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01:30
@PatoSáinz Only 3 hours until I can play DS2 :D Same day courier to my home was only a couple dollars more :D
Anonymous
lol
Anonymous
02:25
o_O
Arrrg Headcrabs, i hate headcrabs, only thing worse than hedcrabs is replicant headcrabs.
02:48
@Psycogeek Not headcrabs. Facehuggers.
Have you never seen Alien? D:
heh, pushed out something I started writing a month or three ago to my blog
03:38
@MichaelFrank Pffff hahahha!
@JourneymanGeek Show me
@MichaelFrank I have that one in my home aquarium.
04:35
nooo, not that
This
Next time get it right.
 
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@JourneymanGeek EBNF is surprisingly easy
@JourneymanGeek You have one of the weirdest use cases for homeplug I've ever seen.
@Bob: I do.
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There's almost no situation where it's better than simply running some cat6
@Bob: My apartment is |[ shaped. The two routers are on either end of the [
and I can barely get my parents to get the house painted, let alone lay down some cable.
@JourneymanGeek Wish you and your family a very happy holi
07:46
I can't think of any regular use cases for homeplug ;p
@Bob: so tempted.
@Bob: I would need to drill through a few walls though
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek No biggie, internet is a necessity :D
07:50
@Bob: this works well enough
;p
08:17
@JourneymanGeek i want pictures, you know I cant read. Gotta put pics of the units and show 'em plugged in and all on the blog.
its over 1000 words. And I wrote it a few months ago ;p
so.. meh
08:37
@JourneymanGeek happy holi dude
Can I see who votes me up or down?
So I will never learn who decided to do a serial upvote on me four days ago?
That sucks...
Will that person get a warning or something?
I lost 200 points because of it.
But I can see it is because of the serial upvote.
He or she (seriously? any girls around here?) should be warned.
I don't want any more or any less points than I deserve.
@Psycogeek My AMD build was finished last Friday. Once I flashed it with 1202 BIOS it worked as expected. No more red LED and getting stuck on reboot and POST. Thanks for helping me out.
@Psycogeek ASUS chat line was unreachable because it's US based. And it was closed because of bad weather conditions (it literally said so in the chat window). (They were probably closed for the day.) But I didn't need them. Links on ASUS website are still not working... and the new Support section is still only showing FAQs, still no download links for files... kind of sucks... but hey I'm done with it, my PC is running now. Again, thanks!
09:17
@sammyg that's a serious deficiency on their part. when what they're selling is that dependent on what you can't get. good thing you figured out the safe code to break into it. (-:
@Psycogeek Absolutely! Well... I think I will go for Gigabyte or MSI next time. I have four PCs built with Gigabyte boards. This was my first ASUS board, and the first AMD board. I'm impressed by AMD, and how much more value I get when compared to Intel. But I'm not impressed by ASUS' way of treating their customers, asking them to place a call across the great ocean to get phone support on components, not having a functional website.
The board itself is OK, but the customer experience is very much lacking. Especially for European customers.
The BIOS file was up for grabbing from places like Softpedia. But I didn't want to risk anything by downloading such a crucial part of the system from an unknown source or unreliable source. So I put together my own URL based on the information I found about the file and the path they use in the URL.
In case anyone needs it... ASUS A88X-PLUS BIOS files can be safely downloaded from...
Get both, but try the latest first. It should be stable, and not a Beta.
09:32
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Q: Just how much does a cab from Gatwick airport to Brighton prices?

user3427515Im going tomorrow to United Kingdom ( Britain ) . I did not reserve a cab , Im only heading to take-1 .

probably needs to be migrated to travel
10:17
its probably spam
10:43
Sometimes it is fun to fling poo into your neighbors yard (-:
 
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11:47
@JourneymanGeek Aww, how nice... ;)
Bob
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@JourneymanGeek Same message as before ;)
@Bob where's the female stalker?
wow, how is this not closed:
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Q: Service to allow Dropbox upload for non-Dropbox User

MichaelIs there a method or service that I could use to allow a non-Dropbox user to upload a document to one of my Dropbox folders without creating an account of their own? I get documents weekly from new contributors, many of whom don't have a Dropbox account. It would be very convenient if there were...

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@allquixotic '11
yay, snowday :D
the roads are covered to a depth of 25-30 cm (converted to cm specifically for you, Bob) in snow
and the plows haven't been by yet
btw @Bob, I ended up managing to repair my desktop that wasn't booting up... had to burn a Windows 8.1 ISO to disk because the USB recovery wasn't starting up properly. a couple bootrec and bcdedit commands later and I was booted again. no idea why it broke. probably an update
for a few hours after it booted up the disk performance was significantly degraded, but I think the RAID array was actually doing some kind of background task to fix the stripes.... probably got out of sync due to a power failure or something
Bob
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11:58
@allquixotic O.O
it's been fine now, close call, I thought the HDDs were going up... still, enough to scare me into buying two 4TB disks and create some redundancy with a RAID10
Bob
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@allquixotic Yea, after a power failure it's usual for at least a verify to run.
@allquixotic :)
should i get HGST?
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dunno
i read on /. that the story that talked about HGST being super reliable was working with bad data because they didn't have any HGST drives old enough to be liable to fail
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12:00
I have two Seagate and two Toshiba right now, with the Toshiba being the primary RAID 1
Incidentally, the two Seagate are randomly reconnecting now and then, with funny noises D:
mine are Seagate enclosure rips :P so Seagate has never updated their firmware
Bob
Bob
though that may be a faulty y-splitter for power
I put in their exact model number and serial number and Seagate was like "i dunno man...."
holy shit
> data center environments
that's a synonym for >$1000 per drive
Bob
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12:02
> The 6TB HGST Ultrastar He6 hard drives are now generally available.
Hm.
@allquixotic Excellent guess: storagemarket.com.au/…
Bob
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Though depends where you get it. $800: techreport.com/news/25980/…
still, for one hard drive, that's out of my price range -- and I don't need that much storage anyway
8 TB of usable space in my RAID array is about 400% more than I strictly need, which will afford me years of room to grow my storage usage without worry
Bob
Bob
Ya.
Though, it's brand new - give ita few years and it'll become more reasonable. Hopefully.
unless Thailand gets hit with another tsunami
Bob
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12:04
Still helium filled & sealed, which is completely different.
also, unfortunate that they have to use helium -- helium is an extremely limited and valuable gas because once you let it out, it's gone -- the government here was debating whether to prevent the sale of helium filled balloons
> Helium is a finite resource and is one of the only elements with escape velocity, meaning that once released into the atmosphere, it escapes into space.
if all our future HDDs are going to start being filled with helium, then they should really consider the prospect of recycling the helium as well as the raw materials of the disk
I don't want my HDDs to lift up into space :(
@OliverSalzburg at least then your data will be preserved for the aliums to find
alium: "what are these two creatures doing to one another?"
(as they figure out the encoding formats for your videos)
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@allquixotic Industrial usage of helium is likely still going to be higher than even a large number of HDDs
> According to helium conservationists like Robert Coleman Richardson, the free market price of helium has contributed to "wasteful" usage (e.g. for helium balloons). Prices in the 2000s have been lowered by U.S. Congress' decision to sell off the country's large helium stockpile by 2015.[89] According to Richardson, the current price needs to be multiplied by 20 to eliminate the excessive wasting of helium.
Helium is a chemical element with symbol He and atomic number 2. It is a colorless, odorless, tasteless, non-toxic, inert, monatomic gas that heads the noble gas group in the periodic table. Its boiling and melting points are the lowest among the elements and it exists only as a gas except in extreme conditions. Helium is the second lightest element and is the second most abundant element in the observable universe, being present at about 24% of the total elemental mass, which is more than 12 times the mass of all the heavier elements combined. Its abundance is similar to this figure i...
apparently the US government has a large stockpile of helium they're trying to sell off -- this is great for HGST, but embarrassingly irresponsible as far as letting kids waste large amounts of it in birthday balloons
if you ask me, kids' birthday balloons should be filled with hydrogen -- the perfect complement to the candles on their birthday cake, for a nice intense fireball for all the family to enjoy :)
12:27
@allquixotic: or they find an alternative - there's a few alternatives for higher storage densities
I managed to sneak a school report on that once...
what was it... heat assisted something. HAMMER
12:45
Like one my mom could use in terms of usability?
Anyone know of a web service where I can give others a place to upload files that I can view?
Ash
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@slhck their g-drive ??
@Ash They shouldn't have to install anything
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@slhck In g drive , you can upload from browser itself.
@Ash Ah. Do you have to have a Google account for that?
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yeah...
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13:21
@slhck SendSpace is alright
I prefer to set up my own, though. AjaXplorer is good.
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14:14
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14:58
@allquixotic apparently backblaze loves them. Have for years
I tend to get them too ;p
15:08
@slhck Trello.com
It's a list-based organizational website, but one of the awesome things is you can just drag files anywhere on your browser window to upload them as an attachment to the current list item, no questions asked.
I haven't found the maximum file size limit yet, but it's at least 10mb or so per attachment, I've been using it to organize a bunch of high-resolution photos.
You would create a "board", and then invite the people that want to upload stuff to your new "board". Requires Trello account, but no software installed
i am sure slhck knows of trello
and trello is meant for task management and stuff. not file sharing o_O
15:33
yes, happened to me too
bloody thing doesn't want a 34 character long password
@jokerdino where you trying 4 common words?
well in a way yeah. i was using a passphrase.
@Braiam Obviously he's trying to use the Correct Horse Batery Staple
@CanadianLuke there was a doge version of it doge2048.com
15:41
Hmm
 
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16:41
Laughing way too much after seeing that :P
Wow. Aside from brass instruments being all I can't play in a marching band... That's awesome
My network connection keep sending and receiving (windows 7). I didn't surf and download anything. any idea?
17:11
HORRIBLE f*cking troll... Comparing Macs to PCs, and saying PCs are more expensive
@CanadianLuke thumbnail chart shows a PC being cheaper
also, BS @ "most people only want to do word processing" - total bullshit - and at work I can get Office 2013 Professional for $20
also, Mac's built-in word processing has impeccable file format compatibility with .docx, does it? uh huh.
Crap
Well, I posted a comment on there
Ash
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17:32
why do they keep posting crap like this ?
@allquixotic Well, you forgot about the cost of constantly having to have your viruses fixed
@Ash Hmmm... It's not April Fools Day yet...
17:47
@Ash The battle for attention is causing a tumblrfication and 9gagfication of all the news sites.
News sites nowadays broadcast mostly non-news.
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17:57
on a different note , in a block device , (for instance a usb drive) can it only be written in a block ? i.e , if the block size is 4096 , and a file is only 512 bytes , what happens to the remaining space on that block ? @Bob,@allquixotic
Does anyone know how to link to a specific YouTube comment?
@OliverSalzburg all 0 of them, right? man, that's super expensive
Bob
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@CanadianLuke ...those figures are complete fucking lies
I'll tell you how much I spent on antivirus in the last year: $0
OS upgrades in the last four-five years? $0
to say nothing of the fact that, for web browsing, video watching and word processing, Ubuntu or Fedora is more than sufficient, and the only thing you pay for is the base hardware
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Though, the $399 figure is stupid, too
a laptop at that price... you'd be getting a celeron, or pentium at best
adequate for some uses (web, light office)
not really comparable to the mac
a more comparable laptop would be more $600-$800
18:02
@Bob the problem isn't that low-end Macs are bad; it's that high-end Macs are insanely expensive compared to their PC counterparts
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@allquixotic Just as compatible as LO/OOo is, I suspect.
@allquixotic ...I thought that was a mid-high mac
in fact, a $1100 Macbook isn't all that overpriced for the hardware you're getting
the only price range where Apple really gouges you is at the top
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@allquixotic depends a bit
macs are far less likely to be discounted
you can more easily pick up a one gen older computer with a pretty nice discount
but for cutting edge?
sure, the price is about what you'd expect for that build quality
> 2.6GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 3.8GHz
16GB 1600MHz DDR3L SDRAM
1TB PCIe-based Flash Storage
Apple USB SuperDrive
not sure what gen the CPU is, probably Haswell by now
@Bob Read my comment there (under CJBarone1)
18:06
other than the flash storage, I got a ThinkPad T530 with comparable specs and size and the same amount of RAM for $1150 less
and that wasn't with any discounts
I don't think the cost of a 1 TB SSD should make up the $1150 difference between a 1 TB 2.5" HDD and a 1 TB SSD, should it? because I paid a non-zero price for the HDD, and the SSD (plus the Apple tax) is $1150 on top of that
a 1 TB HDD runs about $80, so that would mean they're either overcharging you by a lot, or a 1 TB SSD costs $1230
I'm seeing them online for between $500 and $650, laptop form factor
so yeah, there's your $600-700 Apple tax right there, plain as day
and that's without any added software
@allquixotic is that anything new?
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@allquixotic Not their cost, but it seems to be a custom thing.
general consumer 1 TB SSDs do exist in other form factors, about $600. can't find any other pcie ones though
@Bob is it really going to cost that much to use a PCIe connector instead of a SATA? sure, you have to have some way of telling the OS "I am a block device" since you're giving up SATA/SAS (unless you're programming a SATA or SAS controller into the disk, which is stupid and broken like HP's inkjet cartridges with builtin nozzles)
but I got a sound card with PCIe connectors for $80, and that's the entire sound card plus the connector, so I don't think "it's PCIe" should add that much cost
in fact I don't even see the point of the whole PCIe SSD craze. I think at least SAS should be more than sufficient for high throughput, low latency, while providing a very standardized and well-debugged block device stack (and stable, well-tested drivers, yay)
SATA 6 Gb/s isn't too shabby, either!
my get-me-over space fix before Star Citizen comes out
...and Galactic Civilizations III >_>
18:22
... I just got a reply from the guy who posted that Mac vs PC cost comparison video!
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@allquixotic Isn't PCIe considerably faster?
@Bob SATA or SAS is basically just an interposing layer between the disk device and PCIe, since the data is still transferred over PCIe in the end -- the difference being that SATA or SAS provides standard disk commands already for you (well, you still have to handle the commands in the disk firmware)
long story short: your fancy PCIe disk still has to implement something that is functionally equivalent to SATA or SAS, if not in fact the same thing, so the best you can do is remove some of the overhead, but you can't eliminate it
it's almost like writing your own custom TCP protocol for downloading files, instead of just using HTTP
and no matter how smart Apple thinks they are, I wouldn't trust these early PCIe firmwares -- writing a stable disk firmware (and driver on the CPU side) is friggen hard, there are a ridiculous number of edge cases to consider, and lots of situations that can lead to silent disk corruption, race conditions, random data loss, etc.
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@allquixotic But the difference is the current newest SATA revision has a defined rate limit - which is lower than what some SSDs can burst at, and lower than PCIe's limit in newer revisions.
I don't think they've hit any physical limits yet - it's certainly possible for a SATA 4 to raise the limit by a fair margin, but such a thing does not yet exist.
Ash
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why write to blocks rather than sectors in a storage device ?
Bob
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18:37
Also keep in mind that PCIe supports multiple lanes, while current SATA is a single serial link.
@Ash ...what is the definition of "block" and "sector"?
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A sector is a physical spot on a formatted disk that holds information.
A block, on the other hand, is a group of sectors that the operating system can address (point to).
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@Ash No.
!!wiki block data
In computing (specifically data transmission and data storage), a block, sometimes called a physical record, is a sequence of bytes or bits, having a fixed length (a block size). Data thus structured are said to be blocked. The process of putting data into blocks is called blocking. Blocking is used to facilitate the handling of the data-stream by the computer program receiving the data. Blocked data is normally read a whole block at a time. Blocking is almost universally employed when storing data to 9-track magnetic tape, to rotating media such as floppy disks, hard disks, optical discs...
Bob
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read that.
read the first sentence.
Ash
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okay
Bob
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18:41
while a sector normally corresponds to a physical area on disk, a block is an arbitrary size - you can read and write in any block size you want
the disk interface and protocol (e.g. AHCI/SATA) will have its own logical block size, e.g. 512B
the disk itself can have its own physical block size, which is equivalent to a sector, 4K on newer drives
it will also specify a logical block size to be used by the interface
then the programs you write can choose to write their data in their own blocks
you can write a single byte at a time if you want, block size 1B effectively
then each stage will queue/pad/cut the data so it can send it onto the next stage
19:06
Abby T. Miller on March 17, 2014

Welcome to the Stack Exchange Podcast #56 recorded on Thursday, March 6th 2014, aka the 4th of Adar II 5774, aka the second day of Lent. Today’s podcast is sponsored by Patent Trolls of America. Today’s guest is Micah Siegel, Senior Patent Advisor at Stack Exchange and Professor Emeritus at Stanford.

But first, Community Milestones!

We’ve already talked at length about The Workplace, but it should be noted that the Workplace community has just graduated. They are now a fully-fledged site, so go check out their design! …

19:27
Is there such a thing as a "connected interconnected network" or is that just a fancy way to say network?
Yea, "Internet"
19:44
@Celeritas "connected interconnected" is redundant. there's no such thing as a network that's "connected" but not "interconnected"
@CanadianLuke heh
20:18
@allquixotic isn't it still redundant to say a "connected network"? If a network is disconnected then it is either no network or two disjoint networks.
 
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@Celeritas it's just semantics...
22:35
Wow, just wow.
I suspect a translation error.
'The pussy from saar' (Yes, not CAT, but that pussy). A childrens book.
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23:33
Ugh... Having an infected elbow is horrible when you work at a desk. :(
Anonymous
@MichaelFrank how?
Well I'm constantly trying to lean on it. :/

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