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@Ben I kind of get that is what you are going for, but your wording suggests that it suggests the rules say this.

Yeah, I get that haha. Words aren't always on my side sometimes :P

Adeptus

FYI, Bundle of Holding is going all-out at the moment - they have bundles for Doctor Who RPG, Adventures In Middle Earth, Warhammer FRPG, and Cyberpunk 2020

@Ben I made an edit, does that look fine?

12:06 AM

Yeah :) Thanks for that!

@Ben No problem! :)

@Ben I suspect though that you might acumulate some downvotes as it is. You may want to start by saying there are no rules in 5e beyond the spells that OP points out.

FRwiki is not a great source.

@Rubiksmoose Well, that definitely will help.

Edited. I added a bit about this answer being about the "flavour" of it all.

Season's Greetings, Heretics

12:24 AM

@Ben That a true feat of engineering

I can't get over the name haha. It is fantastic "Gingerbreadnought"

Joshua

1:31 AM

@Shalvenay Nothing happened yet but my friend did tell the DM that relativistic weapons are possible in D&D with no details. The DM's only response was an explative.

Won't possibly know any more until next year.

Adeptus

@Joshua he's probably referring to the "peasant railgun" or something similar

Joshua

@Adeptus: Something much worse.

V2Blast

2:32 AM

@Rubiksmoose I mean, like most wikis, Forgotten Realms wiki is not an actual source - just a collection of information that cites other sources

Derpy

10:06 AM

> Today is Dalek Day.

huh

seems like the worst day

God REST ye MERRY WHOVIANS let NOTHING ye DISMAY A new EPISODE of DOCTOR WHO will AIR on NEW YEAR'S DAY. The SERIES that will FOLLOW THAT has BEEN POSTPONED, they SAY. Oh, TIDINGS of COMFORT and JOY. #DalekCarols

Tweeted by DalekRusty on December 14, 2018 at 9:40 PM

WE WISH YOU EXTERMINATION. WE WISH YOU EXTERMINATION. WE WISH YOU EXTERMINATION AND A DEADLY NEW YEAR! #DalekCarols

Tweeted by strandeddalek on December 8, 2012 at 11:09 PM

lol

It WAS the NIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS, and ALL through the SHIP not a DALEK was STIRRING because IT IS NOT AN EGG WHISK!!!!! #DalekCarols

Tweeted by DalekRusty on December 24, 2016 at 9:59 PM

I am glad they look so dang silly

otherwise I would be forced not to like them very much

anyway, I got the only hat I wanted all that badly

this year wasn't the best for it

maaaybe I would be happy to have the 2019 ones but I really can't control that

my main gripe with every Winterbash is how many hats require,... other people's input as well as work from yourself

Derpy

10:50 AM

@trogdor decorated a box in the office to kinda look like a Dalek. Coworkers are wondering why I did that.

lol

Axoren

11:10 AM

MikeQ's answer over here almost has 100 upvotes. Give him gold? rpg.stackexchange.com/a/137289/14873

Just spotted it while looking at the pregnancy question because someone reminded me of it

@Derpy Your coworkers have been judged, and found wanting.

hehe

AntiDrondert

11:33 AM

@Axoren Done what I could :D

12:37 PM

I've been playing this digital deck building battle game, Slay the Spire a bit and I like it

Decks of cards are a really neat randomization construct

1:13 PM

My experimental seven-page RPG BEARS IN THE DARK is out now, I guess. It's a barebones way to introduce folks to some of the mechanics of Forged in the Dark games, inspired by @gshowitt and @john_harper. Find it here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ThHp_XlMKVv6h8zIzfPnEJIL9uU1xWCuNnw90ot8ccM/edit?usp=sharing

Tweeted by itinerantmagpie on December 20, 2018 at 6:08 PM

nitsua60

1:33 PM

@kviiri I like them for monster AI; got hooked on that during Kingdom Death: Monster.

Yuuki

2:11 PM

@ACuriousMind For clarity, I have also posted this:

Mar 28 at 22:07, by Yuuki

A close vote is not a super downvote.

goodguy5

@Yuuki I almost flagged the comment but I wasn't sure the mods would take the joke well.

my comment was going to be "A flag for moderator is not a super downvote"

Yuuki

Well, we have stars in place of upvotes. It's not like having a rating system for real-time discussion is going to cause any trouble at all /s.

2:33 PM

@Yuuki I've always thought of it as an indistinguishable mix of: I don't think this question belongs here and I don't like this question.

VtC on questions that rubbed people the wrong way are basically super downvotes.

2:45 PM

Hey can I Get some opinions?

~Crimson, Sadistic Assassin (Pain)
~Captain Barkus, Half-Orc Barbaian Warlock Pirate (Heritage& Loyalty)
~Rinaldo Scarsi, Born Vampire Druid Noble (Connection&Attunement)
~Damian Henderson, Vampire Telekinetic (Pleasure&Limitless)
~Grandmaster, Warforged Monk (Selflessness&Self-Disipline)
~Amelia, Necromancer Bard (Fear&Peer Pressure)
~Lucille, Ranger of Dust (Preservation&Trust)
~Lucielle, Ranger of Dust (Preservation&Trust)

I'm thinking of these 8 as the start of my saga series for my youtube page I want to start, Which do you think would be a good story to start with? The ( ) says what …

@KaleDodge I like warforged characters because of their history and exploring the role-playing interactions. For as mechanically strong as they are, I find the non-combat disadvantages and discrimination interesting to explore.

@Colingross the warforges story was going to be one of how he became a grandmaster and a defender for those he cares for, a story of the struggle he has to be respected and cared for, but never truly with those who are close to him. His story is one of sacrifice and disipline

@KaleDodge Sure go with that. Being a defender is an interesting take if you can illustrate how those he's defending perceive him. Do some view him still as a tool of war and defending them fits with that perspective so they don't think of him as a full person? Does defending someone remind them of the original purpose of the warforged and that is unsettling.

Yuuki

suuuuuuupermaaaaaaaaan

Contrast that with a non-combat coming to the defense of someone. Perhaps an adventure to dig up some evidence to bring to light the innocence of a condemned person. Where the defense is purely diplomatic and verbal. Illustrate the myriad of responses to a warforged-lawyer.

Basically, the fighting aspect of warforged is the least interesting. Giving warforged reasons to fight is like throwing fuel on a fire. It's satisfying in the way that is totally expected.

2:59 PM

In his area of origin, they see him as nothing more than a tool, however he could always see the potential others had within and how to help grow that within themselves. he eventually went into the mountians and came across a monastery that took him in. There he learned top care for the mountain range, for nature and harmony.

He started to defend those who resided in the mountains, the monastery is a group he has to earn their respect and care and get them to see him as an equal but he doesn't actively try to achieve this rather he lets his actions speak for him. he accepts no one will ever see him as equal always lesser, this character is one who is much more of a talker, one who questions people so that they can answer their own problems and then grow into their potential

His story is just as much the physical fighting as it is the mental and social hurdles he must overcome

So where's the growth or change for the character. A stoic character that has to overcome challenge after challenge of different types is less compelling that a story in which the character changes over time.

Next it comes from the monastery, as he reflects on nature himself and the teachings of the monastery, becoming more self aware of the nature of the reality he resides in, as he becomes a better monk he does return to defending others but he does so not just for their safety and not just for the challenge, but for him he takes each encounter as a way to better understand those he both fights and defends

First it comes from leaving those he cares for, being confronted with that he cant just allow himself to be used and treated like any tool when he risks his very being for them.

He learns that he doesn't need to try and get peoples respect and care but he learns to accept that those who don't he does not need to invest himself into and to those who do care and respect him and treat him equally he begins to create true bonds with them that are free of any toxicity

3:15 PM

@KaleDodge This is a change from worry about the haters to not worrying about the haters?

A change for trying to change how people view/treat you to Accepting that what will be will be and to try and warp people to the way you want them is pointless

@KaleDodge Sounds good. Would not try to sell that to an American audience though.

Why not? Im curious as to your reasoning

@KaleDodge In general, American audiences like nice endings where everything turns out well for the protagonist. Like they were able to change the racist old man by the heart warming or touching events of the protagonist.

Darker story lines usually have a niche following. Clockwork Orange is a good example. The American version is missing the last chapter.

@KaleDodge Sure. You're probably not wrong, but it's a tough sell.

3:30 PM

yep. Im also going to be doing an "Absurd Alignment" series. basically explaining my take on D&D alignment and why my personal alignment system takes the 9 alignments and makes 144 alignments 108 I will be discussing

this will be fun

@KaleDodge The alignment model of the world wasn't a very good one to begin with. You added more parameters to make a better model?

If you're ever thinking about going into physics, you might be interested in m-theory.

pretty much

whats m theory

@KaleDodge A unification of string theories. The part that you might like is the solving some of the issues by adding more dimensions. I think PBS has a pretty tractable series on it, but I couldn't find the link in one search, so no linky.

Shamy

I probably would enjoy that

@KaleDodge Yeah. I chucked the alignment system altogether for 5e. If a player asks, I or the other players can generally tell them how the actions of a character are perceived by someone else. But having an absolute arbiter of good/evil law/chaos is not compelling, doesn't have mechanical importance, and makes for less interesting stories.

3:38 PM

I tell my players alignment is for CC only and its to help them discover their characters and nothing more

@KaleDodge Yeah. If they do fill them in, I read it as, "this is how the character perceives themselves"

accurate

Alignment reportedly had a very different role in the earlier editions. It was supposedly much more cosmic (Law & Chaos reflecting the character's views on creation itself) but has since gradually (d)evolved into personality box.

However, I've no idea where this is sourced from. I haven't actually played any of the older DnD editions

@kviiri 2nd edition had good/evil in a bunch of mechanics.

But yeah, alignment is one of those things I wish new players had never heard about. Probably thanks to DnD-inspired video games and alignment memery, it's got way too much attention outside the hobby

3:51 PM

After generating the abilities of your character, selecting his or her race, and deciding upon a class, it is necessary to determine the alignment of the character. It is possible that the selection of the class your character will profess has predetermined alignment: a druid is neutral, a paladin is lawful good, a thief can be neutral or evil, an assassin is always evil. Yet, except for druids and paladins, such restrictions still leave latitude - the thief can be lawful neutral, lawful evil, neutral evil, chaotic evil, chaotic neutral, neutral, or even neutral good; and the assassin has n…

1st edition D&D on alignment

I don't really get what problem they were trying to solve with alignment

@KaleDodge Gary was an interesting guy, and had a specific take on the kind of simulation he was designing. A cosmic good/evil was baked into that.

Yes gary was may he rest in peace.

The problems came in 2nd and 3rd and 3.5

@kviiri It made for a very clear delineation of "good guys" and "bad guys" which can be useful in how it simplieifes the world. Also, tends to fit well into the fantasy realms derived from Tolkien and classical mythologies.

@KaleDodge I think the problem was always there and the audience for these games has gotten more sophisticated and interested in telling stories together where alignment just gets in the way.

You do have a point, the playstyle of the game evolved and alignment was a problem'

3:59 PM

@ColinGross The first alignment system didn't have good and evil, only lawful and chaotic