Root Access

Bob

00:05

Crap, I think I'm actually stuck on 14...

Hrm.

That Brazilian Guy

00:16

@DarthAndroid One of the small perks of being an official government worker is that they don't fire you. Like, ever. (Well, technically they can. But is rare. And a lot of paperwork. It takes 3 years to reach "stability". But even before then, it's quite rare.)

Bob

Ooooooh. Wow.

Oh come on.

I know nothing about canvas :P

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: would a NUC Usb boot?

I'm kinda considering saving for one, but I suspect getting a suitable boot drive might take a while

allquixotic

00:57

@JourneymanGeek I'm certain it would; that's how I installed my OS

it's a standard desktop-like BIOS

not quite as customizable as an ASUS (ASUS includes absolutely everything on their enthusiast mobos) but it has a lot of settings even still

Journeyman Geek

ahh, good

yeah, asus biosen are overwhelming in a good way ;p

allquixotic

@Bob I defined an "antiAttackDrone" that seeks out attack drones and blocks them in, and put one on all four sides of the attack drone so he gets surrounded and can't chase me :) most complicated solution ever

I guess that's how I think: complicated

BGM

@allquixotic Hey, did someone just ping me? >
if you need a ringing endorsement of my helping-people-spec-systems efforts, just ask @BGM ;-) i've helped him with two systems now

Bob

@allquixotic Heh. Least effort here. I'm lazy. :P

Currently on the mario one

allquixotic

@BGM I pinged you several hours ago, not "just"

and I wasn't exactly expecting a response

was just mentioning to some other guy that I helped you before

helped that guy decide on a CPU

BGM

01:12

Several hours? Oh - the alerts don't arrive for 3 hours, that's right. Well, I'll attest that you are very knowledgeable, helpful, and kind! In fact, I am always surprised to see that you know what you know!

allquixotic

@BGM somehow he didn't even need you or @Bob here to back me up to decide to take my advice ;p

BGM

@Bob is another really knowledgeable fellow, in fact. I am also impressed at y'all's patience. If you ask me, I'm going to be all praise here... I guess that fellow saw that you know what you are talking about.

allquixotic

I'm still dealing with the aftermath of the Heartbleed OpenSSL bug, here

Journeyman Geek

lol

BGM

I was reading about that today - that's a linux issue, isn't it?

allquixotic

01:14

@BGM @JourneymanGeek too!

Journeyman Geek

and me, apparently but I missed all of it ;p

and I'm not entirely awake

allquixotic

@BGM yeah, it's a "Linux issue", but actually, OpenSSL is a software library that has its roots in the BSD UNIX operating systems

Bob

@BGM openssl

used on Android, too

and some programs on Windows

It's a library, pretty commonly used.

allquixotic

OpenSSL has large deployments on Android, desktop and server Linux, "the BSD family", and perhaps even some software on Mac OS X

BGM

@allquixotic I've spoken to him before too (yes I see him here). You are the folks I expect to see, in fact. There's another couple fellows too.

allquixotic

01:15

the code is VERY portable, so any environment with POSIX semantics (or even Win32 semantics) could be using it

I wonder if NGINX on Windows uses OpenSSL

Bob

> * After all, you're a tenured professor with a well-respected
* history of research - you probably don't know jQuery!

hehe

allquixotic

"fortunately" (or luckily, since this kinda thing could happen to anyone in theory) the Microsoft stack you're running is extremely unlikely to use openSSL @BGM

the next thing like this could in principle be in Microsoft's stuff; nothing really stopping it from being that :/

Bob

Ok, the DOM level is weird.

Trying to figure out where to start :P

BGM

All right, well, I just came to say hello. I have to go now. See you all later! (Maybe tomorrow - I have a third system for you all to help me with if you're willing).

allquixotic

see ya later, might see you tomorrow about that third system

Journeyman Geek

01:24

lol

I REALLY wish google play books would let you open local files on a phone

Paul

@nhinkle Could you hold this one too, the guy is not getting it: superuser.com/questions/739898/which-monitor-is-better

allquixotic

whoa @Bob O_O TIL

SHA-2

SHA-2 is a set of cryptographic hash functions (SHA-224, SHA-256, SHA-384, SHA-512, SHA-512/224, SHA-512/256) designed by the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) and published in 2001 by the NIST as a U.S. Federal Information Processing Standard (FIPS). SHA stands for Secure Hash Algorithm. SHA-2 includes a significant number of changes from its predecessor, SHA-1. SHA-2 currently consists of a set of six hash functions with digests that are 224, 256, 384 or 512 bits. SHA-256 and SHA-512 are novel hash functions computed with 32 and 64-bit words, respectively. They use different shift am...

the performance comparison numbers on Ivy Bridge between x86 and x86_64 O_O

Bob

..?

allquixotic

x86_64 is like 2 to 5 times faster than x86

Bob

Yea, that kinda makes sense.

allquixotic

01:29

pretty awesome... I guess it doesn't matter unless you're doing very high throughput crypto though

Bob

A bit more than I would've expected, but it's well-known that long mode offers performance boosts for wide integer arithmetic.

allquixotic

wait, if something like Spotify cryptos their whole media stream, then you are doing fairly high throughput crypto

that could make a big difference :)

Journeyman Geek

also, dosen't IB have some subprocessor for AES operations?

Bob

@allquixotic Hash functions wouldn't be used for that purpose.

And AES-NI is better for symmetric encryption :P

@JourneymanGeek AES-NI. Hardware implementation of AES.

allquixotic

@Bob hash functions are used in the SSL handshake though right?

Bob

01:31

@allquixotic I... don't think so?

allquixotic

@Bob the HMAC is based on a hash function, see the rfc

Bob

Ah.

allquixotic

the HMAC is for message integrity... it's what prevents people from flipping a bit undetectably in the message body

(I think)

so I guess the large data payload of a long-running SSL/TLS connection would primarily rely on AES-NI for hardware acceleration (if available), while the acceleration provided by x86_64 of the hash would only affect the very start of the transaction

you would have to make... a lot of completely separate SSL handshakes for that to matter

on a server I can see that mattering. on a desktop, no

I'm making a SHA2 key with 4096 key length :D :D :D total overkill

my poor little laptop is having to generate the CSR while doing a windows update, on battery power... lol

Bob

@allquixotic I was trying to generate a 2048-bit GPG key... on a server.

That was painful.

Not enough entropy...

allquixotic

heh

i'm moving around on my touchpad. tons of entropy

they consider mouse entropy to be fairly high quality, IIRC. and that's okay with me because i was just kinda moving it around somewhat unthinkingly, flipping between tabs, checking windows update, etc

Bob

01:43

Ok, the boss fight is confusing me.

How does one destroy the boss.. hmm.

I wonder if I can write a block on top of it.

Psycogeek

01:56

@Torben Gundtofte-Bruun there are at least 2 beastly coolers out for the 1150 socket that could air cool a standard non-overclocked haswell cpu almost without a fan. the noctura something 14 , a beastly heavy weight , and prolima weird half up half horizontal thing. Both of them in the $79 range, both could use 120mm fans.

I just go Find the "latests" wizz bang high end cooler that was tested at toms hardware. And the difference in cooling with the same noise, is oddly different. It must have to do some with proper tuning of the fluid (the so little liquid) in the heat pipes.

Some very similar Looking and weighing items, can have so totally disimilar ability to extract the heat.

allquixotic

@Bob I just learned from Wikipedia that the IGP in the Bay Trail-M chipset (which is what I have in my Yoga 2) is OpenGL ES 3.0 certified on Android, and there's a driver...

very, very tempted to attempt an Android-x86 install and dual boot

500 gig HDD, which for my use is plenty enough... I could shrink Windows easily to 300 GB

not sure if Google would let me use the Play Store, though. that much will be rough. since my app purchases are there

Bob

o.O

Oh yea.

@allquixotic I was looking through a catalogue of a local store. They had quite a few Atom tablets, running Android.

So, yea. The upcoming SoCs for phones should be pretty easy on the software side.

allquixotic

this box is basically the same CPU architecture as those, except it has a permanently attached keyboard and trackpad

Bob

(Still have to do the modem, etc., but at least the base OS should be fine)

I just want to see someone hack full Windows onto a phone :P

allquixotic

also, the same CPU design being used in this Bay Trail-M laptop is also planned to be basically shrunken down and cooled off (in terms of clock rate, basically, for the sake of power) and shipped in phones... so whatever ends up being done on Android-x86 will benefit my system too

what would be cool is if Intel (or a bunch of hackers) get a nice KitKat ROM going for Atom/BayTrail laptops

"Manufacturer being an arsehole and won't ship dual boot Android? just download this!"

although Android on a HDD will probably be like "wut... why is my seek rate so slow :/"

the little android character guy will get all confused

"this seek is taking 20 years longer than I expected!"

Bob

02:08

@allquixotic "wtf am I supposed to do with all this RAM?"

allquixotic

@Bob LOL

that too

Bob

@CanadianLuke Finished! :P

Psycogeek

The convo needed pictures :-)

Bob

Psycogeek

02:24

0

Q: Premiere Pro Files Randomly Fail with "Project contained a sequence that could not be opened"

Ok, so I have Premiere Pro CS6. I should say right up front that I've been having trouble with my Production Premium Licensing: It asks me constantly for my License Number. (I have an icon on my desktop which automatically copies it to my clipboard to save me hassle.) I've worked for days on a pr...

adobe-premiere

How Do I tell this guy that Adobees premiere program , makes perfect "demos" and then fails at everything else randomly every time , no mater what you do ? Without being mean to adobee for having the same crappy buggs in the program for 15 years straight , and since adding in 150 more features.

It's not like he asked for a software recommendation, but he should go to a pro video site and get one.

Paul

02:41

@Psycogeek "Oh and we can't only open 1% of common video formats"

Psycogeek

@Paul Dats cause its perfessional :-)

Not much of the "pro" stuff will easily drop in any ol video stuff. and "pros" know you supposed to re-encode everything into "special" codecs that are completly (cough cough) lossless and solves everything, then export it too in one of 3 possible formats , before it gets completely re-converted again for final delivery. It all makes perfect sence . . . to professionals.

Someday the developers will have augmentation, then i really can shove thier new codec up thier butts :-)

nhinkle

02:57

@Paul looks like it got held. He's q-banned now so we should be good now :)

Paul

03:30

@Psycogeek Yes, frustrating as all get-out. I end up using Blender even though it isn't optimal for NLE, at least you can open the goddamn clips with it

Psycogeek

I am now using Edius, grass valley stuff (was CanOPus). it is no less complex, only some "other codecs" are supported fully, but i am finnaly free of the bugs premiere had that only hit when deep in a full project.

HackToHell

04:02

technology.nasa.gov/NASA_Software_Catalog_2014.pdf

/me wants KSP to include more stuff from ^^

cool xkcd.com/1350

I missed this one ._.

HackToHell

04:26

:/

> Your browser seems to be running slower than usual

Journeyman Geek

is that a plugin?

OOH COOL

Sathya

05:30

@HackToHell builtin, cool

HackToHell

06:07

What's your startup times people ?

Journeyman Geek

this is on my laptop

Sathya

on my puny underpowered work desktop

HackToHell

I should remove some addons

Journeyman Geek

The worst my desktop does is 3 seconds

but yanno. If it didn't... ;p

HackToHell

07:43

Startup time is lower than 5 seconds in Ubuntu in the same system

Boris_yo

07:55

Any good transliteration/phonetic typing software for Windows?

I don't want to keep Google Translate tab open and look for it every time.

Bob

My startup times are ridiculously low for the amount of tabs :P

Though, last month was probably more interesting.

Oliver Salzburg

08:50

Hahah! I'm so witty!

Bob

o.O

Oliver Salzburg

Oooh interesting changes are coming to a Stack Exchange community near you O__O

admin

hello

I have a question:

How dangerous is it to store sensitive credentials in Google Keep, Google Task, Google Docs/Drive?

This is both a technical and political question.

All these services are accessed through HTTPS, however Google employees could access them.

The Privacy Policy of Google for those services is also a strong concern, any help understanding what's a stake here?

I just wanna know if other Super Users are regularly storing password or password-grade data into their Google account and how do you feel about it?

Journeyman Geek

@admin: As with everything, its a matter of proportion, and enlightened self interest.

Google wouldn't give access to sensitive stuff to just anyone

And its easier for a state-actor to actually steal your password

personally I'd rather not store stuff like that on something I don't control without decent encryption

admin

"And its easier for a state-actor to actually steal your password" is it really? stealing password requires really high skills

Journeyman Geek

09:04

@admin: not really

Your security is probably worse than google's ;p

Hell, if I was running anything sensitive on my own systems I'd be running around like a headless chicken

@allquixotic: there's already a x86 android fork you can install ;p

admin

Hmmm that's a moot point. My local data is encrypted with TrueCrypt in a hidden container

@JourneymanGeek Hmmm that's a moot point. My local data is encrypted with TrueCrypt in a hidden container

Journeyman Geek

As someone who is trained in the theory of securing data, you wouldn't generally give access to just about anyone

and ideally you'd need a second person in the loop

Bob

@JourneymanGeek enough people, though

social engineering attacks work alarmingly often

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: hence my mention of decent encryption

HackToHell

url.geoguessr.com/7cZ9 :P

Bob

09:09

@JourneymanGeek google employees can probably bypass the encryption

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: I mean your own

I wouldn't store a plain text file of passwords on say, dropbox or google services.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek ah.

Journeyman Geek

I'd consider storing an encypted file of it if I needed a backup

Bob

My current KeyPass db is on DropBox

HackToHell

I have my firefox password data in a an encrypted zip file in OneDrive

Bob

09:11

Local keyfile + master password, which should be more than decent.

Oliver Salzburg

cat /dev/random > ~/Google Drive/secrets.dat ...it drives them mad ;P

2

Journeyman Geek

I memorise my password ;p

@OliverSalzburg: oh, thats for level 2 paranoia

when I'm sure someone is trying to track me.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek That's the worst. It implies you have one (or a limited set of) passwords.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: erm, about half a dozen, and varients

Oliver Salzburg

Journeyman Geek

09:12

Also, I have everything tied into three sets of services it seems

Oliver Salzburg

Humm new RAM arrived

Journeyman Geek

fun fun

I'm waiting on my el-cheapo USB keys ;p

Oliver Salzburg

I'm waiting for more RAM and the SSDs! 8D

Journeyman Geek

lol. I have ... two systems to rebuild

my file server and the shared desktop

Oliver Salzburg

And you're rebuilding them... with USB keys?

Michael Frank

09:15

@OliverSalzburg people still use CDs? :P

Bob

@JourneymanGeek they might have SD cards internally :P

Journeyman Geek

@OliverSalzburg: The storage box will be booting entirely off a USB key.

Oliver Salzburg

@MichaelFrank Oh, for the OS installation! Yeah, that makes sense ;D

@JourneymanGeek Is it a FreeNAS? O_O

Journeyman Geek

I figure since they're on the way I might as well use the other one for a windows install

Bob

@JourneymanGeek if it's cheap, prolly won't last long

Journeyman Geek

09:16

@OliverSalzburg: oddly no. Ubuntu

@Bob: I'm hardly going to have any writes on it

I'll have swap (and I hardly need any swap) on the spinning rust drive

Oliver Salzburg

Can anyone recommend a low-profile graphics card with dual DVI?

Bob

@OliverSalzburg usage?

gaming?

Oliver Salzburg

Office

Bob

Does it have to be DVI, or is HDMI and/or VGA also acceptable?

Most motherboards now come with DVI + one or both of the others.

And they work fine with dual-display.

Oliver Salzburg

Well, I would prefer two DVI outs. The ones I'm looking at right now have HDMI+VGA+DVI

Bob

09:27

@OliverSalzburg You don't even need a card.

Oliver Salzburg

There is DVI+VGA on board on the machine

Bob

Then use that ;)

Oliver Salzburg

I don't like VGA :(

Bob

Unless you need particularly long cables or very high resolutions (>1080p), VGA should be fine.

Oliver Salzburg

It reminds me of the old days where displays weighed as much as a big tower case full of HDDs

The client already uses multiple inputs on his displays. I don't know which though. I wouldn't want to get there and find out that we can't hook up everything due to a lack of connectors

And his previous machine used two DVI connectors

Bob

09:31

@OliverSalzburg You can trivially adapt HDMI to DVI-D

And most monitors take DVI-D and DVI-A

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob Yeah, but then I'd still need a card with HDMI

...which wouldn't be 2xDVI. Okay, yeah, I get it ;D

Journeyman Geek

I seem to think you need a 2 slot card for 2x dvi

Bob

@OliverSalzburg newegg.com/Product/…

How much performance do you need? :P

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob Are you saying any of those will do? Because I'm looking at a similar list on Amazon right now

@Bob I don't know. And if I would ask my client, he'd tell me to tell him :P

This is almost 100% for office applications and web browsing

So, silent would probably be preferred over performance ;D

Bob

No idea about AMD, but with Nvidia any GT 4xx, 5xx or 6xx should be fine

x3x+ is better, obviously, but more costly

x1x is workable

Journeyman Geek

09:36

I don't do low profile cards XD

Bob

I believe my brother uses a 630, and he does some gaming :P

@JourneymanGeek Ya, not much choice there :\

Michael Frank

low profile? Can't beat a HD7750 ;D

Oliver Salzburg

I'm looking at a GTX650 right now which looks like it's as big as a pack of smokes

Journeyman Geek

the 650s are pretty small

DO NOT get a passively cooled one

IIRC they're 2 slot tho

Bob

@OliverSalzburg Here's a list of 2xDVI low profiles: newegg.com/Product/…

@OliverSalzburg That's probably far into overkill :P

Oliver Salzburg

09:39

@JourneymanGeek Yeah, but that would be fine. Why no passive cooling?

Journeyman Geek

MUCH bigger

See if you can find a 640

Bob

Eh, if it works.

Journeyman Geek

Ideally something that follows the reference design

asus.com/Graphics_Cards/ENGTS450_DC_SLDI1GD3 <--- thats on my shared box

Oliver Salzburg

The 650 has a fan

> amazon.de/EVGA-NVIDIA-Grafikkarte-Speicher-mini-HDMI/dp/…

Sorry for the German :P

I also spotted this one:

> amazon.de/Sapphire-HD6450-Grafikkarte-Radeon-Speicher/dp/…

Those things look weird

Bob

@OliverSalzburg newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814103236

Also probably overkill.

Journeyman Geek

09:41

@OliverSalzburg newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130796 looks plausible

@Bob: Thats a wierd looking card

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Remember, low-profile?

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob Looks big. Might be a problem length wise

Journeyman Geek

@OliverSalzburg: half height then?

Oliver Salzburg

@JourneymanGeek Well, yeah. They must be half height. But also short ;D

Bob

Yea, all GeForce GT cards beat the HD 3000

which is a good point of reference for "decent for general office"

Journeyman Geek

09:43

meh. And must come with a bundled pony ;p

Oliver Salzburg

The 640 isn't on Prime :\

Looks good though

Bob

Again - you really don't need a 640 :\

Oliver Salzburg

Well, I would prefer to get that HD6450, which is on Prime and looks like it'll fit perfectly. And it's passively cooled :P

And 2xDVI (yay)

Bob

@OliverSalzburg Ok, that one is underpowered compared to the HD 3000 O_O

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob Are you referring to the Intel HD Graphics or a Radeon card? :D

Bob

09:50

@OliverSalzburg The Radeon.

Oliver Salzburg

I'm not finding anything for "HD 3000" on Amazon

Bob

@OliverSalzburg Intel HD 3000.

Oliver Salzburg

I'm getting mixed signals here!

Bob

I'm using it as a point of reference because it performs well in an office environment.

@OliverSalzburg Integrated graphics.

Oliver Salzburg

Well, would the card be better than HD 2000? Because that's what's on-board

Michael Frank

09:52

Just get an HD7750. :)

Bob

@OliverSalzburg shrug possibly, but that's not on the list

@OliverSalzburg Probably slightly better.

@MichaelFrank Sure, if you want to burn power.

And have a noisy machine.

Michael Frank

My HD7750 is not noisy at all... o.O

Bob

@MichaelFrank It's noisier than a passively cooled GPU, or an IGP.

Meh. I still htink you can just convert the VGA to a DVI-A, @OliverSalzburg :P

But either way works.

Oliver Salzburg

I don't think I've ever converted from VGA to DVI. Only the other way around

Bob

@OliverSalzburg We're currently doing exactly that in our office.

Dual displays from onboard graphics (both Sandy and Ivy, and some newer Haswell)

it works well.

Einsteins Grandson

10:11

hi

how do i know if i have MS SQL SERVER 32bit or 64bit installed?

its 2012 version

answer

sqlandme.com/2013/04/22/…

;-)

admin

So I wanted to sync my TrueCrypt container with Google Drive however each time that I make any change to any of the files inside my 10 GB container, Google Drive will re-upload the whole 10 GB!!!! I'm syncing this same container with dropbox and it only upload a few MB corresponding to the changed bytes. What are your thoughts?

Bob

@admin Search for "google drive delta sync"

Einsteins Grandson

but what if i cant start my SQL Server

i think i uninstalled some parts of it so now its impossible to run it without them

;-)

admin

@Bob Thanks. So there is no solution for this right? Only solution is to NOT use Google Drive. Dropbox is much more expensive so I'm looking for another solution, I am already using Amazon S3, is delta sync possible with it? Eventually via DragonDisk software?

Bob

@admin Yea, no real solution. You're relying on their client supporting it.

I'm not familiar with S3.

admin

10:24

@Bob Yeah that sucks...

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob Okay, I'm listening to reason. I just bought an adapter :P

Bob

@OliverSalzburg The only catch is you want to make sure the monitor takes DVI-A/DVI-I :S

(I've yet to come across one that doesn't, but I'm sure they exist)

Actually, usually would be cheaper/easier to just get a VGA cable and use that input, if the monitor has one. Again, they almost always do.

Safer bet, since I'm sure there's monitors that only take DVI-D on the DVI port and require DVI-A and VGA to go to a VGA port.

Actually, seems DVI-D connectors on the monitor side are very common...

@OliverSalzburg Yeeaaaa... you might want to cancel that :(

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob Yeah, I bet it does. But my fear was that the docking station that's also connected to the display is using VGA and we can't switch it around or something

I was just on the phone with the client. His HDD died yesterday, machine wouldn't boot. I told him it's fucked but he may try to turn it off and on a couple of times over the day, maybe it'll work one last time and he can save his data. He tried, drive was still busted

So he takes the whole machine to some local computer shop and tells them about the problem. They hook the thing up and it boots right away

Michael Frank

@OliverSalzburg gutted

Oliver Salzburg

But they're just imaging the drive now and we'll set up the new machine anyway

Bob

10:38

@OliverSalzburg Well, shit.

Back to the video card option? :P

Or, if the mobo had DVI + HDMI... bleh.

Oliver Salzburg

We're going to try to make due with what we have now. If he really needs the extra card, I'll get it

I'm now trying to figure out how to get Windows 8 for this machine. This upgrade-only policy on the Windows Store is so maddening

Bob

@OliverSalzburg Slap an old copy of XP on there first ;)

Oliver Salzburg

I don't understand it. I purchased an upgrade on the first day it was available. You can download an ISO and install Windows 8 on a fresh computer with no problems. So, why exactly aren't they simply selling the keys to everyone?

But we're now going to wait for the computer shop people to finish the imaging, then take the resulting drive and copy it over to the new SSD and then try to upgrade that to Windows 8

Let's see how that goes

Oliver Salzburg

11:11

wtf. I tried to send out the Mac I sold through the Ebay interface yesterday. Their website was fucked (as always) and only showed me a gray overlay when I tried to order the DHL shipping thing

So I refreshed the site, tried in another browser. Nothing helped

Today I see that I apparently ordered 5 shipping labels and paid for them via PayPal

I guess this is one of the benefits of linking your PayPal and Ebay accounts

allquixotic

12:00

@Bob check the server cert on my website (that I sent you before) now :D

nice green https :D (not a green bar, though; it's not EV)

IIRC, for non-identity-verified certificates, you get a white https with a padlock icon; for identity-verified certificates, you get a green https with a padlock; for EV certs, the whole bar turns green

so technically what I have is more "assured" than, say, a free StartSSL cert

Journeyman Geek

12:28

@OliverSalzburg: windows 7 trial, then 8 atop of that?

Oliver Salzburg

@JourneymanGeek Does that work? Using a trial

Bob

@allquixotic FF doesn't do green

> This web site does not supply ownership information.

@allquixotic support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/…

I don't think it can distinguish between StartCom Free and Identity-verified

Journeyman Geek

13:06

No idea. I have an iso. I suppose it's worth looking into :p

allquixotic

@Bob wat? it told me it was identity-verified in Chrome O_O

that sucks. Firefox!!!!

Oliver Salzburg

13:21

What site is this?

allquixotic

@OliverSalzburg my site :P

Oliver Salzburg

URLPLZ!

allquixotic

i try not to publicize it because i don't have a blog up or anything interesting (used to, but not any more)

it's pretty much a file storage and media streaming box now... oh and all the other VMs for other purposes... but the container that's "for me" is kinda sorta idle

all my interesting stuff is on github/bitbucket/launchpad now

Oliver Salzburg

Are we GitHub buddies?

allquixotic

idk

Oliver Salzburg

13:26

Yes, we are. Everything is good

allquixotic

I don't think I have any "github buddies"

Oliver Salzburg

I remember seeing your Spotify thing, which made me think "Hey, maybe I should get one of those Premium accounts and just download all the things"

Which I then promptly did

allquixotic

13:47

@OliverSalzburg :D you used my Spotify downloader?

Oliver Salzburg

@allquixotic No, I didn't have a developer API key. I used a different one

allquixotic

oh.

getting a developer key is free for premium users though

Oliver Salzburg

Oh

sammyg

14:31

Would you guys say that Sublime Text is comparable to BBEdit or Text Wrangler, in terms of features and ease of use?

Oliver Salzburg

I haven't used any of those :P

sammyg

What's your favorite editor?

:)

Oliver Salzburg

I don't think I have one

sammyg

@OliverSalzburg Well what do you use then?... pencil and a pen? :D

Hehe... that's so old school...

Oliver Salzburg

WebStorm, Visual Studio, PhpStorm, Notepad++, UltraEdit, Notepad2, MarkdownPad2 depending on what I need to do

sammyg

14:33

Does any of you guys write code on a piece of paper?... and then type it in?

Oliver Salzburg

Oh, and vi of course :P

sammyg

OK, I see only one... two, three... text editors there.

Notepad++, Notepad2, and UltraEdit

The other ones are IDE right?

I know VS is but don't know about the other two.

I like Notepad++ and it's mainly what I use. What I'm trying to learn now... I don't do much coding actually. Not as much as I would like to. There is a lot of things you can do with Notepad++.

Oliver Salzburg

@sammyg The line between IDE and editor seems to be very thin these days

sammyg

True... but what editor can help me type HTML/CSS/JS faster, cleaner, with intellisense, auto complete, auto end tag, etc.

I haven't explored Notepad++ very much but it seems to be lacking a bit in terms of auto complete and such.

Oliver Salzburg

@sammyg I do all the HTML/CSS/JS work in WebStorm. Pretty sweet IDE IMHO

Journeyman Geek

14:41

@sammyg: check out sublime text

sammyg

Can you make Notepad++ use space characters instead of tab for indentation? Like you press Tab and it adds 5 space characters, instead of adding actual tab character.

Bob

@sammyg Yes.

sammyg

OK, cool, looks like I have more to explore in Notepad++.

Oliver Salzburg

@JourneymanGeek I'm pretty sure that was his original question ;)

sammyg

@OliverSalzburg I will definitely check out WebStorm.

Journeyman Geek

14:42

Which I obviously missed ;p

sammyg

Thanks guys! :)

Later...

Oliver Salzburg

Yay. SSDs just arrived

Journeyman Geek

that was fast o0

AsheeshR

14:59

A little help with RAM would be great here! superuser.com/q/740125/182708

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