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4:25 PM
Very interesting episode of the Catholic Man Show on Natural Law and the moral permissibility of lying open.spotify.com/episode/…
 
@PeterTurner thoughts on becoming a priest/monk?
 
@LukeHill a lot of self-discipline up front. Being a parent with the amount of self-discipline it takes to be a priest or monk would make you an awesome parent, but you get years and years to figure out where your faults are. It seems like you have to figure it all out a lot quicker if you're discerning a vocation.
 
@PeterTurner totally. It’s just a fascinating lifestyle to me. I’m not sure if I’m drawn to it or not, but it’s really interesting to look into.
 
@LukeHill I know there's a lot of joy to be had in those vocations; hopefully you get to know some priests in the coming years who can show you that! It's a good example even to the laity
I don't know any monks though, I went to world youth day in 2005 with a guy who became a monk though - very unlikely candidate in my opinion. Just a cool guy who wanted to be a monk, not sure if he's sticking with it. I hope so though
 
 
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6:20 PM
@LukeHill FWIW even if you wanted to enter religious life, as a rule new converts cannot enter seminary with a diocese or formation with a society of consecrated life
The waiting period is 2 years IIRC. And that starts from when you receive Sacraments of initiation (in your case, when you get confirmed)
 
@SupportiveDante I believe that's right - an "on fire" guy in my Parish just came into the church this Easter and that's what they told him - I figured it was a diocesan requirement, but the minimum might be canon law
 
6:56 PM
@SupportiveDante fascinating. I wonder what the reasoning behind that is - the Catholic Church wouldn’t prevent converts from getting married right after conversion and initiation
 
Well they don't marry couples right away either, there's always marriage prep that can take around a year
And people don't tend to respond to conversion by saying "I'm gonna go get married immediately" usually the guy wants to be the Pope or something
it's called new convert zeal
 
@SupportiveDante ah I see
 
@SupportiveDante The priest at the parish which I referred to in my question suggested a 2010 movie about St. Philip Neri whose feast day is coming up.
The 3.5 hour Italian movie (with English subtitle) is available for free for the parish members, since the parish has a formed.org subscription. It's about how St. Philip Neri founded the Congregation of the Oratory.
I just learned it's rather different than a monastic order / religious institute since they don't require members to take vows, and that Cardinal Newman is among their members ! To @LukeHill This can be an option, or joining a third order.
 
7:15 PM
@GratefulDisciple that’s really interesting. Have you seen the video on the guy doing a day in the life of a monk?
 
I'm halfway through the movie. Quite touching and do-able for laymen to imitate. I like it because St. Philip Neri focused on joy, confession, forgiveness, working with what's available in a creative way (PLUS depending on God, of course!) and working with what we can rather than stressing over a high standard.
 
@GratefulDisciple if you haven’t read it yet - logos Bible app has the confessions of St. Augustine for free, definitely worth a read which is what I’m doing right now
 
@LukeHill I haven't, which video is that? But isn't a day in the life of a monk varies greatly depending on the religious order?
Anyway, I'm just starting to familiarize myself with liturgy and the saints, which of course, is very foreign to a Protestant. St. Philip Neri seems to be a gentle introduction. He even got in trouble with church authorities because he do everything outside the church (including confession) with little or no rules.
 
@GratefulDisciple Probably this one?
 
@LukeHill Yes, I have been wanting to read Augustine's Confession. It's long overdue. I want to have some background first, so I read the well regarded Peter Brown's Augustine's biography a few years ago.
 
7:27 PM
I have no idea why my lowest effort answer has done the best
 
@SupportiveDante Thanks. Will give it a watch later this week. Another that I appreciate is the global liturgical readings that are well chosen according to the season, which also keeps the whole body of Christ on the same page and can discuss.
 
@LukeHill Man, I wish Bishop Barron would take a little detour from doing the Word on Fire Bibles to a Word on Fire Confessions. That's a book that needs a Supportive Virgil.
If Confessions were a blog:

> St. Augustine: I struggled to understand time
> Me: I struggled to understand how this is relevant
 
@PeterTurner That would be great, if Bishop Barron would do that! I trust he will do a good job, since he's quite well versed in liberal arts. Some resources that I plan to use is the Teaching Company great course on the book. The cost is prohibitive, but I can borrow it from a library.
 
7:45 PM
The Institute of Catholic Culture has two lecture series instituteofcatholicculture.org/search?terms=confessions
That site's all free
Good stuff too, a local friend of mine would practically have a degree from there if they offered 'em.
 
@PeterTurner THANKS. Will definitely take a look.
 
Trinity analogy of the day: A lightbulb, the electricity and the light. (From homily during last Sunday's Mass).
Our pastor explained the "relationships" which I thought'd be handy for explaining things to certain non-Trinitarians. "Generative" and "Respirative?" He also used a big greek word starting with the prefix "peri--" I'd ask about these things here, but I only half-remember them in the first place
I was thinking of code generators the whole time and forging my own private heresies.
 
@PeterTurner Perichoresis ?
@PeterTurner You're a true geek (in a good way) 😀. Used to be like that, but my wife changed me.
 
@PeterTurner that's arianism, patrick
mixed with partialism
 
@GratefulDisciple yeah - that's it!
 
8:08 PM
youtube.com/watch?v=KQLfgaUoQCw Ahh yeah, I remember that video :)
 
8:25 PM
Well, it's my pastor's favorite heretical analogy, not mine!
Mine is:
> The template (God the Father) generates the source code (God the Son) and the source code (together with the template) is compiled into machine code (God the Holy Spirit).
Refer any nitpicks to the spec; which is on an old wiki we deleted in 1906.
 
 
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11:14 PM
@PeterTurner Well, I feel better that I'm not the only one that immediately thought of that video 😁.
 

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