TRPG General Chat

1:06 AM

Morning all

So... I can't remember the name of the game off the top of my head... But I believe we're going to be playing a game where the PCs are all animals.

We had a peruse of the character creation, and I plotted out a Raccoon Necromancer.

trogdor

right when you said necromancer you lost me XD

Ben

Haha

trogdor

I was going to say maybe GSS but that doesn't have classes

certainly wouldn't be a necromancer if they did

Ben

It also uses a multi dice system... I.e. I have 4 str, so I roll 4d6 on a str check, and use the highest dice

I believe it's an older system too

trogdor

Huh

No idea

Ender Look

1:26 AM

Can I ask a question?: Which dice system is better in your opinion: d20 or 3d6?

David Coffron

@EnderLook I prefer d20 because I like the sporadic nature. 3d6 is good for gritty realistic campaigns or systems where the extreme results are less desirable (imo)

Ben

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Wow... On the phone and it just went mad... Post... Refresh page, open link...

David Coffron

You can see here (easily if you click the graph mode) that the 3d6 results in more average results which might be favorable so that critical hits and misses and/or that more extreme cases of blunders or random success are less frequent

Ender Look

Ok, thanks

Ben

Anyway... As I was saying... I prefer systems like 3d6 or percentile. Less confusion with which dive to roll, so there's less focus on the rolling of the dice

Ender Look

1:32 AM

Percentile? Is good that? I've read it's difficult to use bonuses for that (like +/- 2, etc)

Mike Q

Percentile or percentage (d100)?

I like how dark heresy handles the d100 system because I have a better sense of my character's abilities

If my Weapons Skill is 60, then I know I (usually) have a 60% chance to hit things

In D&D/PF I know my bonuses, but the DC / target AC is unknown.

e.g. I roll some dice, get a 14. What does that mean? Do I hit?

Ender Look

1:48 AM

Ah, I see

Ben

@MikeQ I've only ever heard it referred to as percentile

But yes - I agree with the sentiment

nitsua60

@MikeQ Do the things have no way of impacting how likely one is to hit them? I.e. with a Weapons Skill of 60 am I equally-likely to hit a slow, lumbering target as I am a darting, unpredictable one?

Mike Q

@nitsua60 There are adjustments like that. But they're the exception rather than the rule.

nitsua60

Interesting.

Mike Q

Additonally, characters have a reaction that they can use to parry or dodge the attack

And in general, most characters don't have high enough characteristics (the number you roll against) to make combat too deterministic

Ben

2:00 AM

Yeah. I feel like this system is a bit more fluid in regards to players knowing what happens next. In D&D it's "hit and miss" until I know that a 11 misses but a 12 hits.

In DH I roll my hit, and I know that I've either hit or missed, by comparing my roll to my skill. Then the DM can interject and state the exception - this particular enemy has a really high dodge, for example.

Mike Q

@nitsua60 Right, so a slow lumbering enemy may try to use their reaction to parry (using their melee skill) whereas an enemy with high agility may try to use their reaction to dodge

Ender Look

2:20 AM

D&D5e: How much does weight a hempen rape, a bottle of black ink, a quill, a small knife, a letter, a belt pouch? And how much does they cost?

nitsua60

dndbeyond.com/equipment

Ben

@MikeQ we need to start a go-find-me-a-DM for a DH campaign. Lol.

Like a go-fund-me for RP

Ender Look

2:38 AM

@nitsua60 Thanks, sadly there is missing information there, like how much uses has a bottle of black ink, if the quill has uses or is forever, the capacity of a belt pouch (it has normal pouch) and the uses of a whetstone. Is that an official page or a fanmade?

Ben

Beyond is official

Mike Q

@EnderLook The PHB says that a standard pouch is big enough to hold 20 sling bullets, or 50 blowgun needles, or other small things.

nitsua60

@EnderLook That's the company that's partnered with D&D to provide their digital presence. (I.e. as official as it gets.) I don't see any "belt pouch" listed in the PHB (distinct from the simple "pouch") so I'm not sure what's missing? Uses of a whetstone? Whetstones aren't listed in the PHB, and they're not on D&DBeyond.

@MikeQ (As does D&DB)

Mike Q

@nitsua60 D&D beyond lists the whetstone but not much detail about it, or what book it's from

Oh whetstones are from PHB too, at the very end of the Adventuring Gear table, but I don't see it mentioned anywhere else

Ender Look

@MikeQ Yes, but does a belt pouch is a standard pouch?

@nitsua60 Isn't the belt pouch that bag PC use to store their money?

Mike Q

2:45 AM

It's a pouch

You can carry it or put it on your belt

Or put it in another pouch to create a pouch-ception

Ender Look

@MikeQ Pouch-ception?

nitsua60

@MikeQ [double-take] I was just looking at that page in my PHB and swear it wasn't there a moment ago. How'd you get someone here so quick to replace the page without my noticing!?

@EnderLook I think it's the nested carrying items version of the movie Inception.

Ender Look

@nitsua60 Ahh

Mike Q

If you don't want your pouch to get stolen, put it inside another pouch

And then put that pouch inside another pouch

Ben

And then mail it to yourself... And when it arrives... AHAHAHA-SMASH IT WITH A HAMMER

Couldn't resist

Mike Q

2:49 AM

@Ben Brilliant, I tell you! Genius I say!

Ben

@EnderLook I would suggest not over-thinking it. Especially for things such as quills and ink. For example, how would you determine a "use" for a quill and ink? 50 words? If it were up to me, I would rather not keep track of that. If anything I would just day that it's a "degradation over time" thing, if you do want to go that far. Otherwise, I'd just say they can but 5 pots and 10 quills and that'll do.

nitsua60

@Ben And even then, "degredation over time" is explicitly called out as part of what lifestyle expenses cover.

Ben

There you go :)

Mike Q

Now we're getting into spell component tracking territory

Ben

3:06 AM

Blegh. Haha

As a programmer, I tend to steer clear of having to do inventory tracking.

I write programs to do that for me :P

trogdor

Can you write one that plays the game for you too? :p

Mike Q

Well, if it's fair to assume that the wizard automatically has enough components to instantly light the room on fire, then it's fair to assume that someone who bought a quill at some point will have a quill later

Ben

@trogdor I could, with some effort. But that takes the fun out of it haha

@MikeQ A wizard setting the room on fire... By accident? Because that seems like the most viable situation.

Like they were reading out loud without realising

trogdor

@Ben well also it would miss the nuance your choices could have

You would have to anticipate every scenario possible for it not to

Ben

True

Joshua

3:19 AM

Well I got people not liking my question. Apparently it got closed because it's going to attract wild speculation and noise.

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