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Q: Do you automatically go to heaven/paradise if you are a muslim?

9:50 AM

@Pandya "good message"

The Prophet Elisha

10:16 AM

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In Christianity there are 3 main divisions: Roman Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy and Protestantism. (There is also Oriental Orthodoxy and the Church of the East, but they are much smaller than the others). In Protestantism there are a variety of views, but the majority of them seem to believe th...

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Pandya

10:43 AM

@curiousdannii Ok. What would be suitable "Want to learn the Gospel of" or "Want to know the Gospel of" ?

Q: Must you always pray towards Mecca (Is your prayer invalid if you don't?)

11:11 AM

@Pandya I'm not really sure what you mean sorry

The Prophet Elisha

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I understand that Muslims are supposed to pray 5 times a day, and every time you are supposed to do the Salat and face towards the Kaaba in Mecca. I'm wondering, is it essential to pray towards Mecca? In Catholicism, when we go to church we pray towards the Eucharist and the Tabernacle, because ...

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11:52 AM

@TheProphetElisha "In Catholicism, when we go to church we pray towards the Eucharist and the Tabernacle, because we believe that the tabernacle contains God" Is this actually true?

Peter Turner

2:02 PM

@curiousdannii yeah, that's true, when the Eucharist reserved from the prior Mass is stored there.

The only day it's not true is Good Friday, when you walk in to church and say, "meh, it's just a shiny box" and flop into a pew.

7:23 PM

@DickHarfield I think we had a question like this before. christianity.stackexchange.com/q/55085/24204 Does it belong a BH.SE? Or can it be scoped for C.SE?

7:41 PM

@fredsbend Fred, he was leading "the wrong group" and that's what got him into trouble with temporal authorities. | chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/35225894#35225894

@curiousdannii Toward the exposed host (Eucharist) yes because once consecrated it's the body of Christ. If the Body of Christ is stored in the Tabernacle, then one is facing the same way, towards Jesus. When the consecrated host/Body of Christ is exposed in the monstrance during adoration, one is facing Jesus ... etc.

Q: What key differences should I be sure to cover when explaining how I study the Bible as a Catholic to my Episcopalian friend?

8:15 PM

Does anyone have time to help me workshop a question?

The Episcopal Church does not have am officially prescribed method for teaching reading of the Bible, and to the best of my knowledge, the Roman Catholic Church does not, either. The principal difference between the approaches of th Roman Catholic Church and the Episcopal Church as far as a study of the book of Tobit, though, is that the RC church considers Tobit to be scripture, and the Episcopal Church does not. — brasshat 10 hours ago

.... why did that post a random comment

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A friend of mine was recently given a full Bible and asked if I could read through the book of Tobit with her. When we discussed the details of doing this, it turned out one of the things she is hoping to learn is how to read the Bible the way I do as representative of the way the Church teaches...

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there we go

Dick Harfield

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Q: Translations of the New Testament

I am new here. I would like to know, which is considered to be the best translation (into English) from Greek?

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@KorvinStarmast You appear to ask my opinion of the above question. I do feel humbled if you have come here to ask me of all people about this.

@KorvinStarmast If that was your question to me, this question can not be answered by hermeneutics. I'm not sure that it can be asked in such a way that it would be in scope for C.SE, but that is where it would belong. Hope that helps.

@DickHarfield My memory is that on a question a lot like this about versions of the bible (not just NT) your comments points about the question had made the most sense to me. I am not going to suggest a migration, and other's have chimed in to ask the person asking to narrow it down a bit.

@thedarkwanderer Let me see what I can do ...

8:34 PM

@KorvinStarmast Thanks! Even just knowing why it was closed would help :)

My vote to close, (even though I upvoted the question!) is that I think it's too broad, and I have hopes for there being a way to get it scoped. (I am interested in answers). IIRC, you are catholic, so maybe you should ask this differently. Cite the Divino Afflante Spiritu in your question's body, and ask if there is comparable official teaching in the Episcopal church? That's part of it.

My difficulty with the question lies in any assumption that there is a difference. But that means I have biases/blinders ... I think. The other point I'd raise with your friend is lectio divina

usccb.org/beliefs-and-teachings/how-we-teach/catechesis/… \ it's a practice or teaching the long predates the split between Roman Rite and the Anglican confession, and as such may have carried over ... I hear a lot of times the description of

Anglicans and Episcopaleans as "Catholic Lite" or "Pretty darned close to Catholic" ... though that seems to be from the Catholic PoV.

Birdie

8:49 PM

@curiousdannii What's the Tabernacle in this case? Does the Catholic church have a tabernacle somewhere that I'm not aware of?

Q: What is this box that can be found in Catholic churches?

Hmm, ok. So if I can word the question so that 'there is no difference' becomes an acceptable answer, then that would help it not be too broad, from your perspective?

I can cite documents for a Catholic approach in the question if you want, but I'm not expecting a document-based Episcopalian answer but rather an experience based one. Especially since I'm pretty sure my friend hasn't read such a document if it exists. I guess I could hope the Bible-reading methods that are actually taught reflect the official doctrine, that would make sense.

@Birdie it's a vessel for holding consecrated host, looks like

lots of variations

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Please see the picture below. What is this 'box', gilded perhaps, that can be found in Catholic churches? Some make a genuflection before it, and even the Pope bows reverentially before it. What is its history and significance? What's kept in it? What is the name and purpose of the lamp beside it...

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Was there ever an Elisha?

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Q: Did Pope Pius XII declare that Jesus, Mary and Joseph were "the archetype of every refugee family"?

Refugees, Prisoners and Camps quotes Pope Pius XII as saying: The émigré Holy Family of Nazareth, fleeing into Egypt, is the archetype of every refugee family. Jesus, Mary and Joseph, living in exile in Egypt to escape the fury of an evil king, are for all times and all places, the models an...

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@birdie It is usually behind the altar (if you are facing the entrance to the church from the altar).

@thedarkwanderer While the Catholic Church might have official interpretations (and I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't), there is definitely no official Anglican interpretation, of pretty much any part of the Bible.

@WasthereeveranElisha? I thought that came from John Paul II.

@curiousdannii Are you of the Anglican confession? (I recall that brasshat is, but memory does not serve).

9:02 PM

@curiousdannii well, that's good to know, but I'm more interested in how one approaches interpreting sections of scripture when doing so from an Episcopal background and how that is different from doing so from a Catholic background.

@KorvinStarmast I'm a member of an Anglican church but I don't accept all they teach. I'm against infant baptism for example.

@thedarkwanderer There are no meaningful generalisations anyone could make about how Anglicans approach interpreting scripture. Anglican exegesis is about as wide as Christian exegesis.

@curiousdannii So was the deacon at the first Catholic Church we went to when our daughter was born. (I wasn't in the RCC at that point) Needless to say my wife was both surprised and offended, so we went to another church where the deacons weren't of such opinions.

@KorvinStarmast Deacons are ordained roles (in Catholicism and Anglicanism) so that certainly is surprising.

El'endia Starman

Maybe that was an opinion he developed after being ordained?

@curiousdannii Tell me about it. He tried to talk my wife out of baptizing our child at birth because she was asking for the wrong reasons, or didn't understand Baptism, or something. (We were in California ... maybe that's the problem).

@El'endiaStarman Maybe that guy was just a (delete nasty word here) whose priest had a particular preference; and maybe because we were in the military and had just moved to town was being the usual (delete nasty word here) to military folks that I found common in California.

9:12 PM

@curiousdannii I provide a link to the website of the church she attends. I really, really doubt the diversity of exegesis in people who learned to study the Bible from that church is a broad as all Christianity. I also don't think it's impossible to understand the key points in that church's exegetical tradition without, for example, attending it-- presumably its culture and doctrines came from somewhere.

9 mins ago, by curiousdannii

@thedarkwanderer There are no meaningful generalisations anyone could make about how Anglicans approach interpreting scripture. Anglican exegesis is about as wide as Christian exegesis.

@darkwanderer Curiousdannii's observation squares with my experience.

Oh, hey, I found a good answer when compiling a list of good Episcopalian Bible-teaching sources. We're all good here, then, I think. Should I delete the question?

@thedarkwanderer If you wanted to narrow it to one of the three major divisions of Anglicans, Anglo-Catholic, liberal/progressive, evangelical, then it might be okay to generalise. But even then exegesis will always be broader than doctrine

@thedarkwanderer The historical roots on Anglicanism are clear, but the Anglicanism of today has little to do with it in places. The different strands of Anglicanism have increasingly little to do with each other doctrinally and in some places, practically too.

9:29 PM

@KorvinStarmast since you indicated interest in the answer: http://www.wvdiocese.org/pages/pdfs/oldthingsmadenew/Chapter6.pdf . It's from West Virginia, but the tradition seems similar enough given their respective 'about' pages (well, Constitution and Confessions, and other stuff).

@curiousdannii I already did. It's ok, though, I have the material I need so I can delete the question if that would be better for people.

I just don't want to delete it if that would be against site policy cause it's upvoted. I think I remember some sort of warning message I got on this site a couple years back regarding deleting upvoted questions I asked.

@KorvinStarmast You need a good familiarity with Catholic Bible reading to figure out what the differences there would be because the piece is written to talk about the much more substantive differences between Episcopalianism and 'Fundamentalists' on that account. But you are also Catholic, I think, so that should be ok, yeah?

A: so how was it that i earned -100 points?

@El'endiaStarman can you help with this meta question?

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so it looks like it happened again? how did i earn -100 points today? who did i offend? what SE rule(s) were transgressed?

@thedarkwanderer Muchas Gracias, amigo. I'll take a look there and see how it helps my understanding. Also, @brasshat did a neat answer a while back on a couple of the Anglican confessions and their differences. It was a great read.

El'endia Starman

9:49 PM

@KorvinStarmast We're on it.