the onliner addon

Sathya

@joejoe31b I'm on 29

Bob

Fire breathing

Fire breathing is the act of creating a plume of fire by breathing a stream of fuel over an open flame. It can be a dangerous activitiy but the proper technique and the correct fuel reduces the risk of injury. Performance Fire breathing is performed by both professionals and non-professionals. Professional fire breathers usually incorporate the fire performance skill within a show where other fire skills are performed. The element of danger in performing fire breathing and other fire skills enhances the entertainment spectacle for many audience members. Training The vast majori...

Awal Garg

@JourneymanGeek oh. its looking really nice btw

@Bob yeah, thats what I said. Lets replace superhuman with a dinosaur. Now?

I mean, if someone catches some unusual activity in a clip, one thats impossible to believe, how would the owner of the clip prove that it is true?

given that, it never occurs again.

Leathe

@JourneymanGeek onliner addon?

Psycogeek

09:49

@AwalGarg Given that it never occurs again, the simplest answer is usually the correct one :-) it was all BS to begin with.

Awal Garg

@Psycogeek whats BS?

Psycogeek

stuff found on the ground in the bull pen after passing through the bull behind :-)

Journeyman Geek

addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/prospector-oneLiner

Psycogeek

Often also seen in cults , politics, and conspiracy theories

Journeyman Geek

@Leathe ^^^^^^

Awal Garg

09:51

@Psycogeek What do you mean by the simplest answer is usually the correct one which correct one?

Journeyman Geek

(you need to hit f10 to get the menu up, for opening shortcuts and the like)

Leathe

hm. Imma check that out

Psycogeek

@AwalGarg That is a saying, often things that are blown out of perportion, percieved by some nutcase, or portrayed on youtube, are answered by the most simple explainination, not the far fetched ones.

Leathe

@JourneymanGeek I suppose Alt works as well?

Journeyman Geek

yup

The older UI had the FF button which did much the same thing as the menu

Awal Garg

09:55

@Psycogeek oh, I almost thought you were trying to give a nice answer...

Sathya

sigh

#yindians.

Who told u,i copied the answer,i even not see the any answer,only give my answer till any answer mark helpful by asker ! OK? — SSAURABHH 1 min ago

Psycogeek

@AwalGarg Lets say you saw a fire breathing dragon. and the question is was it Real, or was it fake? How likely is it to be real? how much fun would it be to be real? What is the simplest answer? Gee that a Fire breathing dragon has existed on the planet for 10,000 years and nobody else saw it but the entertainters.

Awal Garg

@Psycogeek maybe it lives on some other planet unknown to man and came for an evening walk?

Leathe

huh. this actually works pretty well with Tab Scope

Psycogeek

OOps farudian slip, enterTainters :-)

@AwalGarg And that is the simplest answer? then that is likely to be the truth.

Awal Garg

09:58

@Psycogeek so, you mean, there is actually no means (atleast no feasible one) to prove that the clip is real on logical basis, like technology, maths or something...

Journeyman Geek

@AwalGarg: erm... at this point, you're really reaching

Awal Garg

@JourneymanGeek reaching what?

Journeyman Geek

A point of pointlessness perhaps ;p

and generally no, trust nothing you see.

Awal Garg

sorry I am not verse with the common speech of english in us or uk :(

Psycogeek

@AwalGarg None that i know of that could determine one set of pixels generated, from a set of pixels that were originally captured by light sencors in a cam? not anymore. Besides many of the greatest hoaxes in history were some of the lamest things done.

Awal Garg

10:00

@Psycogeek example?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Problem with the Hero pen :P

massive ink leak

maybe related to heat (trapped air + heat = expansion, + ink = lots of ink everywhere)

Journeyman Geek

;p

I might have hinted at it being leaky in the past?

Psycogeek

@AwalGarg Perpertual motion machines. They date Way way back, where a crappy wooden flywheel contraption was used much the same way as done today, to do what they have done now for (is it) 50+ years?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Hmmmm :P

Awal Garg

@Psycogeek I thought there would be ways how FBI verifies a video. And the limits to it. And what do they do if they get a clip which is out of common sense but comes out real in their test...

@Psycogeek the RP Feynman one, I know about it. Its good, :P

Psycogeek

10:06

@AwalGarg Sure , and how much tv taught us that? I would suppose that an average person perpetuating a hoax would not be so elaborate as some CGI done for 1.2million for a movie. So a crappy photophop job, or adobee after effects whipped out to show some dude in a bigfoot suit , would be different?

Awal Garg

@Psycogeek That assumption is certainly wrong. I have myself practiced AE for about 1.5 years. On a shitty ATI Rage XL 8mb chip, I have rendered perfect visuals very difficult to catch by real eye (ofcourse on low res because of the limit oh hardware)

Psycogeek

@AwalGarg Sure and david copperfeild is great, do you think he dissapears things :-)

Awal Garg

@Psycogeek and, CGI is not done for 1.2million for a scene of minimal length. Either, the movie is Avengers (Avatar would be too much)..

@Psycogeek of course not.

Psycogeek

@AwalGarg Low-res then put it up on You-Tube by the time it gets through all that mess, who could tell anything :-) Persons might want to inspect the original, to veryify things.

Awal Garg

@Psycogeek my institute has tight rules. and FBI would catch that I suspect. And there are tons of them on YT already:P

Psycogeek

10:12

Just say it was recorded via these phones :-) not a one of them can make a descent picture.

Awal Garg

@Psycogeek haha, yeah, we have to take that in account.

Psycogeek

@AwalGarg The house owner here Clerks for some legal cases. Many times i get to hear bits and pieces of how a "computer is evidence" , I keep seeing that the opinion of that being solid evidence is ignoring a lot. But then again I think DNA opens up a larger ammount of abuse than fingerprints, via the "DNA Drop"

I still believe it would be harder to get your fingerprints on my crime scene than for us to get some of your hair and skin there.

Unless somone took your fingers with 'em :-)

All this new and high tech stuff is deemed to be more accurate, reliable and trustworthy. Like the dates on the files (oh nobody can change that:-). Such is the pixels of a picture or a moving pictures.

sammyg

10:36

is there really no terminal server alternative for windows that can act as an rdp (remote desktop) host?

i mean for those windows versions that don't have the remote desktop server built in, like windows 7 home premium.

are these users totally out of luck? they can't replace the microsoft terminal server with an alternative software, and connect to it from another windows pc using remote desktop client (mstsc)?

Psycogeek

@sammyg VNCs ? if you can move the mouse , type, see the picture , you can control anything without a terminal?

sammyg

@Psycogeek no vnc

need to be able to run mstsc (microsoft terminal services client) on windows 7

and connect to another windows 7

remote desktop

@Psycogeek the problem is:
windows 7 home premium: connects to remote desktop host only
windows 7 ultimate: can connect to another RD host, as well as become an RD host for others to connect to

so the server component is missing in all versions of windows 7 and vista, below the professional edition

Journeyman Geek

10:52

well a rdp server is on windows home premium since you can use it for remote assistance

but meh, there's decent alternatives to that

sammyg

@JourneymanGeek you're right! screw them! :)

hehe

Psycogeek

Yea i know about aspects of it not existing in home. I run only "pro" versions myself and still shut down MS remote , for being to well known. So I used 3rd party VNC even though i had it built in. Some people have said the 3rd party are better for some things?

Journeyman Geek

(chrome remote is very nice, as is nomachine)

sammyg

@Psycogeek ok, but third party? are there actually third party solutions that use RD/RDP that can act both as client and server?

@JourneymanGeek thanks! i will check those out.

@JourneymanGeek it's not for my personal needs, i'm just trying to figure out if there are third party RD/RDP solutions that can act as both server and client. i'm trying to provide some info to a user who's stuck with windows 7 home premium... poor guy :)

Psycogeek

@sammyg ahh to reverse the control? or to have both acting both ways always?

sammyg

11:01

i know that linux has RD/RDP clients... don't know about RDP servers though... but again, it's for linux... not for windows. there appear to be no alternatives for windows, except for upgrading to windows 7 pro.

Sathya

@Psycogeek how do you manage to use vnc

sammyg

haha

Sathya

so painfully slow

sammyg

@Sathya indeed

Psycogeek

@Sathya Tight VNC, lotsa compression, buttons to chage when stuff was or not refreshed.

Journeyman Geek

11:03

arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/04/…

@Sathya: within a lan its usable

in a wan environment, I rather remove my own kidneys without anesthetic with a spoon

Bob

> Most of the young officers stationed at the launch control center had never seen a floppy disk before they became "missileers."

Now I feel old.

Sathya

still not usable, at least to me

Bob

Which is pretty stupid.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: 8 inch disks... yeah you'd be ;p

Sathya

Chrome's RD is pretty fast, was rather impressed it was as fast as mstsc

Journeyman Geek

11:05

yup

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Well, I tool that as never seen any floppy.

Journeyman Geek

nx is pretty scary fast too

only issue is pretty high processor use

Psycogeek

@Sathya I do not know how MSes version is different (even), Didnt much think about it when every other 3rd party replacement for Ms programs worked so well. (with the still wonderfull kernal and bases system).

sammyg

is chrome rd safe over wan?

Psycogeek

I do not even use MSes file explorer GUI stuff much anymore. Q-Dir which runs quads of the explorer file interface , makes playing with 2 many windows , mich "better".

Stack Exchange

11:18

0

Q: New badge for answering popular question

I know people up-vote for many reasons, but I think when the number of votes is high it represents a question which people are either experiencing (such as a technical issue) or wondered about (such as "why / how does that work"). Can we add a new badge (or a bounty score or similar) which is aw...

feature-request

Psycogeek

When thier (rather nice) video player started loading up with web and ads, there had to be a better way to do that. better faster smaller more control (as in manual control) Media player classic went in ages ago. MSes thing sits there faithfully providing backup program, and gets opened about 1 time a year.

There is always a Large learning curve to use 3rd party, but once that is done, there is often little reason to turn back.

Oliver Salzburg

New rule for the next election: Answers to the questionnaire have to be tweet-length!

Preferably yes/no/lol

Journeyman Geek

11:34

lol

I'm personally not too comfy with the questionare format ;p

Sathya

@OliverSalzburg lol

Psycogeek

I see N00b spent a lot of effort to continue his work on kicking all the young blond females off the site :-) We certannly don't need any of those here.

Sathya

> sorry, @buscar but this is for Moderator candidates only

meta.superuser.com/questions/7938/…

Psycogeek

12:23

superuser.com/questions/747498/… <---see stuff like this and know it is probably going to be closed. I wonder if it instead should be tossed in a blog? or is this just a copy paste anyways?

Oliver Salzburg

Google is getting desperate

I just got this notification:

Bob

@OliverSalzburg I thought they were going to stop pushing G+ integration?

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob It's the first message of this kind that I got

"Someone just joined G+" OMGOMGOMG

sammyg

12:45

@OliverSalzburg have you ever used genie backup? contacted them via e-mail?

i think it should not be possible to add people to your circles unless they say ok to that

i get added to circles by people i don't know

people who pretend to be someone famous

crazy people

i block them and report them

Bob

@sammyg I stay off G+.

Oliver Salzburg

@sammyg Never heard of it

allquixotic

@Bob me too

I have a G+ account but it's as disabled as it can possibly be while still existing.... a ton of things on Android are like "I refuse to work unless you have G+!"

sammyg

13:11

@OliverSalzburg ok... so why would you want to say hello... that's odd

@OliverSalzburg i would report this user, or just ignore him

here it is: plus.google.com/111474236582392138358/posts

only two people have this user in their circles

it's probably some kind of scam

there is a backup program for windows called Genie Backup

the name of the company is Genie9, formerly "genie soft"

website: genie9.com

they do have a G+ account but that's not it

this is their G+ account: plus.google.com/u/0/+Genie9/posts

now there are other backup programs with the word "genie" in the title

but that account is just bogus

reported

and blocked..

Journeyman Geek

I tend to use G+ >_>

I actually like it cause its less noisy than facebook

sammyg

unfortunately google is too slow with processing these reports

@JourneymanGeek i can agree on that

i do have a g+ profile but i barely use it at all

Mokubai

@JourneymanGeek I'm with you @JourneymanGeek, FB is just idiots broadcasting stupid, G+ (my feed at least) is like a slightly eccentric news feed...

Journeyman Geek

@Mokubai: worse. I have lots of family there

and old people

sammyg

@Mokubai unfortunately, these idiots seem to have found their way to g+ as well

Mokubai

13:24

@JourneymanGeek I have family on FB too. Thank god they stay there... ;)

Journeyman Geek

;p

(though I have one ex girlfriend of a cool person I know who's on a circle called "Spams too much")

after filling my entire feed in one day

Mokubai

@JourneymanGeek Yowza!

sammyg

i read a blog post recently, and there was this guy who had problems with his internet connection, so he was without internet access for one day. he wrote that he had to spend the time with his family in the house... "wow, those are some really nice people" he said

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek the ex girlfriend is your ex, or your cool acquaintance's ex?

Journeyman Geek

yes

(the latter)

allquixotic

13:31

lol i'm glad you clarified; I hate it when the response of a "this or that?" question is "yes"

I get it that one of the two is the case, but you need to tell me which!

Mokubai

There is absolutely nothing wrong with saying "Yes" to that kind of question.

Journeyman Geek

or woof

2

which is even more confusing if you don't speak dog ;p

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek now woof I can accept

Mokubai

it forces people to parse their queries correctly

Waffle's Crazy Peanut

I wonder if anyone's having trouble with SE's openid...

I'm unable to login... O_O

Is this new? openid.stackexchange.com/account/login

^^^ haven't seen a link like that before...

allquixotic

13:35

@ThatBrazilianGuy wtf is going on with Sarava and your pro-corporation/govt "Internet Bill of Rights"?

sammyg

@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut check your password

otherwise use openid.stackexchange.com/account/recovery

allquixotic

yro.slashdot.org/story/14/04/28/2230244/…

Journeyman Geek

yay, I got google now launcher working on my old phone

sammyg

@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut no https://openid.stackexchange.com/ is where you manage your SE open id

you usually access it from the main SE website

Waffle's Crazy Peanut

@sammyg I mean, I've used openid before... But, this time - I'm seeing a password request

sammyg

13:38

@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut it might have to do with your web browser

try restarting it

Waffle's Crazy Peanut

@sammyg: Ah... It says that I haven't registered my email yet! o_O

Are "my logins" different from this one?

allquixotic

@Bob O___O tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-tablet-processor,3813.html

could .... could? could? I'm struggling for words. I mean. is it remotely possible that AMD could have a better..... no. it's not possible. is it? IS IT??!

sammyg

@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut what site are you trying to log on to?

@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut your login is your e-mail address and password you set up with SE open id

allquixotic

13:58

@Bob I guess the new AMD procs will briefly dominate the mobile space, until Intel releases 14nm later this year (unlike previous product launches, this Intel CPU launch will push mobile first, meaning that the desktop processors will be pushed back until after they're shipping their 14nm in tablets and small notebooks.)

I have no doubt that the 14nm based Intels will destroy AMD's latest effort to squeeze a bit more power out of the 28nm platform

Journeyman Geek

;p

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