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@RonMaupin The network latency question has over 3K views in just one day!
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@RonTrunk It made it to the hot list.
@RonTrunk That guy who want to start the NSO site is a Network Designer. Apparently, we are lowly Network Engineers. Oh, my aching protocols. :)
 
12 hours later…
12:49
@RonTrunk @RonMaupin
Morning
Strange question. I have my new 9300 pluged into the management port ont he same LAN as my management equipment. I can ping the swtich but itcan't ping back. Thoughts?
13:25
@JukEboX Windows firewall on management device?
@RonTrunk It can't even ping our time server that doesn't have a firewall
Does it have to do with the IP Route on the Mgmt-vrf?
So the switch is connected to the management port on the same switch as my laptop. I can ping the switch from my laptop but I can't ping the laptop from the switch. I can't ping the switch we are connected to either from the new switch
But I can get to the switch through the web interface called out in the manual
14:08
@JukEboX Are you pinging from the VRF?
You need to specify the VRF in the ping command
@RonTrunk yes I am pinging from the port on the mgmt-vrf
@RonTrunk I am little confused
The management port is on the mgmt-vrf
14:25
You need to specify the VRF when you ping. Otherwise how does the switch know which interface to use?
ping vrf <vrf-name> 1.2.3.4
@JukEboX Otherwise, you're pinging from the global routing table
@RonTrunk what is <vrf-name>
@JukEboX the name of your management vrf (Mgmt-intf)>
You can have many vrfs on a switch, so when you ping, you need specify which one to use.
14:48
@RonTrunk I just turned on the switch. I haven't named it. unless it is mgmt-vrf
I don't know what the default Vrf is for the management NIC is
@RonMaupin did you run in to this problem when you got your 9300s?
@JukEboX Look at the config for the management interface.
You shouls see a line like
vrf forwarding <vrf-name>
Oh I see its actually called Mgmt-vrf
@JukEboX Then try
ping vrf Mgmt-vrf 1.2.3.4
Perfect
Ok I have a question for you for the Managment LAN itself
So my top level switch carries the MANAGEMENT Lan. One of these switches is going to be that new switch
To manage it do I run a cable from one of the ports on the front to the Management port in the back?
@JukEboX No. you don't need to use the management port. You can ssh/telnet just like any other switch. The management port and vrf are used if you want out of band management.
15:09
So I guess I am getting confused as the difference between OOBM and the Management port
15:51
@JukEboX In the network here, we don't use out of band management. So we don't use the management port at all. We ssh just like any other Cisco device.
@RonTrunk wouldn't the OOBM work as the management port?
If you want OOB, you can restrict management access to only the management port, but it doesn't sound like you're doing that.
@JukEboX If your switch carries the management VLAN, then there's no real value to using OOBM.
The whole point of OOBM is to have a separate infrastructure for management. So if your production network were to stop working, you would still have management access.
@JukEboX For example:
I have a switch and router at a remote site.
Management traffic rides the same WAN link as production traffic
There's no point to configuring OOB, because if the WAN goes down, or the router goes down, I've lost access.
If I have a separate connection, say a cellular modem, then it might make sense to configure OOB,
Does that help?
16:16
oh ok that gelps
Thanks thats super helpful. Its like a backup on seperate power
 
4 hours later…
20:11
@JukEboX, the other reason for OOBM is security. You can set a device up to only allow access the the management VRF. So there would be no access through the "normal" network.
You can also assign any and all ports to different VRFs. Think of VRFs as the logical division of devices in the same way that VLANs are logical divisions of the network.
Traffic from one VRF will not get shared with other VRFs unless you provide a connection to do so. We have some devices with multiple VRFs that certainly do have cables connecting right back to the same physical device (on a separate VRF).
Each VRF will have it's own mac address table, routing table, etc. Which is why as Ron pointed out, you need to specify the VRF for many commands so the physical device provides you the right information or uses the right resources.
20:50
@RonTrunk, I keep finding on our sister sites that classful addressing is not dead. I was once castigated on Super User about that, and now we have this: stackoverflow.com/a/56176124/3745413
 
1 hour later…
21:59
@YLearn Thanks for the info. That is really in depth and will take some thinking to understand it
Whats the difference between SVI VLANs and VLAN Vlans?
I did command interface vlan 2 description name and it made and SVI not a VLAN

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