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00:15
Anyone watching The Witcher?
00:27
Watched it a while back, yeah.
01:17
All games by gamesfromthewildwood are 50% off to try and spur sales while Luke is between day jobs.
@nitsua60 my son and I binge watched it a few weeks ago. Enjoyed.
@Himitsu_no_Yami That was a joy to read and grin at. ;-)
01:47
@KorvinStarmast thanks, I stole it from reddit but thought you guys might get a kick out of it
 
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Q: Does a cantrip need to be learned like level 1-9 spells as a wizard in D&D?

TensorsFloatingDiscJockeyUpon hitting level 4, Wizards go from possessing 3 cantrips to 4. Additionally, "Each time you gain a wizard level, you can add two wizard spells of your choice to your spellbook for free." (from the PHB) Does the cantrip gained at level 4 take one of these two "learned a new spell" slots? I...

 
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08:25
@Yuuki I actually have a spell for poisioning things like ivy. Blight.
We're in the underdark at this point, so I expect to find subterranean plant enemies, which will be a huge plus for using that spell
Does 72 damage outright to a plant creature and outright kills non-creature plants.
Great spell for when you're vacationing in Elven Treehouse land.
08:53
13th Age first inpr
Mobile chat totally not first inpr
(And now for the actual first inpressions[sic]) for 13th Age: I am a bit surprised to learn there is a bit of setting inbuilt and that classes have varying complexity. (I'm glad they're open about it though). Superficially, things seem fun to play.
The relatively informal prose rubs me a bit wrongly at times, it feels a tad wrong? Calculated? Dunno.
09:06
The game does get very chummy, since it doesn't keep up the facade that it's more than two people writing up their dream d20 game. This also makes it seem a bit... unprofessional, yes. Amateurish, if not for the credits the creators had on D&D.
The setting is a useful tool for introducing people to roleplaying for the first time (something a roleplaying game meant for a wide market ought to be equipped for), especially since it's got narrative-focused mechanics like icon relationship dice and it's hard to expect people to know what those mechanics do without examples and it's hard to have e
 
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Q: Is there an appropriate place to specify class on a stat block?

StarSweeperEvery time I see a stat block for an NPC with a player class (bard, druid, etc), that class is not specified in the stat block. Is there anywhere where it could/should be specified when creating a stat block for a villain? Example: Ahmed Noke in The Wild Sheep Chase is a Wizard, but his stat blo...

12:17
@Axoren makes weeding easy eh?
12:48
@Shalvenay a few blades of grass an hour
I ended up replacing Bane with Daylight, since I'm a Celestial Warlock
Not having a personal Sun seems rather off-theme.
13:24
I really like how 13th Age frequently exposes author intent. Not that it's particularly special for the games I played in general, but it's a bit less usual for a game of this genre.
Does dipping into sorcerer help warlocks at all? What about paladins?
@Axoren seems like a good choice
@AncientSwordRage DnD 5e? Dipping into Paladin allows you to use Divine Smite using Warlock slots, which might or might not be a sweet deal.
@kviiri sorry I meant does doing into sorcerer as a {warlock, paladin} help?
I'm aware of the smitelock sweet deal
13:40
@AncientSwordRage Ah, so you are a Warlock-Paladin and consider a Sorcerer dip? I am not very knowledgeable about specific synergies so if something super sweet exists I might not know if it, but at least you'd have the Pact Magic slot to Sorcery point conversion which might be handy.
@kviiri that means I can burn slots for points right?
@AncientSwordRage Aye. I've never played a DnD 5e sorc (or any sorcerer for that matter) so you're probably a better judge of whether those points are actually worth the level dip.
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Q: Can I use Pact Magic spell slots gained on a short rest to gain sorcery points?

Rob RoseI'm planning on multi-classing in Warlock as a Sorcerer in 5e. I'd like to be able to use my Warlock spell slots from Pact Magic (that I regain on a short rest) to gain sorcery points. I'm inclined to believe the answer to this question is "Yes", because the Font of Magic feature does not specif...

@kviiri WOAH I never read that far down
@AncientSwordRage Glad to be of assistance :)
Thank you for helping me with basic comprehension
My concern is that paladin 3/sorcerer 3/warlock X is going to be really slow to grow into depending on what campaign (if any) I ever bring this character to
@Axoren what other thematic spells did you take?
13:48
@AncientSwordRage I was a programming tutor at the univ for ~10 years (Yeah, I like doing it) so I get that a lot x)
@AncientSwordRage Yeah, that's one of the reasons I'm not particularly fond of multi-classing myself. I sometimes wished we'd have played a campaign where it was mandatory, so I wasn't feeling like I was either gimping myself or building some overpowered, overcalculated exploit doing it.
And there are certainly good multi-classed builds, but if it's a build that needs to be perfected over several levels, it doesn't work for me. I like immediate power :)
@kviiri hah! I'm a programmer by trade so I should know better :p
@kviiri the main reason I wanted to dip sorcerer is for rp reasons
@kviiri it seems harder to balance at that point
14:13
@kviiri which uni?
@AncientSwordRage Helsinki
@kviiri sounds ice
@AncientSwordRage Yeah, it was mostly volunteering though
I like(d) it though
14:37
Trogdor ran a game of Goblin Court tonight for some friends, I got to watch. It was super fun and I have notes on revisions for v2.
@kviiri Have I told you about a recent rogues' campaign we ran at my school?
@nitsua60 Do tell!
Aug 21 '19 at 1:53, by nitsua60
Your discord name reminds me: I played in a campaign once called "The Hundred." The conceit of the campaign was that there existed exactly one thieves' guild in the world, and it took in apprentices 100 at a time. All of our characters were apprentices (level 1 rogues) when the guild was destroyed (while we were not on the grounds, for weak anthropic reasons).
So we all had 1 level of rogue, but from then on had to advance in other classes. Because there were no higher-level rogues to train us for advancement in rogue.
(I, being the total minmaxer I am, went Ro1/Bbx with expertise in athletics for overwhelming grapple/shove prowess.)
Hoho, nice :D
(When I'm playing with the HS kids who barely know the rules I like to optimize for something that's not going to steal too much spotlight/glory. Like "best paladin without a level of paladin," or "manual battlefield control.")
@kviiri He took expertise in athletics and performance, and was completely modeled after my childhood favorite WWF star.
(Proficiency in animal handling, too. Starting equipment included a sack and a python.)
14:50
If you want a Meta post to be updated do you open a new meta about whether to update it?
@nitsua60 I really like making characters who set up opportunities for other characters, like buffing or debuffing or positioning.
Specifically combining what's found here into this post
@BESW Those are usually my favorite type of characters. And then you finally get the party who doesn't utilize them XD
15:03
Next time I play Sweetheart I should re-tool her stunts to be even more support-focused.
@Medix2 For that specifically, open a question to update it. That Q is our guidelines for homebrew review, which should really be on the FAQ (IMO)
Or... what exactly are you think should be updated?
Well, the new question seems to state that Homebrew review questions are expected to explain and justify their decisions, which is not part of the current guide on how to write good Homebrew review questions
My wife is looking into whether or not essential oils will help with current insanity/crisis. She's been doing essential oils for about 5 years. My favorite essential oil is bacon grease. :-)
@Medix2 I'm always lothe to extend guidelines with a lot of detail, in part because of the "TL; DR"-effect
@Someone_Evil I agree, it's just if this is apparently something we want, I have seen it so incredibly rarely, and it missing from the guidelines isn't helping that
15:17
@Medix2 "Show your design decisions" is really just an extension of the first bullet point. As such, clarifying that describing how you designed the <stuff> is fine to just be updated in (see the comments below that answer)
15:50
@nitsua60 DDT!
16:07
@KorvinStarmast Mine is a good, hard-earned sweat.
16:51
@Someone_Evil I at least don't see them as being related or under that bullet, so I won't be adding it in. For me "what it should accomplish" is very different from "how you made the decisions you made in creation", idk, at the very least it's something I've almost never seen done
17:11
@KorvinStarmast they might soothe you if you feel panicked... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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18:17
Could someone who's played 13th Age give me a few examples of what kinds of Icon relationships they've had in their games?
(and how did they play out in practice)
18:30
@kviiri if you're ever open to running a chatizen 13th age, I'd be really interested
@NautArch Possibly ;) but it'll have to wait until summer at least. Important closures coming up
As a side note, just noticed there's a somewhat recent user with a 100% unselected answer rate for their questions
Sure, just ask 1 question and never select an answer. 100% right there.
@MikeQ okay, for someone with 8 questions :P
@kviiri I've been wanting to try it for awhile
I can continue on my first impressions a bit soon!
18:42
@NautArch There are many users like that, and 8 definitely isn't the maximum
I've read through most of the class descriptions. Some of them are interesting, others less so, but probably the one that struck a chord with me the most is the bard (yes, pun intended)
In addition to being a passable jack-of-all-trades support caster with some melee capability, the 13th Age Bard can sing songs that give lasting effects during the battle. Sustaining a song doesn't prevent you from taking other actions although it requires a roll to be successful. Finishing a song causes its effect to end but also unleashes a powerful "final stanza" effect.
@MikeQ that's disappointing
They also have battle cries that trigger when they make melee attacks. Similar to some other 13th Age powers, they may only trigger on certain conditions, eg. "a natural even miss" or something like that.
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Q: What happens when you attack with a non-attuned cursed weapon?

Max ColledgeCursed weapons often have a flat bonus such as a +1 associated with them, however the negative effects of a cursed weapon tend to only be associated with being attuned to said item. Could a player (who has previously attuned to a cursed item, then had the attunement removed by the Remove Curse s...

20:10
@AncientSwordRage No panic in me, but Mrs S has succumbed to the madness. She sent me out shopping (FFS, we have 3-5 weeks of food in the house if you include all dry good in the cupboard) and mentioned "and get some more toilet paper if you can find any." Uh, no, I did not.
But what I did do is buy five bottles of spirits: vodka, rye, Irish, Kaluha, and Bailey's Irish Cream. So she asked me when I got home "why did you buy that?"
I said "They had no toilet paper, so I figured I'd get that so that I won't give a sh**"
@KorvinStarmast I'm guessing you also have 3-5 weeks of toilet roll by now
You may send cards and letters to Korvin Starmast, niche à chien , Texas
@AncientSwordRage I also told her that I'd join the dogs in leaving my fewments in the back yard.
I have not heard it called "niche á chien" before 😅
@AncientSwordRage (I was hoping for chateau à chien but was not eligible for the upgrade)
Just take a few imodium, that should do you for a week at least
20:14
Or just stop eating.
No I like food too much to take such drastic measures.
@AncientSwordRage In a survival situation, food becomes optional, water does not.
@AncientSwordRage Or perhaps chateau du chien, there appear to be some dog salons with that name, now that I visit a bit of googleland ...
@KorvinStarmast Apparently, neither does toilet paper. :>
@KorvinStarmast hopefully it doesn't get to that stage
@kviiri I have figured out how to make an impromptu bidet out of the garden hose and the water sprinkler, so I'm good.
@AncientSwordRage unless we host half of her family, I think we are good for a few weeks.
@AncientSwordRage I roll survival checks with advantage. :) SERE school teaches many useful things
20:21
@KorvinStarmast I'm avoiding visiting family...
@AncientSwordRage My M-I-L doesn't quite grok that ... so she comes over whenever ...
@KorvinStarmast Bidet showers have an amusing nickname in Finnish: pyllypuhelin. "Butt phone". (There is also a somewhat more vulgar version)
sorry, that might have been more correctly la niche à chien
The younger generation might wonder what the phone part refers to.
@kviiri cackle that makes my day
How do I pronounce that: pill ee fu e lin ?
pill ee pooh hay lin?
20:24
Hrm, the y sound might be a bit hard. Let me think a bit
Does the voice on google translate pronounce it accurately?
Is it like an "ih" sound, hard end to a short I?
@MikeQ Yea :D
pill ih poo heh lin
"Close front rounded vowel"
20:26
This is why chatting with @kviiri is so much fun. stuff like this comes up. X^D
@KorvinStarmast ^__^
TIL today is "close front rounded vowel" is a thing.
Oops, there goes the water on boil, see you all in a bit.
I would've known it's a "front" vowel, that's about it. We have eight vowels in Finnish, with a, o, u being the back vowels, ä, ö, y being the corresponding front vowels, and e and i being neutral. You can usually only have front and neutral, or back and neutral, in a single word unless it's a compound word or a foreign term.
@KorvinStarmast I put my foot down at my misses request
The older folks often have troubles with foreign loans that "break" this rule, I'm not sure if that's true for the younger generation since we're generally more used to a more diverse set of phonemes
20:32
@kviiri that's interesting
20:50
@kent I've got plenty of thoughts about going online, if you want.
(And plenty of other chatizens, almost certainly.)
@KorvinStarmast meanwhile I do linguistics and have to worry about the cursed open-mid central vowels. I still cannot produce them despite my attempts
@kviiri My professor studies/studied exactly that phenomenon. Younger generations incorporate far more non-native phonemes into their loan words, sometimes making entirely separate methods/processss of creating loan words, demonstrably distinct from older generations
Though she specifically studied Finnish and Norwegian, so it's not particularly generalizable
There's an interesting case in Helsinki where there's a local slang that is built generation-by-generation
Older slang has very strong Swedish and Russian influences, occasionally German. More modern slang words tend to be English in origin
And some slang users make a point of using words that contain "mismatching" vowels, as a sort of shibboleth I guess
Eg. a neighborhood close to where I live is called either Sörkkä (matching front vowels) or Sörkka (non-matching, sounds distinctively foreign, specifically Swedish to someone not accustomed to it)
21:11
Meanwhile Japanese has I think three different strata (types/layers/processes) when forming loan words
It's weird recognizing the lack of vowel harmony, so understanding it somewhat but certainly nowhere near the reaction a native speaker would/could have
Who'd have guessed that no matter how much you study consonant and vowel harmony it's never really the same? (Trick question, everybody knew that)
@Medix2 I either knew that, or I just learned it from you. X-)
21:31
The way I'm justifying Blight is that it's more like I'm revoking a plant's sun-privilege.
Originally, instead of the Detect Magic invocation, I had the Silent Image invocation as a "trick of the light" thing, but I barely used it and no one had Detect Magic in the party.
Invisibility is a similar thing, I think at 15, I swap it out for the better invocation which gives unconditional Invisibility and lets me move with it.
My hands were kind of tied for a lot of my choices as a Celestial Warlock. Most of my best options are from the Patron Spells and I'm trying to avoid immediately obvious Warlock picks to sort of mask the fact that I'm a Warlock.
@Axoren What character sheet form is that using? It seems interesting
@Medix2 5e sheet on Myth-Weavers.
Don't know if I can in good conscience recommend the site after Rodrigo's Milkening (when he lost over a year's worth of people's content because he decided to delete the database during troubleshooting without backup)
I use it just because there isn't really a better sheet that matches my workflow.
22:00
Anyone in chat play much nWoD or CoD
22:23
Call of Duty?
23:21
@Axoren Chronicles of Darkness
Anyone ever have that Telephone game played with their character names?
My character's name has been devolved so much, it doesn't even have the same initials anymore.
Went from Daygo Jaurus to Gaillard Jenkins to various inappropriate derivations I can't mention, just because people couldn't remember Daygo Jaurus
23:49
@Axoren Every time initiative order gets written down
NautArch, YupIt'sAnArch
The perils of coming up with a semi interesting name
And yeah, it usually devolves to something inappropriate :p
@Axoren What's the setting? Star Wars?

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