Root Access

Journeyman Geek

00:19

lol

darn ;p

headesk I am connected to the wrong system

Journeyman Geek

03:52

o0 candlepowerforums.com/vb/…

Bob

05:42

@Boris_yo To hold the battery down? To prevent user servicing (Apple?)?

Glue does look better than using screws, but it makes servicing much more difficult.

Journeyman Geek

o0

Bob

?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: and batteries usually outlast phones ;p

least nowadays

Its a long time since the 3310

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Well, the phone doesn't die... it just gets replaced.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: mine usually die

my dad's last phone suddenly stopped detecting a sim card, before I talked him into getting a new one so he could ditch his horrid contract

Bob

05:49

:S

Sathya

morning

Paul

@JourneymanGeek I use my smartphone as a smartphone, so it tends to suck battery. I have a spare in my pocket. I pop the cover when it gets low, swap in a new one, and off I go. Until phone vendors can maintain a permanent TCP connection over 3G for more than 18 hours, they should make batteries easy to swap.

Journeyman Geek

@Paul: I do too. lasts a day and half

data and wifi on all the time.

does want to get an external battery, but thats for a planned utterly horrible kludge

Paul

@JourneymanGeek With established connections - such as needed by IMAP IDLE and XMPP?

Bob

@Paul There are those external battery packs, though.

Journeyman Geek

05:50

cause I love those

Bob

Swapping a battery isn't great if you want continuous power.

Journeyman Geek

@Paul: I use XMPP as a notification system. Works pretty well client side

server side is amazingly ugly

Paul

@Bob Yeah, I tried that, it was worse than swapping, trying to hold a phone and a battery pack at the same time. I got an S2 because it was light, not because I was happy for it to be light for only half the day :)

Bob

@Paul MicroUSB extension cable! :P

Paul

@JourneymanGeek I mean leaving data on all day and keeping battery drain low is easy provided you don't have any permanent connections - they sip, and deep sleep is easier to get to. But I like to have permanent connections.

@Bob No. :)

Journeyman Geek

05:53

should probably try that but i'm a *little worried about data charges if i do this over 3g ;p*

Bob

You are lucky to get it to last 18 hours though.

Journeyman Geek

probably start an IRC connection and see what happens

Bob

I'm lucky if mine lasts 8 hours on 3G. With the screen on, though.

Journeyman Geek

o0

eh, screen takes up half your power

mine is VERY agressive about turning off the screen

Paul

@JourneymanGeek Ah... I don't use a lot of data, I just have permanent connections. Not many packets.

Bob

05:55

My screen apparently accounts for 32% of battery usage

Followed by 17% on Android OS, and 13% on mediaserver

what the heck is Mediaserver?

Paul

@Bob Thats my point, I don't get 18 hours, so I keep a spare battery. So phones without swappable batteries are not considerable for me. And I can also rant about an absence of microsd if you like :)

Journeyman Geek

53% screen

Bob

@Paul I would have to swap it three times for that :S

Journeyman Geek

lol, THAT is worth ranting about

Bob

And I'm the kind of guy who hates restarting for any reason, and will avoid it for as long as possible :P

Journeyman Geek

05:56

tho, my One V would not be very usable without a micro sd card

Paul

@Bob Yeah, you have to pick your compromises I reckon

Bob

Ah, MicroSD. I still rant about Samsung putting hte MicroSD slot behind the battery, exposing the SIM slot instead.

Of the two, I'm far more likely to want to swap my MicroSD. Without restarting.

Journeyman Geek

lol

@Bob: mine is behind the ANTENNA

which is on the rear cover

Paul

@Bob Yeah for sure. Though I am pretty sure they did it this way so you couldn't pull the card out whilst powered. Not sure why though.

Journeyman Geek

so I pop out the cover...

Paul

05:58

It can't be a mounted thing because it would hardly be unmounted safely when you yank the battery out

Journeyman Geek

most older phones had it on the outside

(even my dad's yari. which we use as a modem when needed. darned thing runs an outdated google maps which complains its not online cause it can't reach the T&C webpage... which google took down ;p)

Bob

@Paul You can eject the card via the OS, though. No option for ejecting the SIM.

@Paul And there is that :P

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: nothing too bad happens when you pull a sim on a running phone

other than.. er... well the last time I did it, i needed to restart, and prey thought my phone was stolen

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Except this particular phone won't accept a replaced SIM without a restart anyway...

Journeyman Geek

most of them don't ;p

Paul

06:01

@Bob Yeah I was considered the idea that most non SU users wouldn't think to eject

Bob

It just stays disconnected until the next restart. Which means it's pretty pointless letting you change the SIM without touching the battery.

@Paul TBH I normally don't bother explicitly ejecting (yes, I know it's bad...)

I just make sure there's nothing actively using it.

Bad habit probably from Windows always doing something in the background with NTFS formatted drives.

Which makes ejecting/unmounting safely more or less impossible.

Paul

@Bob Well you'd have to pull the battery, so you'd be inclined to power off the phone first I think, which would sync the sd card

Journeyman Geek

people actually do that? ;p

Bob

@Paul Every other phone I've owned that accepts SD cards (all Nokias, incidentally) do it the other way around - SIM change requires battery pulling, Micro SD does not.

Paul

I used to use an n900 and would routinely corrupt the fat partition through power off through battery drain. So I got into the habit of shutting down

Bob

06:05

FAT was never that resiliant :\

Paul

@Bob Yeah totally. I am agreeing that I don't get it.

Could be nothing to do with anything, and just where they had to put the card to get it to fit inside the case.

Bob

Could be.

Wouldn't have been too hard to have the card come out of the side, though (still behind the battery cover).

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: so did my dad's old SE

I want this engraved on my tombstone like the Epitaph of Stevinus.

Clippy

08:09

Super User Blog: Super User Review of Hyper-V for Windows 8

kronos on September 17, 2012

This weeks question of the week come from these two questions:

Windows 8 Hyper-V – how to give VM internet access?

How do I install and use Window Virtual PC in Windows 8?

One of them asked by Graham Clark, and the other is a self post by myself. This prompted me to do a more formal review of Microsoft’s Hyper-V for Windows 8.

Hyper-V for Windows 8 is really called Client Hyper-V. It’s similar in many aspects to the Microsoft Server’s Hyper-V (2008 and the upcoming 2012). What’s different about Client Hyper-V is that it was customized to fit the portable environments, such as laptops, that developer’s find themselves in. What does Hyper-V do? …

HackToHell

08:32

Damn chkdsk sucks

It just deleted the file i spent all night downloading

Journeyman Geek

lol

fire up recurva and see if you can pull it out from there?

HackToHell

Waiting for it to download <_<

Now waiting for the scan to finish ~_~

Bob

09:59

@HackToHell I do hope you aren't downloading onto the same partition?

Oliver Salzburg

10:25

Sweet. The SGS I revived yesterday, I let it run all night with WiFi on, only drained 20% battery (or so it seems).

Oliver Salzburg

10:55

6

A: Can a huge coiled LAN cable have some trouble for transmitting a signal?

I have done extensive testing at work with various cable and the answer is... possibly, but unlikely. It really depends how tight the coil is - with Cat 6, the chances are high that you could cause problems with even a slight bend, but, with cat5e, you could tie it in knots and I doubt there wou...

Nice :D

Bob

Nice to see you have 100m of Cat 5e just lying around to abuse, @WilliamHilsum :P

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob He works for an ISP to my understanding

This is somewhat sad: webapps.stackexchange.com/election?cb=1

Such little participation

Oh, I see now that only 1 position is available

So @Sathya can add another diamond to his gem collection :D

tombull89

@OliverSalzburg Evan Carroll is running for mod. snerk.

Bob

@tombull89 Isn't he always?

Oliver Salzburg

@tombull89 I was a bit confused by the low rep, but webapps also has shockingly low rep all over

tombull89

11:06

@Bob Don't know, that's the first time I've seen him run.

@OliverSalzburg I guess it's a low-traffic site compared to the otheres. Must be high enough to warrant a new mod though.

Oliver Salzburg

28k visits/day

wow English Language and Usage has a perfect 100% answered score?

Sathya

@tombull89 lot many hit-n-run, very few votes

1

Q: Full Control Over CD/DVD burning

Suppose I want to burn just the 6000th byte(if thats not possible say the 10th sector) on a CDR without touching anyother region. Sounds possible but is there any tool to accomplish this. Yeah sure, there may be no clear point doing this but is this possible technically?. (Doesnt matter maintai...

1

Q: Reading Data from the Entire Surface of a CD, DVD

Is it possible to retrieve data from the entire surface of a compact disc. Suppose a CD written with 300MB of data where the remaining 400MB is blank. Normally, computer doesn't bother with the 400MB region when reading it because the filesystem ends at 300MB. But, is it possible to make the ...

compact-disc

wonder what's the next question he's going to ask

@OliverSalzburg :-D

Oliver Salzburg

@Sathya Humm, we had a question like that once

About being able to "draw" images on the data side of a CD

And there was some OSS for it IIRC

Can't find it :(

Sathya

oh

Oliver Salzburg

I bet it was deleted and I'm searching myself crazy

HackToHell

11:21

@hacktohell Unlike SE chat, it isn't mostly my fault when that happens.

Tweeted by JourneymanGeek on September 16, 2012 at 10:05 AM in reply to hacktohell

tombull89

@OliverSalzburg Not thinking of LightScribe, are you?

or actually on the data side?

Oliver Salzburg

@tombull89 No, but that obviously came up in the discussion :D

It was about the data side

4

Q: How to "paint" the data layer of a CD using a CD drive?

I am looking for software to "paint" geometric shapes, dots or lines on the data layer of a writable CD (or DVD) using a standard drive. These do not have to be visible to the naked eye; I'd try to abuse the small dot size on the CD for some scientific measurements. Most of the software availabl...

compact-disc

But thanks for mentioning lightscribe, adding that to my google search made it turn right up :D

Sathya

hehe

HackToHell

@Bob it's 2.8 mb, the file I downloaded is 700 mb, recuva cannot find it :'(

Oliver Salzburg

But no reference to the software I was thinking about :\

Bob

11:24

D:

My Black Mesa archive download won't resume :\

Well, that's 1.5GB down the drain :P

Bleh. Sites that don't support resuming... :(

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob Use the torrent

Still has almost 20k seeds :P

HackToHell

@Bob And simply paste it over the torrent

Oliver Salzburg

@HackToHell Smart

HackToHell

I wonder where chkdsk pushed my file to

Bob

@OliverSalzburg I try to avoid torrents, it kills my router..

Oliver Salzburg

11:29

@Bob Oh :(

HackToHell

@Bob 0_o how ?

Bob

@HackToHell Cheap router; too many connections.

Even if I limit the number of connections, the simple act of searching for seeders can do it.

HackToHell

@Bob my 110 Mhz router does that,if I limit UBR to 1000 ,it works :)

or I bridge my connection and dial from windows

Bob

110 Mhz? UBR?

I'm talking about a wired LAN router connected to an ADSL (2+) modem :P

Oliver Salzburg

My router has 680MHz! Hah! :D

HackToHell

11:32

@Bob I am too talking about that :P

@OliverSalzburg is it 20$ :P :P

Oliver Salzburg

@HackToHell Was more like 120€ actually

netgear.com/home/products/wirelessrouters/high-performance/…

HackToHell

I was actually implying something else, but nvm

Bob

That's the modem side.

I'm having more issues with the router side :P

HackToHell

lol

I confused them xD

Journeyman Geek

11:46

oh blah

thinks he broke his test vm

oh, its just being slow

HackToHell

is really pissed off with chkdsk

tombull89

12:01

Yeah torrents kill my router too :(

slhck

Oh dear…

He even sent his CV

And I'm not even a professor yet :P

tombull89

Integrated Dual Degree In Electronics and Communication Engiineering with Master of Technology in Wireless Communication.

Bit of a mouthfull.

Journeyman Geek

has never heard of that specific branch of IIT

some of them tend to be REALLY good tho

Blah, my hungarian friend needs to get online so i can horrify him

Sathya

@slhck oh dear :/

@JourneymanGeek I lol'd at CGPA of 7.7 till IIIrd sem. That's like I have 100% record in Kindergarten

slhck

@Sathya I wonder if I could get him to do home assignments for me as an application test

Journeyman Geek

12:12

@slhck: that is what interns are for, yes? ;p

tombull89

@slhck haha! sounds like a good idea

slhck

A friend of mine did that once with one of these applicants. Made him program a Java RSS reader. Not bad work, I have to say :P

Sathya

@slhck lolol

:p

tombull89

@slhck and then said what after? "sorry it's not good enough?"

slhck

@tombull89 I believe so, lol

Journeyman Geek

12:14

ooh

I NEED AN INTERN! That way i don't need to learn to code ;p

Oliver Salzburg

0

Q: what is the meaning of www2

Possible Duplicate: What does wwws mean? Today I got one link from my friend that starts with www2.zzzzzzzz.co something like that what is difference between www1, www2 and www3 in url

internet url

I bet @RedGrittyBrick was like "Hey, I wrote something like this before, didn't I..."

tombull89

Poor bloke could have give up and jumped off a cliff :P

Journeyman Geek

hmm

slhck

Or he could've made the software shareware and hosted it on free-rss-reader.blogspot.co.in

scnr

Journeyman Geek

lol

then posted it everytime someone asks about it

slhck

12:17

:D

Bob

@slhck I was half expecting that to be an actual site.

Journeyman Geek

13:56

looks like I need to update the wiki

needs to work out how to send a jabber message on login on windows next ;p

and, half the answer is on SU ;p

William Hilsum

14:15

@Bob hehe and @OliverSalzburg yep... We have so much lying around! I actually bought 6x 305 meter boxes just for this testing! Glad I could post a picture rather than just saying the result!

Journeyman Geek

o0

thats dedication for an answer ;p

r.tanner.f

14:37

@WilliamHilsum Wow. That's freaking awesome.

Oliver Salzburg

Wow

I just tried to make a screenshot, as always, with Greenshot

Sadly, I still had Picasa open, which registers the same global hotkey

What a mess that caused...

One of the two tools suspended the process of which I was trying to capture a window. Which caused excessive lock ups throughout the system

I had to switch to another user session to resume the process and revive my shell :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

William Hilsum

@r.tanner.f I felt bad how much went in the bin! But... there were a lot of holes in it!

Oliver Salzburg

Interesting tool though :D

0

A: How can I minimize Visual Studio 2010 to the system tray to save taskbar real estate?

You can use Tray It! to achieve this. Run Tray It! and start Visual Studio. Select the Visual Studio process and click the Place in System Tray! button. Visual Studio is now moved to the notification area: Please note that Visual Studio will now always minimize to the notification area un...

And if he had asked the question about the actual problem he's having, it would have been even more useful :P

Maybe I should just make a "How can I minimize any application to the notification area" question and close all others as dupes

Tom Wijsman

14:54

The solution is to not use a task bar. :D

Oliver Salzburg

I'm trying to come up with a scenario where I have Visual Studio running, but it's not important enough to have it on the taskbar, but it's still too important to close it.

I assume they have an application, but it only runs in Debug mode, so they just run it through VS all the time :D

avirk

hello guys!

@WilliamHilsum I overcome that problem and it was very weird one.

@OliverSalzburg you mean you want it to on taskbar after close?

Oliver Salzburg

@avirk No, I'm trying to understand why kind of a weird setup that user is running.

avirk

15:12

0

Q: How can I minimize Visual Studio 2010 to the system tray to save taskbar real estate?

I was wondering if there was a way to run Visual Studio 2010 in system tray? Does anyone know if that's possible?

visual-studio-2010 notification-area

@OliverSalzburg that one?

Oliver Salzburg

@avirk Yes

avirk

@OliverSalzburg your answer seems to be good and should be acceptable

Oliver Salzburg

@avirk My point was, if you have Visual Studio running, but it's not important enough to have a button on the taskbar, maybe it shouldn't be running in the first place.

It usually sucks between 1-2GB of memory on my desktop, there really is no point in having it running if you're not using it :D

avirk

@OliverSalzburg yeah that is the right point :D

From last week my days are not going too good for mr :(

Oliver Salzburg

@avirk No good questions?

allquixotic

15:23

Herro

avirk

@OliverSalzburg na, my life days are bad

@allquixotic hello :)

Oliver Salzburg

@avirk How come?

allquixotic

ouch, long day... the Orioles game doesn't start until 10:10 pm because they're on the west coast -_-

avirk

@OliverSalzburg my phone's battery was giving bad back up and Sony don't keep the stock so they have my phone since last Wednesday, and I was about to die when a poisoned liquid fall on me which use for spray to crops :P

Oliver Salzburg

@avirk O__O

Was it serious?

avirk

15:28

@OliverSalzburg little bit but thank GOD not too much :)

and last day my laptop won't boot up and I thought I mess up with it when I cleaned the fan and my younger sister was blaming to me for that.

Oliver Salzburg

@avirk Ah, I remember the fan. Were you able to get it running properly again?

avirk

and after some efforts I came to know my Windows boot loader had been corrupt :P

@OliverSalzburg couldn't fix the boot loader and had to install the fresh setup which I hate :D

Oliver Salzburg

Weird

Correlation does not imply causation

"Correlation does not imply causation" (related to "ignoring a common cause" and questionable cause) is a phrase used in science and statistics to emphasize that a correlation between two variables does not automatically imply that one causes the other (though correlation is necessary for linear causation in the absence of any third and countervailing causative variable, it can indicate possible causes or areas for further investigation; in other words, correlation is a hint). The opposite belief, correlation proves causation, is a logical fallacy by which two events that occur together ar...

Never forget ;D

avirk

@OliverSalzburg for me it was too much I tried every thing but donno as these are not my days

HaydnWVN

hey guys

avirk

15:33

@OliverSalzburg ;p

HaydnWVN

have an interesting one for you :P

avirk

@HaydnWVN put it :P

HaydnWVN

Windows Workgroup, have a device showing in the network list, the device name isn't pingable (and due to our DNS suffixing gets passed out to the DNS server and resolves externally) and i can't browse to it - i'm prompted with a logon box.

avirk

My chrome profile was about 100 mb when I did a backup of it :P

HaydnWVN

Sooo... I KNOW it's a PC, but how do i determine which one has the stupid name? :)

allquixotic

15:37

@avirk DDT? India still uses that I think?

HaydnWVN

Woohoo! Stumped you all! ;)

avirk

@allquixotic may be but not me ;)

@HaydnWVN Oo

allquixotic

@HaydnWVN "Windows Workgroup" uh, which version of Windows? and do you know what the device is or is it just some mystery device?

NetBIOS was probably used to determine the hostname. NetBIOS names do not have to correspond to DNS names or hostnames

they're separate protocols so you can configure your NetBIOS to send a different hostname than is registered with the system for DNS... I think the default configuration on Windows, at least, is to set the NetBIOS hostname, the local system hostname and the DNS name to be the same, but that's just the default

>This results in each computer in the network having both an IP address and a NetBIOS name corresponding to a (possibly different) host name.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NetBIOS

r.tanner.f

15:56

whooaaa, suddenly I need a calendar... Anybody have a recommendation on one that will sync between android ios and pc? =S

Oliver Salzburg

@r.tanner.f Google Calendar?

r.tanner.f

sounds good lol

avirk

the good thing of our chat is that Google can't search the solution we post here :D

Sathya

@avirk chat is very much indexed by Google

avirk

@Sathya Oo

Sathya

16:02

example

HaydnWVN

@allquixotic NetBIOS is a possibility, it'll be a Windows 7, XP or a 2000 PC. It's a mystery device but as i attempt to browse it and i'm prompted for a logon i'm guessing it's a machine due to the authentication

allquixotic

the Windows file sharing (Server Message Block) protocol requires NetBIOS to be used rather than DNS for hostname resolution and discovery

HaydnWVN

If we were using IP6 how would WFS work as isn't NetBIOS over IP6 unsupported on Windows?

I'm not saying that we are (i've mostly disabled IP6 on supported machines)

allquixotic

technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc940106.aspx

try nbtstat -c

HaydnWVN

yeah nothing, doing -a 'NAME' now and get 'HOST NOT FOUND'

but i'm guessing whoever's PC it is has gone home as it's that time of day lol

as i can't attempt to browse to it now either

i'll do it in the morning, thanks for the help :D

allquixotic

16:13

so it's shut down?

HaydnWVN

i'm guessing so

avirk

@Sathya Oo

allquixotic

sigh you're guessing so?

asset tracking dude... IT 101

know your client endpoints

HaydnWVN

@allquixotic well no authentication prompt now

allquixotic

automatically blacklist-by-default unknown endpoints

HaydnWVN

16:14

I'm not allowed any control of the firewall here, only the local machines

and occasional bits on the servers

allquixotic

so what are you, desktop support?

HaydnWVN

it's all done by an external software company for our bespoke package

allquixotic

that's... lame

HaydnWVN

more like all onsite support, myself and my manager do all the IT, but the server OS and SQL setup for the bespoke software is all done by an external company

tell me about it, but it has to be due to the information we hold

some confidential stuff, company and card details etc

bank accounts etc etc

allquixotic

with all that sensitive information on the network, doesn't it strike you as extremely odd that there would be an endpoint on the network whose identity is not recognized?

HaydnWVN

16:17

my manager is more software side (SQL & writes loads of stuff in access) and i'm more hardware/desktop/network support

allquixotic

not only odd, but downright fire drill type intrusion

HaydnWVN

@allquixotic hardly, the networks completely locked down. It has to be a machine with the name set as default still from my predecessor

If i can find it's IP address i'll know exactly which machine it is

allquixotic

but don't you have a list of the hostnames of all your machines?

HaydnWVN

(No dynamic IP's/DHCP here)

I have the hosts they SHOULD be set to with the corrisponding IP's

i./e

but AFAIK there's no check that the client name is correct, just the IP address

allquixotic

so you have MAC / IP / hostname triplets for all the boxen; you have MAC filters on the switches/routers to prevent unauthorized PHY; but just the hostname is somehow wrong?

HaydnWVN

16:20

just IP / hostname, no MAC switching

switching/filtering

allquixotic

so someone could walk up with a laptop, plug it into an ethernet port and gain access if they could assign their box to a valid IP?

HaydnWVN

yeah if they could guess the IP ranges we use and the correct subnet they should be using for the switch they're plugged into

but we have no public access here anyways

It's a plant nursery... IT security isn't exactly a high priority ;)

no DHCP, no Wifi and we have complete control over any machines connected to the network

hometime anyways :P

thanks for the help @allquixotic

Einsteins Grandson

16:37

anybody here?

;o)

Daniel Beck

@EinsteinsGrandson FYI you died 4 years ago.

3

allquixotic

@EinsteinsGrandson !meta

20

Q: Etiquette when asking questions in an IRC channel

Many larger OSS projects maintain IRC channels to discuss their usage or development. When I get stuck on using a project, having tried and failed to find information on the web, one of the ways I try to figure out what to do is to go into the IRC channel and ask. But my questions are invariably...

etiquette question-answering

Super User

16:58

0

Q: Question of the Week #44

Now we're into post #44 of the "Top Question" of Super User in the Super User blog. Please post and vote for your favorite question for this week. Please post any questions that you feel is of worth and the reason why. Try not to promote your own questions or answers for publicity's sake. We ar...

discussion question-of-the-week superser-blog

Ell

hi guys

KronoS

0

Q: Is there a way to browse uploaded images of stack.imgur?

As an editor for the blog, I use the images from stack.imgur. However in order for me to use them, I have to get the link from the posts themselves or if they're my own images, or images I've found online, I have to create a dummy post and upload the images. Is there a way to access and browse ...

discussion imgur

Ell

I have a problem :S

KronoS

what's your problem?

Ell

17:22

vlc seems to play things back chopily

in comparison to windows media player

Einsteins Grandson

so now

Daniel Beck

@Ell all files?

Ell

my other problem is headphone/microphone ports dont work on my case :(

@DanielBeck seems like it :S well multiple file types and different files

r.tanner.f

@Ell Double check that the wire running from the case is plugged in to the mother board

I derped on that once and just thought it was broken for a month >_>

Ell

It is plugged into the HD Audio socket

It works on linux which suggests to me its a driver issue

but i swear ive tried every one

r.tanner.f

17:25

how about the appropriate ones according to the mobo manufacturer? ;)

Ell

I have tried :L but I'll look again

It's just such a pain restarting agaiin and agaiin and again!

r.tanner.f

yeah =\

what motherboard are you using anyway?

Ell

gigabyte: Z68MA-D2H-B3

yay now downloading a 100mb driver :P

uk.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3855#dl

^its that realtek audio one, right?

r.tanner.f

yeah that's the one I was looking at

Windows 7?

Ell

yeah, 64 bit

...completely legit ;)

rlemon

17:29

Any data recovery guys in here? I have a HDD with two partitions on it. One is recognized by windows AND linux, the other is seen by linux and the amount of 'free space' on the partition is known. however I cannot access any files on the drive.

r.tanner.f

Updated last week too

@rlemon I've had great luck with photorec, you can also try ntfsundeleteall

photorec will just dump everything without names though

rlemon

@r.tanner.f the worst part is the partition I cannot see was all my windows development code :(

now a client just reported a bug with 2 year old software that the sources are on that backup :<

r.tanner.f

ouch...

rlemon

fml...

next step is paying $60 and taking it to a data recovery place.

Ell

oh i have a hdd problem too

rlemon

17:33

I'm going to try and dd it

r.tanner.f

@Ell ?

Ell

@r.tanner.f 3 linux things report different capacity/free space, as well as windows reporting a different one too >.<

Right, lets restart! see you in a bizzle

ahh it doesnt work -.-

r.tanner.f

17:48

=\

Ell

aha im getting somewhere

now the left channel works :D

oh woah its weird

the right channel acts as the left, and the the left is still in the right just much fainter

the mic appears to work but the audio out is still a bit bodged

r.tanner.f

O_o none of these symptoms on Linux?

Ell

actually funny story, i recently reinstalled linux and now that is bodged too

but in a whole new manner. When I click test speakers the left speaker and left headphone alternate, while the right side comes out of the right speaker only

the whole computer is a bit of a mess :L

allquixotic

@Ell I'm detecting very low levels of sanity within this computer

Ell

It is a very insane computer :P

what is Realtek Digital Output (Optical) ?

Michael Hampton

18:09

Delete this account - SPAM

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spam-prevention

allquixotic

@Ell "Optical" is probably a TOSLINK connection, also referred to as S/PDIF

Tom Wijsman

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Q: Delete this SPAM account

This is SPAM account used to post SPAM with details posted on the evil SPAM bugmenot site. This is SPAM account used to post SPAM with details posted on the evil SPAM bugmenot site. This is SPAM account used to post SPAM with details posted on the evil SPAM bugmenot site. This is SPAM account ...

spam-prevention

@MichaelHampton: Just saw it as well.

Luke

... So why is it on the main site? Lol

allquixotic

(for clarity, TOSLINK and S/PDIF are not the same thing, but in practice they are paired together -- TOSLINK the physical connectors and S/PDIF the protocol -- to form "digital audio" solutions)

Ell

never seen a toslink cable before o.O

allquixotic

18:12

many motherboard DSPs have an S/PDIF output, regardless of whether there's actually a connector/header on the motherboard allowing you to plug in such a cable

the audio chip itself is capable of processing S/PDIF is basically what it's saying, and in some circumstances you actually can hook up a compatible cable to an amplifier or speakers or something

although these days the modern trend for consumer-grade digital audio is HDMI

Ell

ahh okay

Tom Wijsman

Totally the wrong approach, he could just change password; it wasn't even used to SPAM... xD

allquixotic

"Totally the wrong approach" by a well-meaning person reminds me of the mailing list "please remove me" contagion

a lot of people sign up to a ML; a person shoots an email to the list asking to be removed from the list; a moderator replies telling them how to remove themselves; other people chime in after receiving the previous emails to "please remove me too"; and the noisier and more annoying the conversation gets, the more that people want to leave

and the underlying message that you don't have to even send a message to the list to get removed somehow gets drowned out by the people telling each other to shut up, and, in so doing, just add further noise to the list

Ell

woooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg8Bh5iI2WY&feature=player_embedded

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