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Rubiksmoose

00:45

@V2Blast Sometimes I leave the message up but edit out the name.

jgn

Could someone please link me the site rules?

Mage in the Barrel

Hey any tips for appealing to good aligned gods in pathfinder

Black Spike

https://rpg.stackexchange.com/help
any use?

Mage in the Barrel

quick recap, my character got hit my debilitating injuries and is stuck with 1 str, my options so far are a) find a way to pay for treatment b) hope a Good Samaritan will see my plight and lend me a hand or c) pray to my deity and hope for an assist. In terms of odds my best bet is begging my deity for a heal since she’s the helpful type she’d probably help if I ask nicely enough but that’s not exactly my strong suit.

Black Spike

01:02

@MageintheBarrel Don't know what PF gods are like, but I'd expect words like Penance, Quest, Pilgrimage, Worthy, to show up in any such events

Mage in the Barrel

Maybe she’ll give me a trail like that one that revived me

Black Spike

Or, instead of going direct, find a priest ( Greater Restoration ? ). Send in the Bard, to strengthen your negotiating position

Mage in the Barrel

We’re in a modern setting with low amounts of magic

jgn

@BlackSpike Thanks but I was looking for something a little more focused

Shalvenay

@MageintheBarrel what sort of debilitating injuries?

Black Spike

01:08

ah, ok. Still might be worth having a Priest on your side :) Someone to put in a good word for you

Mage in the Barrel

muscle degeneration

Black Spike

perks up my Rolemaster Healer can take other peoples' wounds upon themselves, and is always on the look out for interesting ailments! All I get so far is cuts and bruises! Muscle Degeneration? Nice! :)**yoink**

Mage in the Barrel

We do a thing where we roll our backstory 2 events per year I rolled disaster illness twice if you roll bad enough you end up bedridden and side effects can stick

Black Spike

(My level 2 spell might heal me in an hour. If not, it's level 12! We're level 3)

Mage in the Barrel

For what I got you roll d4+2 I rolled a 5 and 6

Black Spike

01:14

@MageintheBarrel Ouch, Reminds me of Traveller!

Mage in the Barrel

So -11 from my 12 str which was my dump stat

Black Spike

@jgn I don't know if there is anything else

Mage in the Barrel

You can get really good stuff too like a got a necrmicon replica that’s almost as powerful as the real one and a blade that can cut low level deities

Necronomicon*

Black Spike

In our games, recovering from such backstory events would either be nigh-impossible, or a major focus of play. How does everyone else feel about The Campaign being "Get on the Good Side of a Deity, to Heal Mage-in-a-Barrel?"

Mage in the Barrel

In our game everyone can choose a deity worship and can ask for favors and gain stat boosts or abilities. Well whether or not they are willing to help depends on the diety as well as many other factors

Black Spike

01:21

Cool.

Mage in the Barrel

Mine has the ability “plea for assistance” ai basically if I’m really in a jam I can beg for help and hope she’s in a good mood

Black Spike

We've got "Minor Favours" in our current game, but you have to basically spend a week praying, in a Sanctified Location.

Mage in the Barrel

on One of my old characters I died in a glorious battle taking my opponent down with me

As a result I was given a trial by a deity that took interest in me and no joke the trial was “power puff girl apocalypse”

Black Spike

haha!

Mage in the Barrel

they were put at Superman level of strength and being the amazing level 6 full metal alchemist alchemist that I was with the glorious ability to use fire alchemy that dealt ice damage I beat them through wit and the power if deus ex machina I mean weird potions tranquilizer guns and a long series of lucky rolls

But basically the same thing

I very well deserved that resurrection especially since I ended up breaking most of the bones in my body while I was at it

I’ve long since learned to suspend my sense of disbelief.

After a hit my 100th anime I gave up on trying to analyze fiction and just pretended everything made sense

Black Spike

01:33

@MageintheBarrel good plan :)

jgn

@BlackSpike Me either, thanks for trying anyway!

Black Spike

@jgn Anything in specific you're looking for?

jgn

02:16

@BlackSpike A list of rules :P But I don't think it exists. I'm talking to others in a different chat and I think it's sorted now. I appreciate the help though

Shalvenay

02:57

hey there @KorvinStarmast

KorvinStarmast

@Shalvenay Hi Shal, how you?

Shalvenay

@KorvinStarmast OK here, how about you?

KorvinStarmast

Some people seem to want to transition to rulesSE and I am not sure I want to participate in that.

been a long day, mostly frustrated. So best to turn off the machine.

Shalvenay

@KorvinStarmast yeah :/ there's lots of stuff that's not necessarily rules that we still need to cover

KorvinStarmast

RPG's are about people. Computer games are by intention limited by their rules/code.

(And it's a practical thing for computer games since the games break if the rules/code breaks)

Shalvenay

03:05

@KorvinStarmast cues DM in NWN having to chase down misbehaving mobs

KorvinStarmast

hehehehe

Cheers, amigo, and Merry Christmas to you.

Shalvenay

@KorvinStarmast and yes, Merry Christmas :)

nitsua60

03:18

@KorvinStarmast you might appreciate this: the boy and four friends are having a sleepover to celebrate the start of school vacation today. We played D&D. (First time for three of the five.) They entered a little village called...

Hommlet.

[cracks knuckles]

KorvinStarmast

Awesome! And Nits, I need an answer.

nitsua60

@KorvinStarmast Uh-oh--did I lose track of a question?

KorvinStarmast

@nitsua60 Kahlil Gibran ... you have any of his books?

nitsua60

@KorvinStarmast I don't think so.

[rummages...]

KorvinStarmast

You will have one soon, so don't buy any in the next two weeks.

Shalvenay

03:20

hey there @nitsua60, how're things going?

nitsua60

@KorvinStarmast Gotcha. Thank you.

KorvinStarmast

:) Good niteall.

nitsua60

@Shalvenay Intense. Many good things, some bad ones.

It'll be a good week to practice breathing deeply.

But I got to the gym with my wife today, and played D&D with the boy, and tomorrow... is tomorrow. It will come, and it will pass.

Not everything will get done, but that which does get done is clearly important.

Shalvenay

@nitsua60 ah. take it now would not be a good time to bother you with bizarro paladinish stuff?

nitsua60

@Shalvenay I'm about 7 minutes from trying to hit the sack--I've got to hit the road early tomorrow.

But you've got me for seven minutes if you want!

Shalvenay

03:23

ah, GN then

nitsua60

@Shalvenay Sorry. Monday I'll be through a busy patch.

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V2Blast

05:17

@KorvinStarmast I'd star this because it seems like a really nice gesture... but also the message would make no sense in context so I'll refrain

lol

Played a one-shot of Vampire: the Masquerade 5th edition for the first time today. It was fun :)

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Medix2

14:06

@Carcer I thought I made a comment on am anydice answer of yours and now find myself completely incapable of locating the question anymore. Did I imagine this or something?

Carcer

the comment you just made?

or trying to look up a previous one

Honestly, all of your anydice answers are incredibly thorough and helpful, with great explanations and they've helped me understand the program much better. I will add a bounty here when I can — Medix2 26 mins ago

Medix2

Yeah that, I literally cannot find that question anymore

@carcer Well now I found it ... Not sure what was going on

Carcer

who can know the mysteries of stack exchange

Mage in the Barrel

15:10

Do you guys know any good YouTubers for advice on role playing character types

Shalvenay

16:16

hey there @YuvrajSingh..., welcome to the RPG.SE lair :)

Yuvraj Singh...

Wow! Thanks for welcoming me.

Just for fun

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Xirema

17:08

@V2Blast What would you suggest as a proper way to word the section on magic items in my "Attack and Damage Rolls" answer? I've been staring at it from a couple different angles, and while I agree the current wording isn't great, I'm not sure what a better version would be.

Medix2

Is a question about how to model a d54 using standard dice (d4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 20) on-topic?

Carcer

@Medix2 don't see why not. I think we've had questions along similar lines in the past.

Medix2

My current "best" method involves rolling 3d6 and then using addition subtraction multiplication and division so it's... Probably not ideal

Carcer

roll a d10+d6

well, roll d10, reroll 9s, treat 10 face as 0, multiply by 6, add d6

think that's the simplest way you can get to a flat d54 distribution with normal polyhedrals

Medix2

17:25

Oh, without rerolls

Keeping the same mean, min, max, and standard deviation

My current solution is 9*(1d6-1)+3*[((1d6+1)/2)-1]+(1d6+1)/2

You can remove the +1's though if you round up instead of down

Mark Wells

17:38

I think that works, but it's kind of a pain to remember the formula at the table

Carcer

you must avoid rerolls?

Someone_Evil

@Medix2 Why do you need to roll a d54?

Medix2

@Someone_Evil A homebrewed effect with 54 outcomes... Yeah if it's more effort than it's worth I can always remove four options or just use rerolls

Carcer

honestly, just rerolling d% until you get a result that is 54 or less will be faster than doing that much math

Medix2

Ya know, that's probably true, and st that point your reroll d10+d6 option seems like a good idea

Someone_Evil

17:56

@Medix2 Or add more effects?

Medix2

A lot of this is because the player who'd be rolling this likes the mental math and doesn't like the feeling of needing to reroll multiple times. The result is also not immediately used, so its result doesn't need to be known quickly

@Someome_Evil Yeah I could also add six more effects

Someone_Evil

Also, do the outcomes have to have an equal probability?

Medix2

I suppose I haven't thought through what we'd be willing to give up (Accuracy, time, mental calculation, etc...) Ideally they'd be equal, or close to equal (though that's opinion-based)

Carcer

d6 * 8 + 1d8 - 1d8 gives you a distribution from 1-5 which has flat odds for 8-48 and tapers out at the edges.

anydice.com/program/191ae

from 1-55, rather.

Medix2

@Carcer that works well, I assume you just reroll a 55?

Carcer

18:11

or you add 1 more option

or make 1 and 55 the same

Medix2

True, true, yeah I was thinking about making them the same

Yeah I'm realizing now there's probably lots of ways to go about this

My own solution is this which I am happy with from a math standpoint though the others you've mentioned are definitely better for being implemented by people

Someone_Evil

For a person it might be easier to think of the dice differently. Using a d6 to emulate a d3, or d2 can be simpler than remembering lots of operations and doing them in the right order

@Medix2, Do you have any FATE dice?

Medix2

18:29

I do personally own an exceptional number of dice, so probably something equivalent, one sec

Oh, they seem to be fudge dice, so yes I do. @Someone_Evil

Someone_Evil

Then 9*(1d6-1)+3*1dF+dF+5, where F = {-1, 0, 1} = Fudge die

Mark Wells

@Someone_Evil All the non-flat distributions are very non-flat. Really, just roll d60.

Someone_Evil

@MarkWells I was more intending to have some outcomes with half or double the probablilty to the others, like having 8 slightly rarer outcomes, lets 54 be mapped to a d100. Or you could use Carcer's roll, which is fairly flat

I assumed then with 54 outcomes, it's going to be pretty high variance anyway, so some outcome rarity doesn't nesserarily muck things up too much

Medix2

TIL 3*(1d3-1) + 1d3 is equivalent to 3*(1dF) + 1dF + 5

Someone_Evil

Well, dF = d3 - 2

Medix2

18:43

Yeah, I did out that math as well XD

Yeah that's a much nicer solution than simulating d3 using d6's

And it makes the most influential die more noticeable since it's the only d6 being rolled

Thanks for the fudge dice (apparently also FATE dice) substitution then. And the rest of you for your suggestions (I've jotted them down as well for future thinking)

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Xirema

19:15

@Medix2 I mean, the easy solution is to roll a d6 and d10, treat the d10 as a 0's digit and the d6 as a 00's digit, and discard + reroll anything that's a 55 or higher.

Only caveat is that you have to subtract 1 from the d6 roll, because d6's don't have a 0 on them.

Medix2

@Xirema That was suggested earlier rerolls was the issue then

Xirema

@Medix2 So on average, you only roll twice, rerolling only once.

And the usual case is that you never reroll.

Medix2

Yeah that's, what, a 1% chance of retooling twice?

Xirema

It's a tiny amount cumbersome, but it's the universal method of creating unusual uniform distributions.

Well, it's a 10% chance to have to reroll once, so yeah, exactly a 1% chance of rerolling twice.

Medix2

Yeah that and Someone_Evil's solutions both seem quite good to me.

Xirema

19:19

You do have to be careful though: if you reroll, reroll all the dice, not just the one's dice.

Otherwise the distribution gets screwed up.

Medix2

Yup yup, got that jotted down already XD

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