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Journeyman Geek

1:14 AM

Mornin

Bob

1:29 AM

@JourneymanGeek morning

(and it actually is morning for once! :P)

(if only by half an hour)

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

@JourneymanGeek take a look at the Lamy picture above :P

still looks 'bluer' to me :\

hrm. I made a big mistake with the rosewater

the smell is giving me a headache now

and it was 5% alcohol...

when i get home, I think I might flush this and remix some proper mauve (1/3 blue 2/3 red?)

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: where?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek uhh.. I pinged you a bunch of times last night (sorry :P)

Journeyman Geek

lol

for some wierd reason I can't find them, stupid thing just says 3 new replies

Bob

1:36 AM

9 hours ago, by Bob

the other pings were just below that

Journeyman Geek

ahh yes

Bob

I should get a better camera for this. and lighting. that's important too.

my scanner sucks...

Journeyman Geek

I'm just using my point and shoot, and natural light

mainly cause I'm lazy ;p

Hennes

4:17 AM

1

Q: Is the Atlantic network cable a bandwidth bottleneck between Europe and NA

I was reading about transatlantic telecommunications cables and it struck me that the only active cable connected to Denmark (where I'm from) from the US was the TAT-14. The TAT-14 cable being the fastest and newest (from 2000), it seems to be carrying most of all communication across the Atla...

I am tempted to answer: No, the NSA checkpoints are the slowest part.

Paul

4:40 AM

@Hennes You know how Amazon Glacier is a good archive solution - easy to backup to, but slow to retrieve

I was thinking we could use NSA servers as as similar solution

Just put "bomb" and "president" in your daily internet communications, and NSA will store all of your data for free

Hennes

5:03 AM

Heh

Journeyman Geek

retrival would be a PITA tho

you'd have to make a FOIA request they would turn down ;p

Paul

@JourneymanGeek I dunno, with people like Snowden and Manning around, it seems pretty trivial to get data out of the NSA these days

Bob

5:53 AM

oh fml

I just realised one of my courses next semester does PHP.

Kill me now...

Gowtham

@Bob Are you in your final year of college

Bob

@Gowtham no

Bob

6:49 AM

@JourneymanGeek Note for future experimentation: rosewater is bloody useless

makes the pen smell like crap, and only lasts a few hours on paper anyway

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

7:23 AM

on the plus side, the smiggle pens actually write really well now :D

nib is rather delicate, though

bends easily

Journeyman Geek

7:35 AM

is it the ink? ;p

slhck

@Boris_yo No, they can't check it, and they won't. They will wait until a representative of the copyright owner contacts them and requests removal of files.

For example a DMCA takedown notice.

There are whole companies dedicated to finding illegally uploaded content on file sharing websites, offering content owners the service to write takedown notices for them.

Other sites such as YouTube do fingerprinting checks to see if you uploaded something that was previously removed.

Bob

7:52 AM

@JourneymanGeek I have no clue :P

might try cracking open a couple of the cartridges and sticking the ink in a converter

I think it's the converter

@slhck Too bad those are so often abused.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: I used a syringe to do what with my plats ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek but I have like 50mL of black food dye, 60mL of black printer ink, 90mL of black printer ink (different source), 50mL of black Quink, 50 Poky black short international cartridges and half a dozen Smiggle cartridges (came with the pens)... not sure if it's worth the trouble of opening a cart when I have so much 'ink' just lying around

incidentally, printer ink tends to be reasonably waterproof. hrm.

Journeyman Geek

;p

Bob

ya, this'll last several llifetimes :P

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: I poured out a 'brush pen ink' cart into a storage bottle so I could try HOD on the pen ;p

Bob

8:00 AM

if I can find a good container, I'd send you a couple of random mixes just for fun :P

Journeyman Geek

probably will end up dumping it into a vpen ;p

Kinda annoying how ALL my pens don't use standard cartridges ;p

Bob

lol

Smiggle ones are surprisingly decent

Journeyman Geek

couldn't find them at the one I tried ;p

Bob

8:16 AM

@JourneymanGeek :\

Journeyman Geek

lol

there's another one nearby

Bob

..

why are there so many Smiggle shops in Singapore?

Journeyman Geek

ironically I was at the place with the fancy pen shop, the bookstore with the rhodia/clarefontaines and the bigass daiso more this month for work

Bob

and it always feels so awkward walking into one

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: more like singapore is SMALL

awkward?

horrifying

Bob

8:17 AM

the feeling of I really shouldn't be here

@JourneymanGeek it's always the bookstores..

(incidentally, Dymocks had the third best selection of FP inks I saw, after that shitty specialty store and that stationery store)

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: the best hardware store I know of is in the same area ;p

slhck

@Oliver Salzburg how is "Is there an XPS viewer for linux?" "not constructive"? — C.W.Holeman II 4 hours ago

Brilliant move, @OliverSalzburg :P

Bob

@JourneymanGeek normally wouldn't catch me dead buying anything in a Smiggle store...

Oliver Salzburg

@slhck It's what I always do. Switch around the close reason until they are silenced!

slhck

@OliverSalzburg Did you see the pending edit?

Oliver Salzburg

8:20 AM

@slhck Roughly 20 seconds ago, yes

slhck

I mean, nice intentions and all, but if it weren't so plain obvious that there's no research effort…

Journeyman Geek

taken care of ;p

also

SO user ;p

Bob

@slhck Remember, SE links rise very quickly on Google.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: I have a small niece!

Bob

Often, research is coming here.

And generally there are very few questions that are really too basic.

Journeyman Geek

8:21 AM

least thats my excuse.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek your anti-rainbow shield? :P

slhck

@Bob SE != Wikipedia List of XYZ software

Journeyman Geek

;p

Oliver Salzburg

@slhck I'll let it sort itself out. If the edit is approved and the thing goes through the reopen queue, fine

Bob

@slhck ya, but that question is easily changed to a how can I

Kwaio

8:22 AM

SE ?

slhck

@Bob Yes, but then it still wouldn't show any research effort whatsoever.

Journeyman Geek

stackexchange

Bob

@OliverSalzburg wait, I thought mod-closed couldn't be normally reopened

@Kwaio Stack Exchange

slhck

@Bob They can, like any other

Kwaio

yup, thanks.

Journeyman Geek

8:23 AM

Also note 'the SE trilogy of SU, SF and SO' ;p

Oliver Salzburg

I would have replied to the comment and explained to him how the question is NC, but I was on my mobile and his name was too hard to type. So I opted for reopen/reclose

@Bob Even better! :D

Journeyman Geek

The edit looks good, but would the minimal requirements part of the question still be relevant?

slhck

@JourneymanGeek That's the problem… even if it's in the question, nobody cares about that in the answers.

Which makes the question NC

> I think you should get Okular since it's the best XPS viewer for Linux

Bob

@slhck Huh. New change, or was it always like that?

slhck

If you get this answer you've asked the wrong question.

@Bob It's always been like that AFAIK

Journeyman Geek

8:25 AM

hmm

slhck

So either we start more aggressively deleting these kinds of bad answers, or we forbid the questions. The latter was more easy to accomplish—it sort of came naturally.

Bob

@slhck Ah, apparently it was deletion I was thinking of.

slhck

@Bob Yeah, that is still not possible.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I enjoy myself far to much squirting ink around with a syringe -_-

Journeyman Geek

looool

Bob

8:28 AM

Refilling is fun

slhck

I still have no problems with specific requests as long as it's apparent that there's no open-ended list of answers. I don't care about the wording in that case.

Bob

(trying to use it all up is, uh, less fun)

Oliver Salzburg

Bobtopus

Kwaio

Feels like chemestry lab ^^

slhck

@Bob Reminds me of my first refilled laser toner… what a mess that was.

Bob

8:29 AM

@slhck you can refill toner? O.O

slhck

Since that day, every page I print has black stripes on it.

@Bob Sure you can.

Journeyman Geek

I need to check which of my G2s need replacement

Bob

I really don't see that going well.

Journeyman Geek

@slhck: one of my printers did that, grease leak somewhere

Bob

Also, spills. That stuff gets stuck everywhere. And makes vacuum cleaners explode.

slhck

8:29 AM

@Bob As you can imagine the toner goes everywhere but in the cartridge.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: some laser printers just take a big jar of toner

Bob

@slhck Sounds like a damaged drum?

@JourneymanGeek Oh, separated toner and drum? I guess.

slhck

@Bob Possibly, but I don't need the printer anymore really. No university lectures or slides to print out :P

Bob

xD

Kwaio

How come i don't get a badge for deleting my own answer ? ^^

slhck

8:31 AM

That's how I enforced my paperless office. Didn't want to carry the damn printer three flights of stairs.

@Kwaio Only if it's scored -3 or lower

Bob

@slhck not sure if I'll ever get that badge :(

Journeyman Geek

lol

I came close once or twice

slhck

@Bob Oh, we can easily make you get one.

Bob

uhh.. I'd rather get that naturally, thank you very much :P

slhck

haha

Bob

8:35 AM

trying ot reintroduce paper here

want an excuse to use my pens :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

even at uni >95% of my notes are electronic

slhck

@Bob Pens? What is that?

needs to look up Wikipedia

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: I think I have a few too many at this point ;p

And I wierdly prefer to take notes on paper

slhck

Honestly the only time I use pens is to make a signature :/

Bob

8:36 AM

@JourneymanGeek eh, I type far faster than I write

and my signature (and handwriting in general) sucks

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: I tend to use wierd layouts, colours and sketeches ;p

not counting the fist sized wooden ball, thats nearly all the contents of my pencil case ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek 5 smiggle, one vpen and one safari so far

nice start to a collection :P

eh, G2s. overpriced things.

Journeyman Geek

lol

@Bob: pretty fond of them, they're pretty smooth

Bob

bleargh

take longer to dry than FP ink

Journeyman Geek

not likely to get any more tho ;p

@Bob: significantly better than ballpoints IMO

and they're about 2 dollars each, not too bad

Bob

8:39 AM

tbh I still like my Bics

Journeyman Geek

and other than that franken pen, they last ok

Bob

the Atlantis is honestly the smoothest ballpoint I've ever used, and pretty comparable to the G2

Journeyman Geek

not seen bics here at all

and probably switching over to the lamy for 'mundane' stuff ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek $4.56 ea here

Journeyman Geek

o0

bloody hell

Bob

8:40 AM

$46.30 for a pack of 12

Kwaio

Isn't bic an european brand ? Wouldn't be surprised if that didn't cross the ocean easily...

Journeyman Geek

I hope they supply lube too, cause thats SERIOUSLY overpriced

Bob

@Kwaio I'm in Australia.

Bics galore :P

@JourneymanGeek office almost exclusively use them. last time I did the stationery order... ouch

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: I pay about 2.15 for them

RRP

Bob

ya, that's not too bad

for one G2 i can get four Bic Atlantises

Journeyman Geek

8:42 AM

granted I think I can get red leafs here for 45 cents

Bob

(and my first one still hasn't run dry after a year, including exams)

Journeyman Geek

If I do another order at goulet (not sure if there's anything I want there), might pick up one of the noodler roller balls ;p

Michael Tanner

test

Journeyman Geek

but slightly doubtful, I only have a term of school left

@MichaelTanner: warning, DO NOT TAUNT THE HAPPY FUN BALL

Michael Tanner

@jou

fu .. sorry..

Journeyman Geek

8:44 AM

lol

yeah, it works.

Michael Tanner

@JourneymanGeek o.O ^^

Journeyman Geek

;p

Michael Tanner

but i have a question regarding some bash scripting

i think its better to talk here instead of posting a question

Journeyman Geek

lol

depends - asking questions is good too

Sometimes even if you find an answer here.

Kwaio

At least here you don't have to redact a full-length answer. Go ahead, i'mbored ^^

Michael Tanner

8:48 AM

ok ok here:

i would like to have some keyboard shortcut which pastes a specific content to the active window.. especially in chromium (textarea)

something like text blocks

but i dont know exactly how to proceed if it really works with a bash script

Kwaio

If you wish to enable this behaviour on all X-based software this is a bit broader than bash scripting

Michael Tanner

yeah i thought so

first it is necessary just for the browsers textarea.. but i don't want to use extensions

Journeyman Geek

there's some tools that might do that.

Kwaio

Which desktop environnement are you using ? (Gnome, kda, xfce, etc)

Journeyman Geek

wouldn't be an extention

Michael Tanner

8:50 AM

unity

(dont judge me, i like unity xD)

i already thought about using a python script or something like that

Kwaio

superuser.com/questions/238402/… maybe ?

I also belive the best way to go is through small programs like that

Oh man how frustrating it is to not be able to comment questions...

Michael Tanner

9:06 AM

:/

what do you mean with frustrating, @Kwaio?

Boris_yo

@Kwaio You can't t comment questions? Are there requirements for this?

Kwaio

50 rep, yes.

Which I haven't in any SE subsite.

Most of the times, i have ideas about how to help diagnose a problem, potential solutions, but not enough to deserve being written in an answer

And all i can do is wait to have grinded enough reputation to be able to comment questions/answers.

Boris_yo

Yesterday downloaded Animatrix. 1.4GB took less than 30 minutes with 1.2MBps. That's pretty good for me with 12MBps connection.

Michael Tanner

@Boris_yo yes, you must have a minimum of reputation

@Boris_yo i have 1 gb/s ^^

1GBps

flote

@MichaelTanner I'm seeing 1gbps connections popping up all around me but I'm stuck with ADSL both at home and at work :/

Kwaio

9:12 AM

We are not enven close to see that here.
Only lucky/rich people in big-enough buildings are provided fiber channel, and still have to share 100-400Mbps

(here = france)

flote

the city of stockholm built a pretty solid fiber infrastructure

and then let ISPs sell the services

more cities should follow their example.. swedishwire.com/politics/…

european governments love spending anyways, so why not spend it on something useful :p

Boris_yo

@MichaelTanner What? You have Google fiber?

Journeyman Geek

lots of places have reasonably priced, insanely fast internet

Boris_yo

@flote Wud up?

Kwaio

Imma export myself in sweden or something like that.

flote

9:27 AM

@Boris_yo work work :)

setting up a zentyal server for firewalling and captive portal etc.

Michael Tanner

@Boris_yo No, not Google Fiber.. I am sitting in the Switzerland and we have 1GBps in our office. We are our own ISP.

flote

@MichaelTanner did you hear from NSA?

Michael Tanner

@Boris_yo At home I have 150 MBps

@flote Not yet ^^

Boris_yo

@MichaelTanner You work at ISP?

Kwaio

@flote I had never heard about this distrib, it looks promising !

Michael Tanner

9:30 AM

@Boris_yo No, just Hosting/Server company.

flote

our building has 200/200 fiber drawn in to it, but the house owner and tenants can't agree who should pay the cabling out to all the apartments, so it's just sitting there

Boris_yo

@MichaelTanner And what's upload?

flote

@Kwaio yeah, I just recently stumbled upon it. haven't really tried it much yet, but it does indeed

Michael Tanner

@Boris_yo Home: 10MBps Office: 1GBps.. We have symmetric fiber.

Boris_yo

@MichaelTanner I guess that's seconds to publish YouTube video in 1080p?

Michael Tanner

9:32 AM

@Boris_yo yes almost.

Kwaio

Was funny breaking speedtest.net record @work when i was working at that big hosting company

Bob

@flote they're trying to do that with the NBN here

rollout started a couple years ago

good chance it'll never finish :P

Boris_yo

Weird thing about chat: when I have it opened in private tab on Android tablet, it does not get push notifications and I have to refresh chat. Seems like to do with permissions?

flote

@bob here = england?

Bob

@flote Australia

flote

9:38 AM

@Bob yeah, just googled it. I've read about that on slashdot. a lot of ground to cover :s

are they focussing on the major cities first?

Journeyman Geek

Ours is in place ;p

but we're tiny

Kwaio

Here, there's coverage all around the city, but they're not cabling building of less than 12 flats... which must be around 80% of them

Bob

@flote some

but we have a lot of urban sprawl

they actually tried to get a lot of the regional areas up first

cause net was really crappy there

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: what they did here was lay the backbone, subsidised early adoptors....

Bob

@Bob they're ripping out the copper here

Journeyman Geek

9:49 AM

I think it was free for us, 200 dollars for detached and semi detached properties

flote

this fundraiser isn't going too well indiegogo.com/projects/celeum

Boris_yo

@flote Not enough word of mouth?

flote

aren't they really overpriced? you get a lot of raspberry pis for the price of one of those

Oliver Salzburg

@flote Ouch

Bob

@flote It's far more powerful than a RPi

a 'lot of' RPis aren't useful in all situations

flote

10:02 AM

@Bob yeah, I get the 'PC' variant, but for e.g. the cloud version, I think a bunch of PIs would be a lot cheaper/flop

it's still really cheap for a nice TV-connected open source home/media server

but it's nice to see all these ARM mini devices

I think the domain server uses zentyal

Journeyman Geek

hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php

I wonder what you get for the price premium

flote

@JourneymanGeek haha, preinstallation for $120

it looks to be running pretty smoothly youtube.com/watch?v=O3v0ydCG2yU#at=43

Journeyman Geek

10:23 AM

its a pretty darned powerful device

flote

the ARM builds aren't available at the dreamstudio site (the celeum ubuntu based 'PC' OS)

Journeyman Geek

This is on a site meta, so downvotes don't mean much more than a metaphorical cone of shame. I do hope you keep calm and post on the correct site in future. There are checks and balances to handle people acting like idiots and bulk downvoting, thankfully — Journeyman Geek 15 secs ago

;p

flote

can't find the zentyal ARM build either, for the domain server. isn't it a GPL violation to sell these devices without providing the source?

I guess he hasn't started selling them yet tho..

Journeyman Geek

or gotten them working ;p

Ярослав Рахматуллин

Hi all

flote

10:40 AM

@ЯрославРахматуллин hi

Ярослав Рахматуллин

I'm suddenly annoyed by all tmux and screen questions. I don't get it. Why would anyone split their terminal into three or more parts?

Boris_yo

@ЯрославРахматуллин Привет

Ярослав Рахматуллин

хеллоу :)

Boris_yo

@ЯрославРахматуллин Watched The Matrix?

Ярослав Рахматуллин

Why do you ask?

oh the screen thing?

Boris_yo

10:56 AM

@ЯрославРахматуллин Yes, I am seeking some explanations. If you understand movie fully of course...

Kwaio

It's not about splitting only

The fact that you cna keep several terminals open even if you disconnect from the machine is quite handy

Journeyman Geek

its a way to multitask without X

Ярослав Рахматуллин

you can also have several sessions and without splitting anything

Kwaio

it also alows you to keep scripts running without nohup

And to use less SSH tunnels if you need several shells in a remote server

Ярослав Рахматуллин

But I see people doing that

Journeyman Geek

11:06 AM

why not?

Its no different from having multiple windows

and you can disconnect and reconnect the entire session

Ярослав Рахматуллин

Well, in all honesty I'd be confused.

I'll usually just screen -dR another session instead of splitting

Kwaio

Splitting can be intresting in a purpose of monitoring. showinf graphs, last logs, etc

But for interactive working, several windows are better imho.

Journeyman Geek

I think it comes down to differnt workflows ;)

I prefer one application a monitor

Ярослав Рахматуллин

Kwaio, yeah live surveillance

Journeyman Geek

lol

Ярослав Рахматуллин

11:15 AM

You're right though, J Geek

Journeyman Geek

you'd be surprised how impressed people are at text mode apps...

or IRC

Considering I use a gui client, with a reasonably non hackerish font

Ярослав Рахматуллин

GASP gui irc?!

Journeyman Geek

lol

hexchat. I like having tabs to switch between the multiple servers/channels I am on ;)

and I think I was using google.com/fonts/specimen/Droid+Sans+Mono

I switched to store1.adobe.com/cfusion/store/html/… recently

Bob

last time I dabbled with IRC, I was using the Firefox extension

Huh. It's still there

Kwaio

@JourneymanGeek Seems pretty nice, i'll try it @ home

Journeyman Geek

11:30 AM

@Kwaio: I'm dyslexic so I've been pretty much experimenting with fonts every chance I get to make things more readable ;p

Ярослав Рахматуллин

droid sans mono is not worse than dejavu mono and supports Chinese glyphs. score

Journeyman Geek

I find source code pro SLIGHTLY easier on the eyes tho

Ярослав Рахматуллин

I'm a fan of terminus, but it's good to change from time to time

Kwaio

On a slightly diffrent topic, has any of you ever tried ergonomic/vertical mice ?

Ярослав Рахматуллин

I used a MS trackball for several years. does that count? shareware-beach.com/photos/J1282752.jpg

What would be really awesome is a mouse with both a small thumb trackball and the usual optical scanner at the bottom.

Kwaio

11:41 AM

My girlfriend has joint disease and she is starting to have pain after a day of working with a regular mouse

Trying to find the most suitable device for her is not that easy

Journeyman Geek

@Kwaio: oddly enough, can't think of anyone who has

some people with trackballs

@Kwaio: superuser.com/questions/30769/… Ivo's post there looks good

Kwaio

Like they say, the best is to give them a try

Just found out zenlap, a specialized website offer 60 days full refund with incl. shipping

Journeyman Geek

11:57 AM

yeah

XD

Almost tempted to suggest a leap ;p

Kwaio

?

Journeyman Geek

basically a motion controller ;p

leapmotion.com

I'd wait for reviews tho

Kwaio

A word was missing for my understanding ^^

I haven't done deep study of her disease, but it seems she better avoid large gestures, or repeted gestures.

Journeyman Geek

nods

flote

the fruit merchant outside the office was playing with his phantom quadcopter with camera and VR display. awesome

Bob

12:18 PM

@JourneymanGeek can you suggest a new colour or mix? :P

Kwaio

12:34 PM

woot ! 50rep on SU

Can finally comment questions... now to grind in SF

somequixotic

12:46 PM

m.quickmeme.com/meme/3rihhy

Gowtham

12:57 PM

Creator

1:48 PM

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Q: Can't detect my external drive

I have a Buffalo Ministation HD-PCU2 external 500 GB HDD. It's formatted in ex-fat, since I need to use it on my Mac and my PC both. One day I accidentally unplugged it without properly ejecting it from my office pc. And then it started giving me weird issues. In start it sometimes couldn't get d...

windows-8 external-hard-drive osx-mountain-lion

Any help?

Gowtham

o0

cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity/2013/07/…

this is bad -_-

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: what do you have on hand? ;p

@Creator: I don't have much experience with exfat, but if there's a linux driver give that a shot

I often find that alternate drivers work when the stock ones don't

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