TRPG General Chat

1:50 AM

Sean Nittner has started a GoFundMe for Sophie Lagacé's medical bills because despite being in a bad way financially the game designer, project manager, and event organizer wouldn't ask for it herself.

HellSaint

2:37 AM

How to handle this question ? (trying out link command lul) - it was editted and changed completely, so both our answers kinda don't make sense any more.

Rubiksmoose

2:48 AM

@HellSaint hmmm yeah in that case, your best bet is to edit or delete I guess :-/

It is frustrating when that happens...

skout

hello

I was going to ask a question on the community but I don't even know where to start.

I know how to ask a question I just don't know what to ask.

Rubiksmoose

3:18 AM

baby bird! feeding time?

Shalvenay

hey there @SimonH.

Mike Q

@Rubiksmoose Why is there only one eagle baby

Rubiksmoose

@MikeQ there was only one egg (at least there was for a good month anyways)

HellSaint

@skout to be fair, if you yourself don't know, it's hard we can help. You might tell us broadly what you want and we could help narrow it down with some questions, though.

Joel Harmon

@skout This is usually a decent place to hash out that kind of thing. Perhaps you should start with whether it's a player-social problem, or a system-rules problem.

Rubiksmoose

5:19 AM

baby eagle got its first food that I saw!

trogdor

@Rubiksmoose I really like that the chat latched onto this

Cute murderbirds are cute

XD

Rubiksmoose

@trogdor I do too! I would not have predicted it would be as entertaining or as popular as it is. But I sure am glad it is!

trogdor

5:53 AM

it's great

when I can actually,.... see any of it XD

I am not sure what it is, but generally when I take a look at it I get to see just about a minute of it at most before it stops working

could be how far away I am from there and or just Guam internet

I do still love getting the reports secondhand though

to be fair, I can't watch a lot of streams anyway

many of them are on a schedule that doesn't fit mine, and then I usually have similar issues to already described even when that isn't the case

David Coffron

@Rubiksmoose That made my day.

David Coffron

6:16 AM

There was a question that this tweet would have been relevant to about a spell that had an effect at the end of each turn or something (the question mentioned something about out of combat applications). I think you answered it @Rubiksmoose ; just can't remember

Nevermind, found it

kviiri

8:19 AM

Mornin'

Morning :)

@Kviiri BIRB!

[wave]

Hello people!

@Anaphory I found a sauna for you if you don't mind a bit of a punk aesthetic. Sompasauna, "the most public sauna in Helsinki", built by a loose group of volunteers on a disused pier.

@Zachiel I saw all three at the same time yesterday! (plus about two and a half fishes too)

They have got enough food there for a feast

BESW

8:28 AM

"Most public" is not a quality I would ever think of using to promote a sauna.

kviiri

Hah :D well, they did have a bit of a problem with the laissez-faire attitude some years ago

Zachiel

@kviiri I saw all three like five minutes ago

kviiri

There was a guy wanted to live in the sauna and since the structure wasn't exactly legal, they had some trouble getting official aid to extract the troublemaker

BESW

However, I do associate "punk" with "increased risk of communicable disease," so that checks out.

kviiri

Helsinki did eventually approve of the sauna though, and now they're renting the land parcel they're on perfectly legally.

BESW

8:31 AM

That's not very punk.

kviiri

Yeah, stupid city council de-punking the punk out of it :<

But anyway, "the most public" refers to the fact that there's no reservation policy or admission fees, you just show up whenever you please with firewood and water and get cracking. I've met some really interesting people there

One guy was a retired game designer for a "largish" game design company he wouldn't name. Not sure if he was speaking the truth, but he had some really good points about game design :)

By the way, could we get a mod star on the designer reason questions?

I think it's a fairly significant deal even if/because it seems rather one-sided.

BESW

IANAM, but I can do pins!

kviiri

Fancy!

Thanks!

Zachiel

8:59 AM

@Rubiksmoose I think it's just because those aren't the useful kinds of grease that you'd want to be able to create in order to ignite your enemies. The question is not "Is grease flammable?", it is "Can I create the flammable kind of grease?"

Anaphory

> Ask Finns for tips on how to enjoy sauna – they will gladly help you.

I shall do that!

kviiri

This image in Google maps is pretty much how it looked when I last went there: image

Empty pavement far away in one direction, sauna and sea in the other

kviiri

9:25 AM

The Satakunta osprey seems to be hanging around its nest regularly now: youtube.com/watch?v=noW4IFaCK28

Hmm, one adds half their level to pretty much every d20 roll in DnD 4e, am I remembering this right? Any notable exceptions except saving throws?

doppelgreener

@kviiri It applies to attacks, defences (though those aren't rolls), initiative, and skill and ability checks.

Zachiel

9:42 AM

@kviiri AFAIremeber, doppelgreener's list is complete, but I summarize it as "all 2d0 rolls except saves, plus defenses". My definition infamously failed when we met green slaadi, who have a d20 damage attack. XD

kviiri

Hah!

d20 damage attack, I don't recall seeing that ever

Zachiel

because chaos has high variance, I guess.

doppelgreener

Is anyone else getting this?:

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Q: Inbox and reputation dialogs won't load on sites other than MSE

Whilst the rep notification dialog is loading just fine on MSE... ... it's not loading on other sites I've tried (Stack Overflow, RPG Stack Exchange, or Board & Card Games Stack Exchange) and instead just loads forever: The same is occurring with my inbox. It's working exactly the same way...

kviiri

Works for me

Tiggerous

10:06 AM

Anyone else's company struggling under the weight of GDPR at the moment?

kviiri

Not a company, but the student organization I've practically retired from is enjoying its implementation very much

Tiggerous

It's a massive headache.

kviiri

(they also found out they've been violating the privacy laws even before GDPR...)

Tiggerous

We're having themed 'data deletion' days at the moment.

doppelgreener

@Tiggerous we're a privacy/security company so.... not exactly 8)

trogdor

10:10 AM

lol

Tiggerous

I'm not saying it's a bad thing.

doppelgreener

You're not a bad thing!

Tiggerous

But 'reconsenting' all 2 milion people on our mailing lists has not been fun.

Or, I should say 'attempting to reconsent'...

We're up to about 34% now, which isn't bad compared to industry benchmarks - more would be nice though.

doppelgreener

If only a third reconsented, probably only a third were reading your stuff anyway. :P

Tiggerous

Indeed.

doppelgreener

10:23 AM

(which wouldn't be surprising)

Tiggerous

No, not at all, once again a third is actually pretty good.

doppelgreener

It is!

Tiggerous

My job is writing most of the bumf we send out. It hasn't made me any more likely to read the stuff other companies send me.

doppelgreener

11:06 AM

You are a copy writer :D

Tiggerous

12:04 PM

@doppelgreener Which makes the fact that people ever have to edit my posts embarassing. But also explains why I have occasionally made edits to other people's posts that were deemed unnecessary (I'm too used to proofing everything for housestyle, rather than simply comprehension).

In case of most edits, I like to blame my phone...

doppelgreener

12:21 PM

@Tiggerous are you familiar with grammar hulk?

Tiggerous

@doppelgreener I am not. I feel like I should be...

doppelgreener

"DEPENDING ON WHO YOU ASK, THIS THING COULD BE TRUE OR FALSE" IS TRUE OF ALL THINGS! THAT POLAR OPPOSITE OF JOURNALISM!

Tweeted by GRAMMARHULK on January 28, 2018 at 1:22 AM in reply to GRAMMARHULK

"WRITE WELL" ALWAYS CONTEXTUAL! HULK ENCOURAGE YOU TO FIND YOUR OWN VOICE, JUST LIKE HULK DID! WRITE IN YOUR DIALECT! MAKE JOKES! BE CASUAL IN CASUAL MEDIUMS! SAVOR LANGUAGE'S FLEXIBILITY! EVEN USE ALL CAPS AND ONLY EXCLAMATION POINTS IF YOU WANT! https://twitter.com/Fox26Mike/status/955882996816601089

Tweeted by GRAMMARHULK on January 24, 2018 at 9:50 PM

whoever runs the grammar hulk twitter is, from what i understand, an assistant editor of a newspaper.

Tiggerous

I've given them a follow.

Tiggerous

12:34 PM

I think one of the problems with SE from a copywriting point of view, is that its' rep system rewards writing a passable answer to a question and publishing it as quickly as possible, tidying it up or expanding it later. Whereas IRL, it normally pays to work on a draft for a few days then publish something polished, i Stack five other people will have already answered by then and even if your answer is now appreciably the best it's unlikely to garner the votes to show it, any time soon, if ever.

Stack's rep system also seems to reward extensively editing posts another way too. Whenever an edit is posted, that post, however old, shoots back up to the top of the active questions lists, giving it a new lease of exposure. So the more unfinished your initial answer, the more often you can legitimately nudge your post back to the top of the list, without your edits appearing frivolous.

I'm not sure if people really do try to exploit this deliberately, but it seems problematic to me.

kviiri

Old posts are edited infrequently enough that I doubt anyone's doing it in problematic amounts here. I wouldn't doubt people doing it in larger stacks though.

doppelgreener

@Tiggerous yep. That's recognised as part of what's called the fastest gun in the west problem. Historically it's accepted on the basis it gives people a good answer asap and a better answer later.

Tiggerous

'Fastest gun in the West' I like that :)

nitsua60

@Tiggerous I think it's easy to take this thinking too far, though. Yes, fast answers reap early rewards and that visibility tends to snowball. But there's a knife-edge on the quality spectrum--if you post too fast and are below this threshold the downvotes come fast and hard. It may just be that the location of that threshold is in a different place than you'd expect in print publication.

doppelgreener

12:50 PM

@Tiggerous I don't think that works. If your answer is mediocre and there's a better answer, your edit bumps the whole question into view, then people check on all the answers. Then your mediocre makes another, actually good and well written, answer look good by comparison and it gets upvotes. Yours looks bad by comparison gets nothing or downvotes. Lots of effort for basically no reward.

Tiggerous

I see that. It's an interesting balance.

doppelgreener

Instead, have the awesome answer that gets upvoted in the first place, and you'll be riding upvotes from every bump.

Tiggerous

@doppelgreener Good point :)

goodguy5

morning nerds

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