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NautArch

00:01

Interestingly, the question on the Fate deck from the Dragonlance game can probably be answered by a lot of us even without that experience of that game.

Thomas Markov

@NautArch The probability one?

NautArch

Oh geez no

That one should be closed

this one. And it could use another reopen vote.

Thomas Markov

@NautArch Yeah I pinged it open

HellSaint

@NautArch I'm not sure about that haha

Usually when I think I can answer a question about a system I have not played, I find out that I had lots of misconceptions

Thomas Markov

theres definitely nothing in the basic rules about the colors.

NautArch

00:09

@HellSaint hmm, the colors don't mention the positive, negative and neutral states? I took it at face value that was legit.

HellSaint

@NautArch No idea. What I mean is that I have no idea what these "identities" actually mean within the game, for example

NautArch

@HellSaint I guess that could be true, but the question seemed pretty simple at face value with the update.

Thomas Markov

@NautArch thats probably in some other text i guess.

NautArch

@HellSaint ah, true. I made an assumption (sorry!) That it was the card identity

Thomas Markov

the basic rules are actually really short

NautArch

00:11

But whatever, I'm backing out of that question

If mods are others want to handle it

Thomas Markov

like, im all about assuming good faith, but only until i have a reason not to.

HellSaint

I actually think the question in its current state is decent and answerable by someone with expertise in the system.

From my understanding the question is: there is a tool implemented in the game (or in some expansion from the game), which is described as something that should help the GM, but the rules provide little or no guidance on how to actually use such tool to improve your GMing

NautArch

@HellSaint I agree, it's got a problem to be solved now

HellSaint

It's like CoS gave you the Tarokka Deck and said it could help you with the adventure and then stayed silent on how the heck you should use that.

Thomas Markov

@HellSaint I was thinking about that, I just started CoS last night and did the tarokaa reading for my players

"What cards are in the tarokka deck?"

"These."

HellSaint

00:18

Ah but CoS actually has an entire section explaining how you do that, at least haha

Although I do find that the Tarokka reading is sluggish if you don't actually memorize and practice the speech lol

Kevin

Trying to customize an ability in roll20 starfinder... Does anyone happen to know the syntax for "1d20 plus character's stealth bonus plus four"?

HellSaint

"Okay, the Thief... let me see... oh okay, life and death, buried, something something"

Kevin

I'm looking at wiki.roll20.net/Roll_Templates but I don't know if it's even related

HellSaint

@Kevin I don't know for starfinder, but it should be easy to check what is the modifier for the stealth bonus

let me assume it's stealth_mod

it would be /r 1d20 + @{character_name|stealth_mod} + 4

Kevin

When I hover over the stealth stat, it says %{stealth}

I'll try both stealth and stealth_mod

HellSaint

00:22

then just @{character_name|stealth}

Starfinder is based on PF which is based on D&D right? so you have the attribute, which is a high number like 18, and a modifier, which is like +4, right?

If that's the case just make sure you are getting the actual modifier, not the attribute itself

Kevin

The system is quite dnd like, yes. Stealth is calculated from dex plus skill point bonuses

HellSaint

Yeah so pretty much like 3.5

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HellSaint

But yeah, roll20 syntax for an attribute is just @{character_name|attribute} AFAIK.

@Kevin Try this page instead: wiki.roll20.net/Macros#Attribute_Macros

Kevin

That does seem to be correct syntax, although now I'm getting No character was found for 'Iseph'. Maybe I got the spelling wrong...

HellSaint

00:27

If you insert the macro in the Sheet, you don't need to put the character name. If for some reason the character name is different from the sheet name, you need to write whatever is on the sheet as well

(although most sheets will synchronize the character name and the sheet name)

Ah, and you can't put a space between the name and the { or the |, otherwise it will parse the space as part of the name. Like, if you write @{ Char |stealth} if will think the name is " Char ", with the spaces

Kevin

Ah, I needed /roll 1d20 + @{Iseph (Operative 1)|stealth} + 4. I forgot the parenthetical

HellSaint

@Kevin ah yeah, and you need to put the full name of whatever is on the sheet :P

Kevin

Thanks a lot for your help so far :-) Still trying to figure out how to put it in the sheet

There's a text field that lets me specify what appears when I click the ability, but it's acting weird

HellSaint

@Kevin unless you really need to, you can just create a macro and have it in your macro bar

Kevin

True.

Kevin

01:15

My sheet has an attack with the name "Survival Knife". Is it possible to simulate clicking on this attack in a macro? I tried %{Iseph (Operative 1)|Survival Knife} but I got No ability was found for %{Iseph (Operative 1)|Survival Knife}

Unclear to me whether an attack counts as an ability in the first place

The examples at wiki.roll20.net/Macros show how I can simply enter the stats of the weapon into the roll commands of the macro, but I'd prefer to not have to type it out explicitly, since I'll have to edit it every time I enchant my weapon or get a new attack bonus or whatever

HellSaint

@Kevin Not that I know. The sheets usually operate on API-level which is not simply a macro or a fixed attribute.

Why is it a problem to click on the Survival Knife? (asking so I can understand the problem that you're trying to solve with the macro :P)

nitsua60

@NautArch The thing that gets me about that one is... there's kinda no probability to be had, there. The "to-hit" value (at least, in the basic rules) is always a static 8. You know your stat, so just by looking at your hand you can know whether the card you see is enough to sum with your stat to 8.

Where probability does come in is if I decide to play a below-hit-value card of trump, which allows me a draw from the deck. And now we're talking about the probability that a randomly drawn card is of some value or higher, given the cards I see in my hand. Which is trivial, too.

Kevin

I'm playing an operative (i.e. space rogue) and every time I make a trick attack (i.e. sneak attack) I need to click my "trick attack" macro to calculate the stealth check and additional damage, and then click the weapon itself to calculate to-hit and damage. I'd prefer to only have to click one thing rather than two things.

Also it would be nice if I could roll stealth check, then to-hit and damage, then additional damage

HellSaint

@Kevin Fair enough. In 5e sheet, you can click on Stealth, which will roll your Stealth check, then you can click on the weapon, which will roll the to-hit and damage, and you have a checkbox in which you can include extra sources of damage.

Take a look if the Starfinder sheet doesn't have a similar checkbox for additional damage. (in the 5e sheet, you have to go into the Settings of your sheet and manually enable it)

But either way I'm not sure you can do it with less than 2 clicks without macro'ing your weapon as well haha

BESW

01:30

Pandatheist has started part 2 to the Bolt RPG read through (twitter link)

Kevin

Hmm, I'll poke around

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Kevin

01:49

Well, at the very least I can copy-paste the syntax from the real attack and paste it into my macro, so it will look properly authentic. I'll still have to change it when my weapon stats change, but c'est la vie

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03:54

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Bardic Wizard

05:59

Anyone know any good D&D5e spells dealing with time travel/time, preferably below 2nd level? I’m making a race that’s sort of shunted in time and I want spells to reflect that

It’s for a character that just died, my GM’s being lenient on the homebrew

BESW

06:49

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Himitsu_no_Yami

07:21

Can someone explain to me why Darkvision is a second level spell when so many races get darkvision (the feature) by default and there are easily available torches and/or light cantrips?

BESW

Feature creep.

Himitsu_no_Yami

Feature creep?

BESW

> the excessive ongoing expansion or addition of new features in a product

Himitsu_no_Yami

I don't follow?

BESW

A great deal of the time, the answer to a "why" question about D&D 5e is "because D&D is almost fifty years old and has been added to by countless underpaid, undertrained enthusiasts who feel obligated to satisfy the vocal minority of fans demanding slavish devotion to decades of tradition over a coherent contemporary product."

Put another way, darkvision is a second-level spell because darkness is a second-level spell and D&D worships at the altar of symmetry. Darkness is a second-level spell because it's too inconvenient (if you don't have ways to counter it) to be a first-level spell, but too easily counterable to be any higher. And there are so many counters to it because... [drumroll] they're traditional.

Darkvision is balanced against magical darkness, not mundane darkness, because magical darkness is immune to mundane light sources but cut by darkvision.

Himitsu_no_Yami

07:32

I was with you on "put another way" but magical darkness is also immune to darkvision so the next message has me lost again

BESW

Heh. They changed that back too? Okay.

Himitsu_no_Yami

> A creature with darkvision can't see through this darkness, and nonmagical light can't illuminate it.

BESW

Seriously though, I gave up long ago trying to find any rhyme or reason within the choices made by a given edition of D&D without going back deep into the history of the franchise. Especially 5e, which is trying to appeal to the 3.5 and 2e people while secretly not giving up everything the devs learned from 4e.

There's bits directly copy-pasted from 3.5 and not edited to actually fit the 5e context.

Himitsu_no_Yami

Somehow that doesn't even surprise me

BESW

So why is darkvision a second-level spell? Because it was in 3.5. Why do races get darkvision? Because they always have.

Himitsu_no_Yami

07:37

A part of me wants to take all the nonsensical pieces of 5e and make them all mesh correctly with what I feel the system is trying to do but that's way too much work

BESW

Why does this stuff not seem to make sense anymore? because the traditions were developed independently of each other.

@Himitsu_no_Yami Yeah, it was kinda frustrating to watch 5e develop because 4e was quite internally coherent. But there's so many other games out there NOT made by Wizards of the Coast, which fit my needs so much better, that it's kinda theoretical for me now. WotC wouldn't be getting my money even if they were producing a product that lived up to its marketing.

Himitsu_no_Yami

Wait

I forgot what I was gonna say crap

BESW

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Himitsu_no_Yami

I had a really bad but funny joke lined up about wotc but when I tried to make a new line and it sent I completely lost it

Something about them not being wizards cus int is too low but them actually being sorcerers cus they have high cha

I think if it ever comes up in my games I'm just gonna tell players darkvision is a first level spell comparable to mage armor in utility

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Someone_Evil

11:39

@BardicWizard Have you looked at the Wildemount stuff? I think it includes some low level spells too, but I'm not sure any of those are time

Medix2

12:03

Anybody got strong feelings on the duplicate-ness of these dnd-5e questions? I'd only worry since the answers are different amounts of complete "What do your base stats do for your character other than set your modifiers?" and "When are Ability Scores (not modifiers) used in D&D 5e?"

@BardicWizard I'd honestly say just the shield spell and "reflavor" the turning a hit into a miss as time travel

linksassin

@Medix2 Oh wow. Definitely duplicates but it isn't immediately clear which should be the target. Good answers on both

Medix2

I was trying to find a duplicate to this cuz I swear we had one. But looking through all the ability-scores questions gave me nothing so I guess I misremembered. But I did find those two XD

BESW

13:26

Pidj Sorenson, author of Graffiti Speak and A Shame-Free Game, has just started a Patreon.

Someone_Evil

13:47

@Medix2 I found two others, but I'm not sure whether either of them's actually a dupe

BESW

14:21

Sea Slug Game (twitter link) by SweetCyanid. Get on the floor or bed, whatever. Roll the dice.

user15026

14:37

@BESW I like this.

BESW

@Ash Somehow, I thought you would.

[grin]

Rubiksmoose

Here is an interesting article where they reduce the skills in 5e down to 5: Fitness, Speechcraft, Stealth, Awareness, and Knack.

AncientSwordRage

15:01

@BESW nudibranches !

@Rubiksmoose I love this kind of thing

Rubiksmoose

15:19

:) me too!

AncientSwordRage

@BESW talking of grins, did you ever get a name for you ghost hound?

Bardic Wizard

@Rubiksmoose that’s really cool! I love variant rules

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Joshua

16:06

How to make the DM regret sending a Tarrasque at you: open an all you can eat BBQ serving tarrasque meat.

Rubiksmoose

I mean, don't you have to eliminate the tarrasque first?

I'm assuming if the players manage to deal the tarrasque things have already gone sufficiently off the rails lol

Joshua

The trick is not eliminating the tarasque but rather chanining it down and carving meat off it forever.

HellSaint

@Joshua I... don't think... that would work... for a few reasons...

But if the players manage to defeat it I guess I would completely allow it

Tarrasque in 5e is kinda extraordinarily weak anyway :( give my little Lavos its practical immortality again

Rubiksmoose

Even the neutered 5e tarrasque would not take kindly to being chained and carved.

Joshua

Oh they got rid of tarrasque's regenerate in 5e.

HellSaint

16:17

@Joshua also the whole "you have to use a Wish spell to keep it dead"

@Joshua rpg.stackexchange.com/q/87280/43856 - Obviously someone has thought about capturing a Tarrasque before.

But in that case, for a Tarrasque Bomb.

Joshua

Is it just me or should power word kill not work on ghosts?

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Medix2

16:37

I'm debating answering a PTU question with "There is no benefit to evolving a Pokémon early"... but I'm worried I'm just not finding one

If anybody knows one I'd be very happy to know it (all I've got are very small things like Type changes and Ability changes)

AncientSwordRage

16:52

There's a setting someone made where civilization is based around a chained tarrasque

forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/…

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Mark Wells

@Joshua The Tarrasque is immune to barbecue.

Someone_Evil

18:17

Actually, @AncientSwordRage, can I borrow you for a moment?

Or really anyone with more than 10k and less than 15k rep on RPG

AncientSwordRage

@Someone_Evil sure

I'll bite

Someone_Evil

Cool, do you see anything particular on this post (on the q or when trying to answer it)?

AncientSwordRage

@Someone_Evil I spy a deleted spam answer

nothing else pops out at me

Someone_Evil

But you have no indication on the question itself that it is protected?

AncientSwordRage

nope

Someone_Evil

18:26

Ok, that's good to know and really annoying. Means a lot of new users don't really encounter the protection feature until they get 15k and thus can use the privilege without oversight. That'll be useful to know for the oncoming meta disc

Thanks for your time!

Joshua

I discovered I can answer the linked question. (I deleted my answer in 2 seconds or so.)

AncientSwordRage

@Someone_Evil I don't follow? What protection feature?

Someone_Evil

Yup, you should be able to. You have earned more than 10 rep on the site. But between those rep scores there's no indication of protection outside timelines/rev history

@AncientSwordRage Questions can be protected and unprotected so only users with 10 rep earned on the specific site (ie. no assoc. bonus) can answer it. Shows up as "Highly active"

AncientSwordRage

@Someone_Evil Weird. So under 10k, you see a warning? and over 15k you see you can't add the warning

ah ok

do both sets get a warning, just not in between?

Someone_Evil

No, under 10 rep there's a box explaining it instead of the answer box

AncientSwordRage

18:32

13 mins ago, by Someone_Evil

Or really anyone with more than 10k and less than 15k rep on RPG

did you mean 10 rep, not 10k rep?

Someone_Evil

@AncientSwordRage Yup, nothing to help you learn the feature from observing other users doing it

AncientSwordRage

@Someone_Evil interesting

Someone_Evil

@AncientSwordRage 10k earns you moderator tools and privelidges, which seems like a reasonable time to show you that info, but alas

Joshua

Ah I get it now. The protection banner does not show for me either.

AncientSwordRage

I think I follow

Medix2

19:05

@ThomasMarkov If you don't have the record for most answers in a one week period, I'm scared

Thomas Markov

19:30

Hahaha

I’ve even deleted two answers this week

Looks like 25 answers in the last seven days

11 of them accepted

It goes to show how many DnD 5e questions we actually get.

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KorvinStarmast

@Rubiksmoose there's a not bad idea, in the right hands. I can also see it generating arguments ...

Someone_Evil

19:46

@KorvinStarmast I take it you don't get arguments on the use of the normal skills?

KorvinStarmast

@Someone_Evil Why did you say that? Of course people argue if they see a situation through a different lens. That is one reason why the reductionist approach (which I don't dislike) will not solve that problem. Did we have Snarkflakes for breakfast today?

Someone_Evil

Ah gotcha. So that was more a point on something it doesn't solve rather than causes

KorvinStarmast

@Someone_Evil yes, and perhaps my brevity of expression did not contain sufficient wit/depth.

AncientSwordRage

Just FYI, I didn't read snark in any of the last few comments

KorvinStarmast

And for full disclosure, I would rather that Acrobatics as a Skill Proficiency didn't exist: I'd rather it was athletics, which makes Dex less of a superstat.

@AncientSwordRage Well, the tone came across as snarky to me, based on how that was constructed, but it's not a detriment to conversation ...

Someone_Evil

19:53

@KorvinStarmast I'm rather prone to agreeing with that

KorvinStarmast

@Someone_Evil nice pun there. :-)

Someone_Evil

@KorvinStarmast I'll apologize for that. Certainly wasn't intended.

KorvinStarmast

@Someone_Evil Thanks for that, and maybe my riposte was hasty, so apologies for that right back atcha!

Someone_Evil

@KorvinStarmast Entirely accidental :)

AncientSwordRage

What does acrobatics even do (that athletics can't)?

KorvinStarmast

19:55

@Someone_Evil Which is how I broke my hand ...

@AncientSwordRage indeed ...

The niche for acrobatics that I can see is in the Performance skill/Entertainer background. (And with a daughter who was a cheerleader and gymnast, all of that acrobatic stuff took quite a bit of training in strength as well as flexibility)

(I still grit my teeth at Gygax 'thief acrobat' in 1985 UA. gags again )

this from a guy who played a whole bunch of thief PCs.

AncientSwordRage

20:11

Didn't it used to be useful in 3/3.5 to get around people in combat?

KorvinStarmast

@AncientSwordRage tumble?

AncientSwordRage

@KorvinStarmast thats it

Rubiksmoose

@KorvinStarmast Arguments? At a game table? Say it aint so!

(just kidding of course, I can definitely see potential for argument if people were truly married to the kind of sorta-granularity that 5e offers)

It definitely throws things much more into the DM's territory as far as what applies where.

nitsua60

Apr 1 '19 at 18:09, by nitsua60

I had an (5e) AL gm throw the Tarrasque at a party trying to take a long rest in a dungeon as a random encounter. The paladin with a +27 to hit did a pretty good job of taking him down while the wizard who was immune to lightning damage kept nailing him with chain lightning, not caring about the reflections.
When you get your skull-pieces put back together, *don't* ask me on which planet that was AL.

MikeQ

20:32

@KorvinStarmast Wasn't the acrobat's main class feature to increase their jump height by fractional inches per level, and nothing else?

KorvinStarmast

@MikeQ I'd need to grab that book to get you a solid answer. Thief Acrobat was an attempt to capture a certain kind of thief and like the Cavalier ... was in a lot of ways messy

@MikeQ in a word, Nope. It introduced evasion, tight rope walking, pole vaulting, etc. You may be remembering an AD&D 2e kit?

MikeQ

Maybe? I vaguely recall reading it in the same source material where Fighting Man got progressively better employees per level.

KorvinStarmast

@MikeQ hmm, but that's been true for a long time, the fighter getting access to better hirelins as levels increase. (Though Charisma matters in that 0 through 2e)

checking 1e UA ...

@MikeQ I am thinking AD&D 2e DMG or PHB? not finding it in UA 1e.

AncientSwordRage

20:54

"Tumble is a contested check (acrobatics vs acrobatics). Page 272 has the full rules for Tumbling"

nitsua60

21:35

@MikeQ 3" per level during levels 6-15 on high jump, basically an extra 6"/12" on standing/running broad jumps through the same levels.

That tightrope walking gets pretty clutch, though. At level 15 you're still at 100% success rate carrying an extra 100# or in a moderate wind.

Gotta take a look at Appendix T while I'm here... so many polearms, so few polearm masters.

BESW

22:52

@AncientSwordRage Right now I'm just calling them Grim.

BESW

23:07

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Joshua

You know you've got a problem when you dispatch your opponent with Power Word Kill and he planeshifts back on top of you two rounds later.

BESW

Sounds like my lich in a bag.

Someone_Evil

Is bag lich similar to pocket wizard?

BESW

23:22

3.x demiliches get astral projection at will, and there's a relatively cheap at-will amulet which lets you planeshift at will with better accuracy than the actual spell provided you make an Int check that a demilich can't fail. If your astral projection dies, you snap back into your body. If your astral cord is cut, you die.

Demilich jumps into a bag of holding, casts astral projection, pops the bag from the outside, proceeds to only ever interact with the outside world via astral projection.

If you kill the demilich, they're back in two rounds: they snap back into the bag, cast astral projection, use their amulet to planeshift back to you.

Joshua

lol I didn't realize there was a way to actually do it. I found a few ways that were too slow but no fast ones.

BESW

If you snap their astral cord, they're back in the normal amount of time it takes for a lich to regenerate unless you find and destroy their phylactery.... but good luck finding the extradimensional space that used to be attached to a bag of holding.

It's a +8 level adjustment, I think.

I made a level 31 demilich PC who could cast as a level 20 wizard and a level 20 cleric.

Mark Wells

@BESW How does a demilich wear an amulet? Isn't it just a skull?

BESW

> Phylactery Transference (Su)
Headbands, belts, rings, cloaks, and other wearable items kept in close association with the demilich’s phylactery transfer all their benefits to the demilich no matter how far apart the demilich and the phylactery are located. The standard limits on types of items utilized simultaneously still apply.

Joshua

@BESW, In 5e due to what's probably an error in the writing, you can enter the bag, make the tuning fork for that extra-dimensional space, exit the bag, and planeshift back in carrying the bag. Trying it with another bag will be destructive.

Too bad I can't use that. My way of becoming a lich is streight up polymorph. No phylactery ever existed.

BESW

23:30

(The skull is traditional, but my demilich was his left hand, with the illusion of the rest of a normal-appearing body. That way he could shake hands with people.)

Mark Wells

@BESW Hmm, OK.

I was kind of hoping the amulet was threaded through the eye sockets or something, but sure.

Joshua

If I ever do find a way to make a phylactery, good luck finding it. It's gonna be on the near ethereal plane, somewhere.

GcL

@Joshua Isn't there a bunch of stuff on that plane that one wouldn't want to come across your phylactery?

Joshua

@GcL: The near-ethereal plane tends to be empty when the corresponding material plane location is inter-galactic space.

Mark Wells

@Joshua In that case what's the point of it?

GcL

23:44

I don't recall how space worked in Spelljjammer. Did that ever get a subsequent edition port? or was that just 2nd edition?

Joshua

@MarkWells: Staying alive. After the moon war that gave it a few new craters everybody wants me dead.

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