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12:00 AM
I have just come across a volume of Maupassant's work in the catalogue of an antiquarian-book seller who claims the book was published in 1842, i.e. eight years before the author's birth. Time travel does exist, it seems.
 
or people lying for money
 
Or it's just a typo.
The publisher is identified as Louis Conard, and there was a Œuvres complètes in 29 volumes pubiished by Conard in the years 1907-1910 (French Wikipedia). If the volume is from that edition, the price of € 19,50 is not exaggerated.
 
 
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5:11 AM
I probably have the highest declined-flag ratio of anyone with a large number of flags here. Mostly because I keep trying to use NAA flags like VLQ ones...
Also I am probably a mite too hard on what I consider VLQ
 
@Bookworm Spam ....
 
raise a spam flag, please
(enough of them will automatically delete the post)
 
I have spam-flagged
Spam should always be flagged, which will downvote it for free. Not closed, not downvoted by itself, not interacted with really at all.
 
@Mithical done
 
@bobble on Lit I don't have any declined flags, but across the network I've got hundreds. It's part of flagging
 
5:19 AM
Basically all of my declined on are answers I wanted deleted for being very bad technically-answers, and they were too old to be VLQ so I tried an NAA
need to break myself of that habit, but I really do dislike the answers
 
@bobble how does one see what flags one has raised and which have been declined?
 
and here's how to get there from your profile
(picture is from me, because I am lazy)
 
5:38 AM
>.> not much progress on Redwall-death answer today, got distracted by RPGs and waiting for my teacher to post the homework
(which they did not... you'd think that if the homework is due on Monday, they'd post it at least by Saturday. but nooooooooo)
 
@Mithical thanks!
@bobble thanks!
 
6:18 AM
@Randal'Thor can you nuke the onebox please?
 
@Mithical For a moment I thought you meant the image that bobble oneboxed, and wondered why. Then I scrolled up a bit further and understood.
 
:)
 
@Tsundoku I took one of them. After getting advice from a Kurd IRL, it seems that the different Kurdish languages are different enough (not even mutually intelligible) to warrant different tags. But instead of using just , , etc., it makes sense that people would search tags by "Kurdish", so I put to have that keyword in the tag name too.
 
@Randal'Thor I think or would be better, but I can't articulate why exactly. My preference would be for the former.
 
6:34 AM
That would be like . Kurdish is more a language group than a single language, apparently.
 
oh and Randolph! I found your review of Pride and Prejudice from a decade or so ago:
 
Ha! :-D
I think I summarised it as "a bunch of middle-class girls trying to get married".
@verbose Maybe is better. Subset before the superset.
 
@Randal'Thor yes, but Kurdish is spoken of as a single language (mainly for political reasons) so I think the analogy doesn't quite hold?
@Randal'Thor okay
@Randal'Thor maybe you'd've enjoyed it more with zombies?
Pride and Prejudice and Zombies is a 2009 parody novel by Seth Grahame-Smith. It is a mashup combining Jane Austen's classic 1813 novel Pride and Prejudice with elements of modern zombie fiction, crediting Austen as co-author. It was first published in April 2009 by Quirk Books and in October 2009 a Deluxe Edition was released, containing full-color images and additional zombie scenes. The novel was adapted into a 2016 film starring Lily James and Sam Riley. == Background == Quirk Books editor Jason Rekulak developed the idea for Pride and Prejudice and Zombies after comparing a list of "popular...
 
@verbose I heard about that, but that's just weird.
 
I have actually read it. It was fun, but not such fun that I wanted to continue with Sense and Sensibility and Sea Monsters
 
6:42 AM
@verbose I'm tempted to analogise with the website that lumped Hindi and Bengali together as "some Asian script" :-P but that wouldn't be a good analogy either
Nowadays, Kurmanji is written with the Latin alphabet and Sorani with the Arabic alphabet, and in speech they're not mutually intelligible either. So I thought to let linguistics trump politics and make them separate tags.
@verbose Please say that last one is a joke ...
 
Sense and Sensibility and Sea Monsters (2009) is a parody novel by Ben H. Winters, with Jane Austen credited as co-author. It is a mashup story containing elements from Jane Austen's 1811 novel Sense and Sensibility and common tropes from sea monster stories. It is the thematic sequel to another 2009 novel from the same publisher called Pride and Prejudice and Zombies. It was first published by Quirk Books on September 15, 2009. == Plot summary == The story follows the plot of Sense and Sensibility, but places the novel in an alternate universe version of Regency era United Kingdom where an event...
 
Oh my God, it's not.
 
There was a whole slew of such books: Android Karenina for example. I wondered at the time why some enterprising publisher didn't reprint Stoker with the title Dracula and Vampires
 
6:58 AM
@Tsundoku Hey, me too!
 
7:21 AM
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Q: What does "But... They went home" mean in Maya Angelou's "They Went Home"?

MithicalMaya Angelou's "They Went Home" opens like this: They went home and told their wives, that never once in all their lives, had they known a girl like me, But... They went home. The end of the second verse also ends "But... They went home", and the third ends "But...", clearly hinting the same th...

 
Wait, Brian Jacques's last name is pronounced Jakes?
I always went French and pronounced it like "zhak".
 
@Randal'Thor Jacques in As You Like It is also pronounced jakes. It's an ongoing dirty joke, because in 16th C English, that was a slang term for latrine.
 
I've only read As You Like It, haven't seen a production, so that's news to me too.
Is it known that 'twas pronounced jakes since Shakespeare's own day?
(that'd make a good question for the site, I know, but I've just posted my question for today)
 
7:44 AM
@Randal'Thor I'm not sure I understand your question. That's how it was pronounced in Shakespeare's day, so yes, presumably people knew it was pronounced jakes?
Or are you asking how we know it was pronounced jakes back then? That question I don't know the answer to. I know the Shakespearean pronunciation only from footnotes, having studied the play during my time as an undergraduate. Or I'd've assumed "zhak" as well.
 
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Q: Were all the Redwall songs created by Brian Jacques, or based on some real songs?

Rand al'ThorBrian Jacques's Redwall stories contain a huge number of songs: marching songs, drinking songs, campfire songs, feast songs, all of them different and none repeated from one book to another (as far as I can remember). And they're not simple or hastily written: they're good songs, always fitting t...

 
8:03 AM
@verbose Yes, this. I imagine it could be known for sure from some rhyme or pun in the play itself, but it would be interesting to know exactly how. Would be even more interesting if your footnote was mistaken and "zhak" became "jakes" at some point during the history of AYLI productions.
 
8:18 AM
@Randal'Thor well I'm still working on that Middleton/Macbeth answer and then have several others lined up to work on but if you ask a q I'll research it at some point (unless somebody gets there before I do)
 
8:37 AM
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Q: What does the “justness of characters” mean?

user392289Some examples I found on the internet: "Their works resemble those of Moliere, in the variety and justness of characters." - A Biographical History of England by James Granger "It must, beyond any other science, teach us the turns of humour and passion, the variety of manners, the justness of c...

 
 
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1:24 PM
@Randal'Thor David Crystal talked about Original Pronunciation in Pronouncing Shakespeare. (I read the first edition in 2005 or 2006; there is a second edition now.)
David Crystal also created the website Original Pronunciation.
 
 
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2:53 PM
woof, I finally managed to finish and post that answer to Peter Shor's question about Middleton and Macbeth. It took me an amazing amount of time. I've been working on it for hours every day since he posted it.
 
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Q: Meaning of "Dexter walked with a bandy, rapid gait. They kept pace easily, not touching."

Viser HashemiThis passage is from *The children's bach" by Helen Garner Dexter walked with a bandy, rapid gait. They kept pace easily, not touching. They covered miles each night in the dark, sometimes heading east along the creek across the parklands to where it joined the Yarra River, sometimes north-west ...

 
wow, and that answer got an upvote in less than ten minutes. I don't see how anybody could have read it that fast ... it's super long.
 
Some of us have high reading speeds... I admit to not checking the resources, though.
And you don't always need to make it all the way through to know the answer's decent ;)
 
3:17 PM
@Mithical ah. I should adopt your upvoting philosophy. Randolph has upbraided me for being stingy with votes before.
and thanks!
 
I should probably be voting more on answers in any case.
 
@Mithical I always throw in a nonsensical paragraph at the end of my long answers, precisely for this reason.
 
> Answer flags
> excessively long (auto) - Community♦ 32 mins ago
@verbose ^ congrats, it was so good that the system flagged it for being too awesome :-P
(I haven't read it yet, but long usually means good, at least on this site)
 
@Randal'Thor I didn't even know that was a thing
@Alex Imma have to look up some of your answers, that sounds fun
 
Declined: "you say that like it's a bad thing?"
Not that the Community bot will see the flag response, but anyway.
 
3:23 PM
@Randal'Thor haha
 
@Randal'Thor I'm not sure I've ever seen one of those in the wild.
Obviously, y'all weren't verbose enough 2017-2019
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@verbose I wasn't really serious, but perhaps that's a good idea going forward. In any case, I only have a few answers on this site, none of which are particularly long. My long answers are on a couple of the other sites.
 
My longest answer here is the timeline one, I think. I tried to throw a bit of humor in the start and footnotes
 
I've hit the character limit once. Most of my other stuff isn't that long.
 
@Mithical At least one of Gareth's Earendil answers tripped that flag too, IIRC.
 
3:26 PM
I've hit the character limit several times on other sites, and no one ever mentioned this flag.
 
@Alex I didn't think you were serious; I was just playing along. I have long answers here; I also have one really long one on SO. The latter is my most upvoted answer by far
 
Is it a new thing?
On Literature, I think my questions are better than my answers.
Even if Rand sometimes says they are too pedantic.
 
@Alex I don't think so.
 
@Randal'Thor Didn't Gareth have to split one of his answers into two because he hit the character limit?
 
Flags aren't usually mentioned publicly, but that's more to protect the flagger's privacy than anything else.
The Community bot gets no such perks.
 
3:28 PM
My longest answer on Science Fiction & Fantasy has a grand total of two votes.
 
@Mithical heh, those were also the years I was away from this site. Coincidence?
 
@verbose Yep, that's the post I'm thinking of.
 
@Alex A full 60% are about apparent mistakes in books.
 
@Alex It's sad when that happens. Some of the most upvoted answers I've had here have just been five-minute responses that happened to hit the HNQ lottery; conversely, a couple of answers that took me weeks to research and that I'm reasonably proud of have languished with, like, two or three votes. Unfortunate. But then I guess none of us who spend time on long answers do so for the rep, we do so because the question is interesting and we learn stuff in writing the answer, yes?
@Alex wait, how'd you do that? I didn't think one could reply to one's own comments
 
@verbose Sure. In the particular case I was referring to there was also the fact that my answer was posted a year after the question.
Usually in such situations, answers don't receive the attention that they would on a new question.
 
3:36 PM
Like, I do't see the l'lle reply arrow on my own chat contributions
 
@verbose Click the down arrow next to the message.
 
@Alex that's true.
 
Then click on "permalink"
It will open in a new tab.
Copy the number at the end of the URL
Paste it into the chat preceded by a :
You are now replying to your own message
 
@Randal'Thor Can do a time travel hack too.
@verbose There's no reply arrow, but you can hack it.
 
oh, k. Thanks! I've often thought it would be nifty to be able to reply to something I had said, and never known about this. Course it's actually staggering how terrible I am about the way this site works; I always have dumb questions and someone like bobble or mith or Randolph usually kindly explains to me what's going on. I guess Alex now joins that club.
@Randal'Thor very clever
 
3:40 PM
@verbose I think one of my answers that exceeded the character limit was one that I worked on for several months. I didn't even have all the books I needed when I started the answer.
 
@Alex wow I don't think I've ever spent more than a few weeks on any given answer
 
I mean, I wasn't working on it straight. But from start to finish was definitely several months, maybe even close to a year.
 
wait I take that back, I'm still working on Randolph's Ur-Hamlet question. I posted an answer and said "but there are several associated points that I'll post about later" and it hasn't made it off my to-do list
and it's been a few months
 
@verbose I think it's more of you never had cause to learn this stuff. I, on the other hand, need to know all the rules of somewhere I frequent, so I know a bunch of stuff about SE
 
@verbose I already posted one follow-up question for which I know you have at least a partial answer already drafted.
 
3:46 PM
I have one answer for here, and one question for Puzzling, currently in the works
 
@bobble Yeah, kind of a personality thing. As far as I can tell, you and I and Mith all have the "must figure out how all these things work" mindset which not everyone does.
 
@Randal'Thor yes, I saw that question. The trouble is, answering that one the way I have to requires that I post and self-answer a question about the textual history of Hamlet :-)
 
@Randal'Thor I mean... if there's a chance I'm going to have to use a tool, I want to know exactly what I'm doing so that I don't mess it up.
 
@verbose Wow, there's going to be a whole collection of these questions.
 
That leads to, well, knowing most of the quirks of the system when you stick with the system for years. :P
 
3:48 PM
Should we create a tag?
 
@verbose and it's on my to-do list. But first I have to correct an answer which is now wrong even though I had posted the correct response before I edited it to be wrong (Randolph's "cursed macbeth" question)
@Randal'Thor the answer to the question you originally asked did say there would be four follow-ups .... I even listed them
@bobble oh, are you a moderator on Puzzling or SFF or something, then?
 
I feel safer looking up information on SE than anywhere else, since I understand how the page works. Clicking on stuff brings no surprises
 
@Bookworm HNQ
 
@verbose just a regular user on Puzzling. ~7k rep and 3rd all-time editor. I've not been there a year.
 
@bobble nice. I like your answers.
 
3:51 PM
No other accounts, though I check up on meta-meta regularly
(yes that was me bragging about Puzzling)
 
@Randal'Thor related, when I worked at a startup and it grew to the point where I didn't know everybody who worked there any more, I was seriously disconcerted. Like, some day some lady I'd never met or even heard of sent me a message on Slack (the office chat space) asking me to do some work and send her the results, and I realized, y'know, three months ago I'd've known who you were and why you needed me to do this ...
... now the place is big enough that I neither can nor need to keep track, imma just get the work done and send it your way
@bobble well, that's quite the accomplishment
 
@verbose there are also two answers to questions that are waiting in the back of my head until I come up with the proper words to explain
 
@bobble oh cool. Are you going after the tag badge?
 
I'm angling to eventually get a bronze badge; seems like the only one I have a chance in
 
Go for it! I have the weirdest sitch with the badge. I have enough rep but not enough answers to get the badge, which seems bassackwards
 
4:01 PM
My score is still lower in than or any of the other interview answer's question's tags...
 
@verbose It varies by site.
(And tag.)
 
@bobble interview answer's question's?
@Alex what does? The number of answers and/or rep needed for a particular badge?
 
The Good Omens interview question that HNQ'd in a major way a while back. +42 off a single answer
 
@bobble oh yep I remember now
 
@verbose Whether it's easier to get the reputation or the number of answers.
 
4:03 PM
@Alex ah
 
Dear gods, my teacher still hasn't posted the homework. GIVE ME MY %^$&(*@ HOMEWORK QUESTIONS.
 
On a site where the average good answer has a score of 50, you'll probably get the reputation first.
Where the average score of a good answer is 5, you'll get the number of answers first.
 
@verbose I think the Stack Exchange / Stack Overflow company has had a lot of growing pains in the last years while realising they're not a startup any more.
 
@Alex Out here I think the average good answer score is 5. So it is bassackwards that I have the rep but not the answer count for that tag. There are a lot of questions on the site, so it's not even that it's hard to find questions to answer. It's just that usually Tsundoku or Gareth answer before I get around to it, so I don't bother answering coz their answers are usually good and complete and I have nothing to add.
@Randal'Thor yes I think I got that impression too.
 
@verbose That's rare for this site, but much commoner on say SFF.
 
4:07 PM
...or Meta.SE.
 
I saw a chap's profile earlier today on SFF who was tracking a silver tag badge where he had over 1000 score but only 79 answers.
 
Technical quibble, though: It's not actually reputation that is the factor, but answer score.
 
@verbose he says right after having posted an answer to a question Tsundoku already answered
@Mithical wow
@Randal'Thor that's impressive
@Alex yep
 
in The Restaurant at the End of the Universe, Jul 7 '19 at 22:03, by Alex
Ha, I have the score for a silver before getting the bronze badge.
 
@Alex Silver suits him better. Did he ever have a bronze beard?
 
4:12 PM
@Randal'Thor Auburn.
Of course, there's always the possibility that your answers are so unpopular that you reach the answer threshold first because your tag score is negative.
in The Restaurant at the End of the Universe, May 23 '19 at 3:37, by Alex
Let's just say that my tag score for is well into the negatives, both for questions and answers.
 
Ooh, @Alex, you're getting close to 100k network rep.
 
Good point.
I need to go on a posting blitz.
I haven't been as active lately.
 
@Randal'Thor would this quote be enough for an answer to your Redwall songs question?
> Mr. Jacques, I was wondering how you come up with all the wonderful riddles in your books, do you sit down and come up with them, or do other people help you, such as your wife or friends?
I write all my own riddles and poems and songs, they are a particular favourite of mine. I love to play with words and one of my spare time hobbies (when I get any spare time) is word games and crossword puzzles.
Obviously no indication of if he was inspired or not
 
> Methinks I am a prophet new inspired
And thus expiring do foretell of him:
His rash fierce blaze of riot cannot last,
For violent fires soon burn out themselves;
 
That Q&A section is a wee bit out of date, still with information about how to get Jacques to come to your school
> Mr. Jacques has written both poetry and music, but he began his writing career in earnest as a playwright. His three stage plays Brown Bitter, Wet Nellies, and Scouse have been performed at the Everyman Theatre. "Scouse" is a slang term for someone from Liverpool, named after the cheap, nearly meatless stew that is a staple in the traditional Liverpool working man's diet.
It's darn annoying when I keep finding almost-answers and I'm not sure if they're enough to post
I'm also assuming here that redwall.org is official enough
 
4:24 PM
@bobble I'd agree
 
4:36 PM
@bobble Hmm, it could make an answer but probably not one that I'd give the checkmark by itself.
It does suggest at least he didn't just take sea shanties that he heard as a young man and change a few of the words to Redwallify them while keeping the tunes.
 
On the subject of checkmarks, did you mean to not accept my timeline answer?
 
I'd still be interested to know if he ever used things as more indirect inspiration, but I guess that does answer the main question I asked. Or at least, it says what Jacques said was the answer (author reliability issues blah blah).
@user14111 I know, thanks! You'll get a checkmark eventually, but I've got a bit of a backlog of questions to go through checking answers to accept. — Rand al'Thor ♦ 2 days ago
 
Ah. Sorry.
 
Nothing to be sorry for :-)
 
Sorry for being sorry then.
 
4:44 PM
I'm somewhat known on Puzzling for being unusually slow to accept answers. Here it's much less unusual.
 
*coughs*
 
5:41 PM
Is this too much about the painting? Or does the connection to a poem mean that asking for an analysis of a painting is on-topic?
 
@bobble The Q says "it's as much about Blake's poetry" but I don't see a question about any poetry, neither Blake's nor Milton's.
 
I thought it was asking about how the painting alluded to something else
 
For Blake at least, I think the illustrations are sometimes considered as much a part of the work of literature as the words of the poem.
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Q: Why weren't Blake's poems published in their original painted form?

No one textA little known fact about William Blake is that his poems in Songs of Innocence and Songs of Experience were published in a painted form. As the article William Blake and the Music of the Songs explains: One of the characteristics of Blake’s work that makes it so interesting—and so challengin...

 
5:57 PM
Any suggestions on the tagging of the latest question?
 
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Q: Symbolism in William Blake's The House of Death is unclear to me

red888https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/blake-the-house-of-death-n05060 While I'm asking about a painting it's as much about Blake's poetry. I haven't been able to find much analysis of this painting for the novice. "The Archangel Michael shows Adam the misery that will be inflicted on Man now he ...

 
6:31 PM
@Bookworm work & author tags?
 
6:52 PM
@Bookworm HNQ.
 
7:14 PM
@bobble The original question was about literature terminology, or a phrase used in the discussion of literature. Narrowing it down to a particular usage of the phrase by a particular critic in reference to a particular author seems ... narrow?
 
Marking 74 exams: done. Now I can make time for Lit SE answers again.
 
@Randal'Thor I did offer at the end of my comment that if they wanted to know about a literary term, they should use
I assumed that when they didn't do that, it wasn't their intention
 
7:31 PM
@bobble It's not literary terminology, as far as I know. So is the best option.
 
Okay, so I'm not sure what argument to make if the two opposing arguments are 1) It was literary terminology and 2) It wasn't literary terminology
Feel free to edit the question as you wish, I'm not emotionally invested in it
 
 
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9:35 PM
@bobble I didn't want you to think that we are ungrateful for the contributions you make here.
 
I'm fine with people editing over me/my edits; it's unavoidable that, with my large volume of edits, I won't get it wrong sometimes.
 
I don't know why Randal'Thor thought "justness of character(s)" may be a literary term. That is something that can be looked up.
 
If I disagree strongly enough with an edit I'll bring it up in the comments or chat.
 
Hmm, I might have a question
 
s/ahve/have
 
9:45 PM
At this moment, our site has exactly 4500 questions.
 
9:57 PM
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Q: How could the future "Kesh" language from the book "Always Coming Home" by Ursula K. Le Guin develop from modern languages?

CorbinAIn the book Always Coming Home, by Ursula K. Le Guin, the author created the future Kesh language and Aiha alphabet. Does anyone with an anthropological or etymological background and experience with this book have any idea how modern languages would evolve into this? Could it just be English + 5...

We have not yet finished the discussion about a potential new close reason.
So perhaps: "This question is about ordinary vocabulary or grammar, and literary context is not required to answer it."
 
Should there be a link to ELL or something similar in the close reason?
 
Not all questions we get are about texts in English, so I'd prefer to avoid that.
 
Would you want to go back and retroactively close old questions?
 
10:14 PM
Hmm, that is something that needs more discussion. For a time, we tried to get questions from ELL and ELU migrated here. So when we define new close reason, I think we should (1) define a demarcation line between on-topic and off-topic meaning questions and (2) decide what to do with older questions that may no longer be on topic.
 
don't link. many of the bad questions that we would close with that reason, the ones that you could answer by looking them up in a dictionary, they wouldn't be wanted on ELL either
if a particular question is appropriate for ELL or French SE, you can still specifically link it in a comment
 
I don't think that generalisation is correct. There is a bunch of meaning questions about Swimming in the Dark on ELL SE, for example. (That type of questions had been posted on Lit SE for some time.)
 
10:36 PM
I asked my question on Mythology SE rather than here.
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Q: Why did Odysseus not sacrifice poultry?

b_jonasIn Homer's Odyssey, Odysseus is rich: he owns cattle, swine, sheep, goats. Kirkē asks Odysseus to sacrifice cattle and sheep, and to do libation with milk, honey, wine, flour; Teiresias asks Odysseus to sacrifice cattle and sheep and swine (in the future after the end of the story). The Odyssey...

 
I spent some tagging-brain energy writing up a meta question for Puzzling; I'm aware there is a large backlog of tags here, but, well, sorry.
 
No need to apologise.
 
11:20 PM
@Tsundoku @bobble Not so much that I thought it's a standard phrase of literary terminology, more that I thought the OP might have thought that. My interpretation of the question was along the lines of "I've seen this phrase used lots of times by different people talking about literature; what does it mean?" Which is more a question about terminology used in literary discussions than about the meaning of a specific phrase in a specific passage.
@b_jonas Are you possibly mixing up the two English sites? ELU is the one that's super strict about closing anything that smells "too basic". ELL is a lot more permissive of dictionary-answerable questions AFAIK.
@b_jonas And your rep there is now the square root of 2 million.
 
11:34 PM
@Randal'Thor The three examples in the original question date from between 1650 and 1770 so they are a bit dated. I have not yet found evidence that it was standard literary terminology during that period. (I am convinced that it isn't a standard term now.)
 
11:53 PM
Looking through my close-votes, a lot of the questions are or will be deleted by the Roomba
 

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