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trogdor
trogdor
12:00 AM
lol
hey, if the Oracle wants to fight I will fight
I have some issues with the Oracle sometimes myself
 
BESW
BESW
"Fractals of Context" would be a good name for a TV show about ethical science.
 
nitsua60
nitsua60
Jan 13 '16 at 4:21, by nitsua60
"BESW" would be a good name for someone who's job was naming things =)
 
Miniman
Miniman
12:38 AM
I'm occasionally deeply saddened by the fact that our platform has no good way to give joke answers.
The answer to this question is obviously that the rogue times their roll correctly so that the explosion hits during their i-frames.
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"What, you didn't know that rolling makes you temporarily invincible? Try it next time you're fighting a bear or something."
 
trogdor
trogdor
lol
 
trogdor
trogdor
1:28 AM
@doppelgreener I think I was asleep when you said this, and the ticker only just now told me you had pinged me, so reading the answer now
personally I don't have an issue with you using ideas like that in a question or answer
 
Baskakov_Dmitriy
Baskakov_Dmitriy
2:22 AM
I think, I have a new question for the Perfect Question award now, after that case with erotic roleplay question.

Let's say, I want to gather my friends for a party and want to play a tabletop game. Which one should I have chosen if I was a software engineer? I want it to have reaslistic rules about sexual relationships. Please, no house rule suggestions -- I put RAW tag to support it. My fingerbox is a 4-hole one, if it's important. [tag:system-agnostic] [tag:rules-as-written] [tag:game-recommendation] [tag:alignment] [tag:FATAL]
 
mxyzplk
mxyzplk
3:02 AM
@doppelgreener Thanks to dopplegreener, enjoy your Extra SeXXXy RPG.SE Weekend!
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BlueMoon93
BlueMoon93
ar the top questions in the newsletter hand picked?
or is it an automated algorithm?
nvm, i realize what went wrong
 
nitsua60
nitsua60
3:28 AM
@Baskakov_Dmitriy I think after this comment that I now have a better handle on your ERP question. Is it, succintly stated: "I am going to set up this type of server, I have seen these undesirable things happen, how do I set up the server to discourage the negative things?"
 
Baskakov_Dmitriy
Baskakov_Dmitriy
4:10 AM
@nitsua60 Isn't it the way it is formulated right now?
 
BESW
BESW
4:57 AM
Since so many people have seemed confused by it, and someone just now saw the need to ask if they're right about concluding that's what it's about... it'd be safe to say that no, the question is in some way failing to communicate its intended content.
 
LegendaryDude
LegendaryDude
5:37 AM
So many sexuality questions being bumped
@doppelgreener :P
 
 
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Raven Dreamer
Raven Dreamer
6:52 AM
👀
 
 
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Urist McDorf
Urist McDorf
8:36 AM
@Baskakov_Dmitriy Not too familiar with the Russian servers (a friend of mine is), only ever played /tg/ and just a bit of Baystation. It's not a "hell" as you say IMO (ere I wouldn't be one of the lead (admin/coder/designer/moderator)s on /tg/ for like a year and a half and I wouldn't love it like someone would love a misshapen pet who should be put out of its misery and I wouldn't want to make a game inspired by it currently) but it's definitely a problematic game.
 
doppelgreener
doppelgreener
9:09 AM
@mxyzplk ;D
Truly this was my plan all along
 
Baskakov_Dmitriy
Baskakov_Dmitriy
9:37 AM
@BESW How could it be possibly fixed?
 
 
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doppelgreener
doppelgreener
12:54 PM
@LegendaryDude Yeah, turns out we have a few. I figure since it's such a difficult topic to broach or ask about in Western culture, having a readily accessible knowledge base around handling it -- as well as some lessons about what not to do ever -- is pretty valuable.
 
nitsua60
nitsua60
1:47 PM
Chatizens--I've made an edit to BD's ERP question that I think makes it a little clearer there's a real problem to be solved, not some hypothetical. I hope it's worth a second look.
@doppelgreener lots of +1 flowing back in as "covert rolls" answers are being deleted =)
 
RollingFeles
RollingFeles
hey @nitsua60!
 
nitsua60
nitsua60
Hiya =)
 
RollingFeles
RollingFeles
How're things?
 
nitsua60
nitsua60
I had a fun session last night. How 'bout you?
But now I go to work in six minutes =(
 
RollingFeles
RollingFeles
Prepping second session for my second group =)
First one is on hold for some time.
 
nitsua60
nitsua60
1:54 PM
Cool--system?
 
RollingFeles
RollingFeles
Looking forward to that, because first session was great.
DW =)
 
nitsua60
nitsua60
Ahh... How're fronts coming along?
(I must admit: I still find the presentation of fronts, impending dooms, dangers, &c. a little wonky. Maybe it's just that I need a better fronts-sheet?)
 
RollingFeles
RollingFeles
I was watching Darkest Dungeon trailer in steam and idea of powerhunger demon summoning strucked me.
Now, I want my players to help some cult without knowing it.
 
nitsua60
nitsua60
All while somehow being their fan?
=D
 
RollingFeles
RollingFeles
I run only 3 session. And it's second time I'm trying to work with fronts
Yeah. Actually, they don't like guys who gave them the job.
 
nitsua60
nitsua60
1:57 PM
Actually do have to run now--class starts in 2 min. Good luck!
 
RollingFeles
RollingFeles
They lost first encounter because they left VIP they had to protect without cover and enemy leader took him as hostage and forced them to work with him in the end.
Good luck! =)
 
Shalvenay
Shalvenay
hey there @RollingFeles
 
RollingFeles
RollingFeles
Dear chatizens! Can you recommend me some tool for keeping game notes with formatting features? For now I use VS code because you can just open it in a folder and it will work with it as with project directory. Which is very convinient. But I still wasn't able to find vs code extension for formatting(bold, headings, etc.).
@Shalvenay hi! =)
 
Shalvenay
Shalvenay
how're things going?
 
RollingFeles
RollingFeles
Good! Looking forward to run game tommorow. Also, few days ago, my company rewarded me among others most hardworking employees of 2016.
 
Shalvenay
Shalvenay
2:07 PM
nice
 
RollingFeles
RollingFeles
How're yours?
 
Shalvenay
Shalvenay
still trying to get that online 5e game straightened out schedule-wise, although the AD&D game is going OK
 
RollingFeles
RollingFeles
Any more shenanigans from your gnoll? :)
 
Shalvenay
Shalvenay
hoping the party has change for a ---$20---gold piece or three -- if they do, then it's time for an improv silvering of my char's quarterstaff so that she can deal with lycanthropes
not yet :)
on a different note, I've been watching a bunch of bosnianbill's videos on youtube
it's been making part of me want to get a few junker padlocks, a few picks, and a tension wrench and give it a whirl IRL
 
RollingFeles
RollingFeles
=)
what
I just googled him and spen several minutes for his video
bam, and I forgot what was my plan prior your message.
 
 
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BlackVegetable
BlackVegetable
4:46 PM
Just opened up my magical weapons list for Dungeon World to the general public: docs.google.com/document/d/…
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RollingFeles
RollingFeles
@BlackVegetable thanks! =)
 
LegendaryDude
LegendaryDude
5:01 PM
@RollingFeles Microsoft OneNote
 
RollingFeles
RollingFeles
@LegendaryDude thanks for suggestion! Never thought about that.
 
LegendaryDude
LegendaryDude
Its the ideal application IMHO
for campaign tracking and planning
@RollingFeles cryrid.com/dnd/?page_id=153 Cryrid has a great blog about using OneNote for GMing. He runs D&D 5e but the concepts can be taken to any system.
 
RollingFeles
RollingFeles
Thanks! I'll take a look at that.
 
 
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BlackVegetable
BlackVegetable
7:13 PM
I'll probably add to the magical weapons list over time for a long time. Eventually I'll need to decide on an ordering. Alphabetical is one option. Any other suggestions?
 
BlackVegetable
BlackVegetable
7:24 PM
(going mostly AFK. Got a Dungeon World game to GM!!)
 
 
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Anaphory
Anaphory
8:48 PM
@BlackVegetable Yay! (For GMing DW, not for you being AFK)
 
Grubermensch
Grubermensch
9:19 PM
@RollingFeles I predominantly use Google Drive for campaign info, since it's easier to share content (like setting info or artifact statblocks) with my players. I don't really take digital notes while running the game though, if I need to I'll usually jot notes down on paper and type them up afterward.
 
Shalvenay
Shalvenay
hey there @Grubermensch
 
Grubermensch
Grubermensch
hello
 
Shalvenay
Shalvenay
how're things going?
 
Grubermensch
Grubermensch
in and out right now, doing weekend chores
 
Shalvenay
Shalvenay
hey there as well @Axoren
 
Axoren
Axoren
9:22 PM
@Shalvenay Yo.
 
Shalvenay
Shalvenay
what's up?
 
Axoren
Axoren
I dropped by because I had a question. Has anyone seen the X card used in a non-intrusive way that allows games to continue in a safe and comfortable way rather than halt altogether?
 
Shalvenay
Shalvenay
@Axoren personally, if a game is diverging that badly, I'd rather see it stopped until the participants can all get on the same page once again. state divergence occurs very quickly once it starts, and can make a hash of any player's best intentions. (think of it like a "stop the line" in some sort of safety-sensitive work environment)
 
Axoren
Axoren
Recently, there's been issues with a previous campaign because some players didn't like the overall dark tones of a campaign that was advertized from the get-go to be a harsh and gritty story.
But it was more of a matter of the difference in player expectations within the whole group.
 
Shalvenay
Shalvenay
@Axoren there's also a difference between "dark" and "harsh/gritty" as well
 
Axoren
Axoren
9:25 PM
@Shalvenay While that is true, both were advertised in explicit detail at the beginning.
 
Shalvenay
Shalvenay
@Axoren nods
 
Axoren
Axoren
And the X card was not used in this campaign
No player has any trauma and we are otherwise a close-knit group with only a handful of outsiders
Who are also being slowly assimilated into the larger group
But I was wondering if including it in such a group for future attempts would be a good idea.
The X card concept, to me, looks like a way to divert or repaint an aspect of the campaign at a moment's notice for any reason
And it's not clear if that has a positive impact on the group story-telling aspect of the game.
 
Shalvenay
Shalvenay
@Axoren I'm probably the wrong person to ask on that because I emphasize convergence of state over flow of the game rather strongly, myself
 
Axoren
Axoren
For example, if one character's development would be halted from being directed away from an in-character traumatic experience because another player wasn't comfortable with the direction of the plot, how are those situations resolved in a fair way?
Convergence of state?
 
Shalvenay
Shalvenay
@Axoren i.e. making sure that all the players have the same game-state (where characters are, what they're doing, etal) in their heads
 
Axoren
Axoren
9:30 PM
Well, the X card is designed to redirect the entire state, no just one person's interpretation of it, I thought
 
Shalvenay
Shalvenay
@Axoren it is indeed.
 
Grubermensch
Grubermensch
@Axoren The X card wins. Always. That's how it's supposed to work.
 
Axoren
Axoren
@Grubermensch I understand that's the intention, but I'm not sure if it actually works.
As I haven't seen it or heard any personal experiences with it from people who aren't actively pushing the concept.
I was hoping to hear from someone who's used it but I'm skeptical of the people who advertize it.
It's an odd position to be in
 
Grubermensch
Grubermensch
If you are finding yourself in the situation where some of your players are consistently having a conflict like this, then you need to talk about it with your group, and some of your players might be better off leaving the game.
 
Axoren
Axoren
@Grubermensch That's the route we took this time.
Some players left. Some took a break while others have decided to stay out entirely.
I've heard of like one or two games, where an X card was in use and the player from those games had a lot of disdain for it, so I'm trying to avoid their bias and seek out other opinions.
 
Shalvenay
Shalvenay
9:34 PM
speaking of awkward playstyle problems -- how do you deal with other players attempting to drag you into tribal politics, basically, when you yourself can't turn off your policy wonk side very effectively at all?
 
Grubermensch
Grubermensch
The purpose of the X-card (and similar mechanics like the Red Rule, which I'm familiar with) is to say "this is a place where everyone at the table has a right to be comfortable". Once you deny that in favor of another player's enjoyment, you've broken that contract with your players.
 
Axoren
Axoren
@Grubermensch Then how does one redirect the game to a comfortable state for all players?
That is the issue I'm trying to resolve at this point.
 
Grubermensch
Grubermensch
If this is a recurring thing, it's probably not possible. That why repeated clashes usually mean someone needs to leave the game.
 
Axoren
Axoren
Is doing that possible in the general case without halting play entirely?
It seems like after invoking the X card, there would have to be a period of negotiation of what alternative consequences to effect upon the plot
And in many cases, there's no logical consequence but to rewind and pretend it never happened.
 
Grubermensch
Grubermensch
I would always stop the flow of play if one of my players has gotten really upset as a result of what is happening in game. This doesn't necessarily happen every time, some people will just be like "X card, nope" and if you can roll with it quickly and they seem okay, then just continue playing. But if someone is not able to play, you should respect that and call a short break in the session so they can calm down.
The thing about having explicit conventions like the X-card, is that you will generally get stopped really early in the scenario, when there isn't much need for retcon.
 
Axoren
Axoren
9:40 PM
@Grubermensch So it looks like the difference in expectation is the assumption of physical discomfort, rather than just distaste.
The X card is designed for a much more supportive environment, than just story redirection
In the case of someone with actual trauma or issues with certain plot elements.
 
Grubermensch
Grubermensch
It's about the intensity of it. You don't want to run a game while one of your players can't participate, especially if the game is the reason for it.
 
Axoren
Axoren
So then it would probably be better within my group for us to just discuss plot direction regularly
 
Grubermensch
Grubermensch
Yes. If a player is trying to use the X-card just to get out of situations that are inconvenient for their character, that cheapens the meaning of the rule and is something you should address out of game with them as soon as you notice it.
 
Axoren
Axoren
Yeah, the disdainful friend of mine cited a player using the X card to avoid character player death
But from how he said it, the person was using the card as intended, not cheese
The way I worded that as "player death" felt off because it was like they used the X card to physically defend themselves, lol
 
Grubermensch
Grubermensch
Yeah, I would not consider that a valid use. Though a similar example could be if you have a GM who is very in to describing the whole death scene, and a player X-cards that. In that case, the GM should just stop, immediately. Death happens, moving on.
 
Baskakov_Dmitriy
Baskakov_Dmitriy
9:46 PM
Continuing discussion of this question's right to live.
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Q: How to deal with unwanted erotic roleplay on a roleplaying-focused server of a sandbox video game?

Baskakov_DmitriyI am going to start a Minecraft roleplaying community soon. In the past I have seen people be forced into ERP (erotic roleplay) on a server like this. This has made people leave the community, and I don't want that to happen on my server. The game is not constantly supervised by GM and is done...

play-by-chat sexuality videogame-role-playing
 
Grubermensch
Grubermensch
^ oh dude, red rule right there
 
Shalvenay
Shalvenay
hey @Axoren and @Grubermensch -- mind hopping over to the NAB for a bit? got a question about RPed politics that I want to throw by you folks
 
Grubermensch
Grubermensch
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@Axoren player character death is often a touchy subject, and so I recommend being clear with your players about how you want to approach it. If you really get invested in a character and then they just die from bad luck, that can be incredibly demoralizing.
 
CTWind
CTWind
@Axoren Now I'm picturing a game that uses an X-card-like mechanic, except it functions as an improv 'Change!' call.
 
Grubermensch
Grubermensch
One strategy can be to explicitly warn your players when they're walking into a situation "with the gloves off", that is, a situation that could easily end in character death
 
Axoren
Axoren
9:52 PM
@Grubermensch Generally, I welcome the blades of death upon my characters as I see it as a meaningful tier of character development. At that point, I leave it to my party to decide if they will accrue funds to raise my corpse.
Generally, it's been half and half with whether or not they res me.
I know some other players who depend on character death for emotional reasons
Where their characters are getting too close emotionally to the player themselves and the relation needs to be terminated in someway
 
Grubermensch
Grubermensch
Sure, and that is totally fine, but it's important that the whole group is on the same page about this, because it can be very jarring to find yourself on a different page.
 
Axoren
Axoren
Either by their character going off on a voyage, or dying like a warrior in battle
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
@Baskakov_Dmitriy ... should probably be in Meta.
 
Axoren
Axoren
But some players, I've seen so attached to their characters that the fact of dying has the opposite effect.
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
just saying.
 
Axoren
Axoren
9:54 PM
Instead of closure, they get the reverse: they don't learn what their character's potential was
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
also, greetings to you all :)
 
Axoren
Axoren
@ThomasWard Yo
 
Baskakov_Dmitriy
Baskakov_Dmitriy
@ThomasWard Happened in comments, I suggested there to move it to chat.
 
Axoren
Axoren
@CTWind I like the idea of those kinds of mechanics when intended and constrained
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
@Baskakov_Dmitriy I'd give it its own discussion room though, if it were me... Not my call though right now, I'm busy with other things
 
Baskakov_Dmitriy
Baskakov_Dmitriy
9:56 PM
Thanks.
 
Axoren
Axoren
It would be nice for a game to have that as a risk-reward system
Players can change any unmentioned aspect about the game, but then the DM gets to twist it like a nasty little genie.
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
@Axoren (DM is god heh)
(basically)
 
Axoren
Axoren
DM: "One of the bandit shouts UNLEASH THE HOUNDS!"
Player: "Improv! The hounds use the corgi entry from the bestiary instead of whatever they were supposed to be."
DM: "Twist, they also gain the advanced template and a legendary action."
@ThomasWard While I understand that the DM has executive authority over the game, I think DM responses to player actions should have some guidelines or set rules, to some extent
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
true, and agreed, but that wasn't the point of that statement, sorry for not being precise enough. :)
 
Axoren
Axoren
I don't follow, then. Sorry.
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
10:00 PM
> but then the DM gets to twist it like a nasty little genie.
^ read my message as follows: "as if the DM is god"
 
Axoren
Axoren
Ah, I follow
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
in that following the player actions is a good thing, but the DM has to some extent the ability to tweak things in accordance to player actions for the good of the campaign
returns to silence :)
 
Axoren
Axoren
Of course, otherwise everyone would be riding Lizard-Corgi Hybrids into battle with their Lightsabers, in 3.5e
 
Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward
:P
 
Axoren
Axoren
You normally need to be an Artificer for that
 

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