@BESW *shudder* And all my years of paranoia about Adobe's automatic updates are validated again. Far as I can tell, they have some serious institutional problems with how this critical piece of software is designed/coded/maintained.
@BESW Indeed, I may be being unwarrantedly fair. Much as I dislike the practice in general, I'm kinda hoping that Apple's attempt to kill off Adobe's browser presence works.
@BESW Hence all the money poured into getting end users heavily invested in only knowing how to do their workflow in Adobe's software. (I know lots of artists, and I know software. They can't reasonably move between softwares without abandoning chunks of what makes their output look the way it does. Lots of inertia.)
Happily my niche is based less on product looking a certain way, and more on my ability to design in ways that navigate cultural contact zones and intersectionality.
@Emrakul alright, had a question get up to 4 reopen votes and then they all went away :p
on a different note -- a conversation in IRC actually had me pondering what a RPG.SE convention panel for some TTRPG convention somewhere would look like
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Yeah, I think they age away like close votes do. And close votes are 1/day if >100 views, or 1 biweekly if <100 views.
We'd need a heat-resistant room for the panel, because Trogdor. And a ceiling hook for SSD to come swinging in on while shouting, "Narrative before mechanics!"
We have long held the belief that @BESW would consume the world should the entire star panel be his. Maybe, this is our chance to imprison him forever, by depriving him of his presence there!
I have to leave for some time. Got to work. Actually, got to go to tea break at work. Eat pizza and cakes. Drink coffee and chat with colleagues. I love my job.
@trogdor that's just a part of my job. We have two defined tea breaks during workday. And yesterday two colleagues bought pizzas and cakes for their birthday celibration. Usually, it's just tea/coffee and cookies(sponsored by company).
I got a cool idea for a one-shot dungeon. It's a dungeon built around housing the ring of [PCs + 1] wishes and the party is racing against the BBEG to it. Depending on how they do in previous encounters he'd be already on the spot trying the ring on OR they'd arrive just as he spends a wish. In the ensuing combat he'd spend a wish every time he feels safe so the main objective of the fight would be to harry him as you kill him and the ring's infinite minions.
I'll probably try it in the 4eLite one-shot I'll be running to test it out.
I've done infinite waves of minions in 4e, it works out well if the point of the scene is to accomplish a task under pressure.
Probably the most successful use was escorting a king out of his capitol while it was being invaded.
Each encounter was basically "get the king to the other side of the map" in spite of the hazards presented by rioters, soldiers, structural collapse, magical siege attacks, etc.
One map was just some city streets with soldiers. Each round added an increasing number of enemies: one minion, two minions, three minions, one Standard, five minions, six minions, seven minions, one Elite, nine minions...
Or something like that, I can't recall the exact formula.
[rummages through old notes]
Ah, here we go. "Start with six [standard brutes]. Every round after the first, X - 1 [minion skirmishers] join the fight against the Raja (where X is the number of rounds of combat). When four [minion skirmishers] would join the fight, instead another [standard brute] does."
The soldiers had an at-will ranged 3 attack which pulled and slowed the target, and once per encounter they could add a melee standard attack which proned the target if it hit.
They used it to try and keep the king from escaping.
But to keep it from being an Awful Escort Mission of Awfulness, I made the king awesome: granted his citizens +1 to attacks if they stood near him and got +1 to defenses for each ally next to him, could heal once per encounter, and whenever a nearby ally got forcibly moved he could slide them one square afterward.
Nah, the party was level... 4, I think?
And there was a lot of rubble and obscuring/dazing fire and smoke.
I also got inventive with ways to force them to keep moving from encounter to encounter without rest, but not make it just one long grueling encounter.
> Drinking from this Primal-blessed fountain (standard action) dazes the drinker (save ends). On a successful save the drinker recieves the effect of an extended rest.
That fountain was only available for one encounter, in the middle of combat.
Level 5 Elite Controller, gnoll priest of Yeenoghu. Once per round as a minor action can summon a hyena spirit (minion soldier, slows anyone who starts their turn adjacent to the spirit). Once per round as a minor action can grant a minion a free bite attack with +2.
Has a ranged attack which, if it hits, teleports an existing hyena spirit to a square next to the target.
I had a surprisingly fun (for me anyway) character. Though being pestered by the party's resident charopper to make this and that was annoying.
In the end had to use a whip instead of a spear just to get them to cool off. Even though with a sun theme there's only one choice for weapon and that's a spear.
I remember looking at Paladin stuff, seeing "Bless Weapon" at 2, and deciding I wanted to build around that. Wound up rolling a crit-fishing paladin of Pelor. I think I crit for over 100 at level 9 one time.
Very narrow timespan in which I did a lot of damage, but that round was fun :-p
4e fighters are usually very sticky. "Come near me and I'll never let you get away!" This guy was "Come near me and I'll send you to the corner to think about what you've done!"
Man, the biggest mindblow in 4e to me was my first campaign where the DM actually did a session with the encounters per day guidelines- I'd been playing for, like, over a year at that point without having done that.
@BESW One of my DMs did that but didn't quite adjust for it right (from older editions). We got wiped on the road while traveling by a ridiculous encounter- I did the math after, and (as a group of level 5s) it was so far into 'deadly' it was crazy. It would've been a hard encounter for a group of level 10s of the same size. The DM said afterwards he threw that at us to drain our consumables and it was our fault we lost... but all our potions were on players that couldn't make it that week.
Speaking of rests, I've had great success with, narratively, a giant fight sequence, with a mechanical "short rest" in the middle. In one case the short rest was falling down with the crumbling floor to the boss fight below.
4e's really strict about its mechanics, but it doesn't give a fig how we interpret them narratively.
Heck, at one point Trogdor's warlock-multiclassed-to-paladin resolved his contract with his warlock patron, so he got a totally new character sheet as paladin-multiclassed-to-warlock.
@doppelgreener there are good questions that looking for some specific techniques(like this). I think this question is salvagable.
I think if "any other helpful techniques" will be formulated as "What techniques I can use for convinient use of battle maps?" or something like that. The question will be better.
I can't dedicate enough time right now for editing this question. I'll return to it later.
Reading second time: he specifies that techniques should be "for sharing increased pieces of a (battle-)map". I think that's not too broad question. Not broader than any question looking for specific techniques.
@RollingFeles i agree, though I don't myself know how I'd salvage it via that method
I voted to close until such time we can actually salvage it into a good state, so as to prevent answers -- "here's my tips" "try this" "what about crayons?" etc
when I say I don't know which close reason would apply, it's because right now any/all of them would apply.
InvisibleWeapon(Obfuscate) / Fatuus Mastery (Chimestry) / Kiss of teh Moon (Dementation) / Enter the Abyss (Obtenebration) / Ecstatic Agony (Vicissitude)
@Baskakov_Dmitriy About the same asin VtM. Biggest problem is that the torpor has clear rules (in VtM it was:you sleepfor x amount of time)with some harsh consequences if you have a high "generation"(such as forgetting dots higher than 5)
@Ahriman In VtM most of those Disciplines are cool, but very limited. For example, Flawless Parry allows you to successfully dodge/block all attacks, but you can't attack yourself.
@UristMcDorf It may be because RPG.SE users, in general, tend to favor narrative over mechanics, but your answer is suggesting the querent put mechanics first.
"Business as usual also please old guys don't leave we made the film everything you liked in the original" so yellow -> "last jedi, sith still going" so red -> "oh wait there's more also sith ded" so blue
@UristMcDorf The driving theory being: fast closure, followed by remediation and fast reopen (when possible) is the very best thing that can happen to a question that needs some work.
Hi Casanovious, welcome to RPG Stack Exchange. Please check out our tour to see how we work here. We focus on solving problems, and we don't handle arbitrary surveys here -- in fact this exactly matches a type of question to avoid asking from our help center: 'your answer is provided along with the question, and you expect more answers: “I use ___ for ___, what do you use?”' You could however ask this on a forum. — doppelgreener2 mins ago
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Welcomed them, pointed to the tour (because they do not yet have the Informed badge), explained the issue, directed them to our forum index because they can find help there.
This morning it was waking up to find my daughter lying on the living room floor, writing lyrics to her first song. IIRC it was along the lines of "I'm happy because I love my mommy so much and we both like rainbows." That's a nice world for her to be living in =)
@UristMcDorf I actually updated my answer to include touching the skin, since I'm pretty sure DW is meant to be as specific as possible when describing moves and effects.
Nah, we just let users decide which answer best addresses the question through their votes.
Multiple answers saying the same thing in different ways isn't bad. It helps future readers even if there isn't a single best answer because it gives multiple perspectives and paths to the same conclusion.
Which, in turn, further reinforces that conclusion.
It was unclear, but I think you could still follow the logical path from "roll for attack" to Hack and slash, which requires you to roll to determine the outcome... but I digress, it's been updated.
In some cases you don't need to roll anything in order to burn some poor soul. If you attack someone who just stands and do nothing, you don't trigger Hack and slash.
That's why "roll for attack as usual" makes some people(including me) cringe a bit :)
Eh. Maybe if I'd known that by then it'd be easier. Either way, I'm not touching point-buy systems ever. Too fiddly and almost impossible to balance, and balance is important to me.
Hm. That question about near-death xp that's been on yesterday gave me an idea.
The PCs are in a dream world and they finally figure out that the only way to get out is to kill eachother
And the enemies would all have powers pertaining to NOT let them do that
Like jumping in front of an attack or healing them
I had an idea about what to put at stake so it's not just a slugfest but I forgot
Think it was something related to "the longer you stay in this realm, the more of a toll the injuries and exhaustion you took here will take on your real bodies; oh and there's a monster waiting for you outside". Or something. I'll go to sleep now good night.
