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1:32 AM
@bobble I'm still planning to write an answer to that question.
 
ooh!
 
1:45 AM
But it's a bit unfortunate that the most recent edition of the text is available in a volume that costs €260.
 
this is unfortunate
 
(That's definitely more than 260 USD.)
When I was at school, I preferred French over chemistry. Between the chemistry teacher and me there was simply no ...
uhm ...
...
 
 
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3:13 AM
@Tsundoku We really don't need to know whether or not you Frenched your chemistry teacher 😱
Sorry, couldn't resist 😈 Also, thanks for the link to the Literature in the Digital Age course. I signed up.
 
@verbose No, there was simply no rapport.
(The joke fell flat; I was hoping someone would say there was no chemistry between the teacher and myself.)
 
@Tsundoku I got that joke, I just tried to extend it.
I suppose one could have gone G-rated and said "No chemistry with the Chem teacher, no frenching with the French teacher" but you know I love to shock your Victorian sensibilities
 
Ah, yes, my Victorian sensibilities, which explain why I read only bowdlerised Shakespeare.
Anyway, I also had a physical education teacher who also taught geography.
 
You mentioned reading the Sparks Note version in a self-answered question from 2018 tha you just edited
 
*that
 
3:27 AM
@Tsundoku Fascinating
 
@verbose He made us do a lot of geogging.
 
lol
 
is there a pun/day limit?
 
@Tsundoku is going for the Pundit badge
 
@bobble If you want to look like a nerd, you write s/tha/that/
 
3:31 AM
s/I/If/
 
Quick learner.
@verbose I didn't ask the question; I merely edited it.
 
Speaking of badges, I went to see if there really was such a thing as a Pundit badge. Apparently there isn't. However, I discovered I qualify for the badge on rep, but I don't have nearly enough answers to get it. That seems counterintuitive, doesn't it? Like, I'd've expected that the general case is the other way around
@Tsundoku oh k
 
That's to avoid people with one popular answer from getting the badge
 
oh I guess the asker must be on suspension or something, I don't see how someone with four upvotes on the question has a rep of 1
@bobble ah
 
@verbose There is a pundit badge.
 
3:37 AM
@Tsundoku oh so there is.
 
@verbose Looks like you need to answer 6 more Shakespeare questions to get the bronze tag badge. I assume that won't take very long.
 
who knows, I thought it would take me till April to break five figures but here we are and 'tisn't even March
well, Germany is a different time zone so maybe it's March there already, who knows. I have a strange relationship to time
i guess what i'm saying is, my sense of achievement timelines is discombobulated
 
@verbose We can already buy chocolate Easter Bunnies, so it's getting close.
 
Is discombobulated short for discomrobertulated? In stuffier contexts, is the phrase classicalmrobertulated preferred?
 
Or it means they have recycled the unsold chocolate Santaclauses.
LPombulated?
 
3:46 AM
I thought the plural of santa claus was either santae claus or santa clai
 
It's actually Sanktnikoläuse.
 
ah
 
That was literally a lousy joke.
 
oh k
sorry, it went over my head
(get it? lice? over my head?)
 
So you don't need to shake them off.
 
3:51 AM
The one Easter candy that I actually look forward to is white chocolate M&Ms. I would buy them year round if they were sold year round, but for some reason they show up only during Paschal
s/during/around
oh did we literally let two bounties expire unawarded? That's sad
there were three bountified questions yesterday now it's down to Bobble's bunny one
 
rabbits
not bunnies
 
Is there an actual difference? I know in theory bunnies are baby rabbits but most people I know say "bunny" pretty indiscriminately. Like, you're on a hike and you see a jackrabbit (which isn't even a rabbit!) and everyone goes, "Look! Bunny!"
 
my sister insists there is a difference
 
according to her, the order of cuteness is bunny > rabbit > hare
 
3:56 AM
Okay
But where do jackelopes fall in that hierarchy
(I think the word is properly spelled jackelopes. I don't see how you get jackalope out of jackrabbit + antelope)
 
I'm not sure she has an opinion about jackalopes
 
they're great, I love 'em
I saw a Pixar movie about a jackelope once
I think it was called "Bounding"
oh yes
 
@bobble Where do tortoises fit in? They are faster than hares.
 
tortoises are my mom's thing
 
^ At least this has literary relevance, so @Randal'Thor won't keep me out of this room tomorrow.
Anyway, I should get some sleep.
 
4:08 AM
you should
 
4:34 AM
@bobble good catch adding to my question about the spells in Macbeth, thanks!
 
welcome!
 
 
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7:51 AM
@Tsundoku That...wasn't why the joke fell flat I'm afraid. It simply wasn't worth spelling out. ;-)
 
 
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9:16 AM
@verbose No, at least one of them was awarded (mine to b4rtr's answer). I don't remember what the other one was.
 
ah good
 
9:56 AM
The topic challenge suggestions thread currently has a tie between Gargantua & Pantagruel (French, suggested by Tsundoku) and the Mahabharata & adaptations (Sanskrit, suggested by verbose).
 
I'd be inclined to go with Gargantua. We just had Tagore last quarter and I think we can hold off before having another South Asian topic so soon.
Hey @mods, should someone grab this deleted answer and turn it into a comment? I don't think the answerer is coming back to fill it out after 10 months. If they do, we could restore it, I suppose?
@NapoleonWilson ooh burn 🔥
When I was eighteen and we were studying the General Prologue, I was the only guy in class alongside six women students. The prof was a woman as well. She got to the line about "stiff burden" and said, "well, girls, you all know what happens to boys when they get excited." Then she caught sight of me and said, "Oh look! He's blushing!" And every eye in the class turned to look at me. Like, lady, you're NOT helping me deal with my sexuality...
Teachers, don't do this to your students, k?
 
10:34 AM
If @PrinceNorthLæraðr becomes a teacher, he should take the chemis-tree class. Hopefully he'll get on well with his pupils.
 
@Randal'Thor I'm sure he'll be very poplar.
@verbose Isn't that answer a few centuries off?
 
It is, yes.
 
@verbose Reminds me of a five-week summer course in Bath in the 90s. I was the only male student in the group. It was the best summer course ever.
 
Should we add to this question? I wanna say yes. He is an important figure and the anthology's really idiosyncratic organization is quite unique.
(It will need to be wm stanley because there's also wm garnett, though the latter isn't literary afaik)
@Tsundoku oh cool. What were you studying?
 
@Tsundoku You took a whole course in the bath? Was it online education with a waterproof tablet?
 
10:46 AM
@Randal'Thor Online education in 1994? You're a few decades off there.
 
@Tsundoku Ah, so it was a practical course for actors performing Aeschylus's Agamemnon. Got it.
 
@Randal'Thor They didn't read the original, though. Just a watered-down version.
 
@verbose We studied text ranging from Chaucer to Liverpool Poets: some excerpts from the Canterbury Tales, some Renaissance sonnets, The Spanish Tragedy, Hamlet, some Romantic poetry some Victorian/Georgian poetry, A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man, ...
 
Or maybe they read Swift's A Tale of a Tub? 🛁
@Tsundoku Oh okay. Interesting
 
@verbose Close. We read Tennyson's Ulysses.
Bigger tub.
 
10:49 AM
yup
 
@verbose Seen on a bus shelter in East Anglia: "How do you get an Essex man out of the bath? Add water."
 
@Randal'Thor ha
 
@Randal'Thor How do the Dutch take a bubble bath? They eat lots of peas in advance...
 
@Tsundoku I rather like Tennyson's "The Lotos Eaters". Spenserian stanzas ftw. Not quite as fond of "Ulysses." Nice enough, just doesn't linger in my memory and imagination quite as vividly
 
I can't remember "The Lotos Eaters". Ate too much Lotos.
 
10:59 AM
"There is sweet music here that gentlier upon the spirit lies / than tired eyelids upon tired eyes." Those are simply beautiful lines. I'm conflating three lines
the lines are simply "Music, that gentlier upon the spirit lies / than tired eyelids upon tired eyes"
the "there is sweet music" is a few lines earlier
oh well
I wrote a paper once comparing "The Lotos Eaters" to "The Shield of Achilles"
 
I bought the entire Norton Anthology of Poetry for that course. And Romantic Poetry and Prose, edited by Harold Bloom and Lionel Trilling.
 
No opinions on the Braithwaite tag?
 
The nice thing about being a Belgian is that you're always the only Dutch-speaking person at those courses. So you don't just speak but also think in English for the duration of the entire course. Whereas the Germans speak German among each other, thereby diluting the language-immersion effect.
 
@Tsundoku that's actually a really interesting observation.
 
When I travelled back to Belgium, I had to make a conscious switch to Dutch again.
 
11:13 AM
@verbose Indeed, very beautiful!
And there must be a pun in there about some gent being a liar.
 
@verbose I think we could do that, even though it's unusual to create tag for editors.
AFK. Pizza got delivered.
 
@Tsundoku well he wasn't just an editor. He was a poet and essayist. He just happens to have edited quite a few anthologies and is best known as an anthologist.
 
2
Q: Why is the Reeve's hair cut like a priest's?

user111In the general prologue of The Canterbury Tales, we're introduced to the character of the Reeve. The Reeve is described as having his hair cut like a priest's: His berd was shave as ny as ever he kan; His heer was by his erys ful round yshorn; His top was dokked lyk a preest bifor...

^ @verbose another question there, if you want to cement your status as the site's expert on 14th-century hairstyles :-P
 
@Randal'Thor you think it wasn't already in my queue?
 
I guessed it might've been, but wanted to relish the idea of someone being an expert in 14th-century literary hairstyles.
Should we have a tag for that?
 
11:22 AM
Who's user111? Was that Hamlet? I don't think it's breaching confidentiality to say, because very often comments to a question from a deleted user will actually @ the prior username
 
Yep.
 
Some such incident actually was needed before I linked @Tsundoku to @ChristopheStrobbe because he switched during my long absence from the site
 
Aug 3 '17 at 17:40, by Hamlet
@Randal'Thor I have to say, is the one tag on this site where I'm consistently getting really good answers.
 
Like, I was reading an answer or question by @Tsundoku and one of the comments, clearly directed at him, used @ChristopheStrobbe and I'm like "so that's who that is!"
 
@verbose Or Napoleon to Cahir.
I suspect Tsundoku would've got more votes in the mod election if he hadn't changed his username twice in the months preceding it.
Not that it made a difference in the end.
 
11:27 AM
@Randal'Thor well, I'm a bit more specialized than that. I deal only with 14th C hairstyles as they reflect character
 
@verbose Thanks; I just posted a question for you.
Might come up with a few more from that poem too - it seems to have a lot of depth and rich language.
 
11:43 AM
@Randal'Thor ask why it begins in Spenserian stanzas and then goes into irregular verse forms
well, I mean, you could, I'm not saying you have to
 
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Q: Why are the lotos-eaters "mild-eyed" and "melancholy"?

Rand al'ThorIn Tennyson's famous poem "The Lotos-eaters", a group of mariners find themselves on an island inhabited by "Lotos-eaters", and themselves decide to stay after eating lotos has had its effect on them. One passage is: And round about the keel with faces pale, Dark faces pale against that rosy fla...

 
(sigh) the Poetry Foundation site has really reliable texts, but I WISH they'd have line numbers. Quoting a long poem like "The Lotos Eaters" from that site makes it very difficult to guide the reader to the exact lines because there are no line numbers. So I just use it to quote brief lyrics and look elsewhere if I have to quote, e.g., the General Prologue
 
@verbose If you quote the lines, someone can just Ctrl+F if they want to find where it is in the poem.
@verbose First I need to find out what that means :-)
 
Preview of answer, which I'll give tomorrow unless someone beats me to it: Melancholy as in the theory of humors, i.e., melancholy, choleric, phlegmatic, and sanguine
@Randal'Thor Nine lines rhymed ababbcbcc, iambic pentameter except for the last line which is an alexandrine. Spenser's Fairie Queene is in Spenserian (duh) stanzas
Should I have prefaced those comments with "Spoiler alert!"?
 
12:24 PM
@verbose People who are used to reading scholarly literature are also used to reading spoilers. Only they are called "abstracts".
 
 
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2:37 PM
0
Q: A better parody of "traitors, Rattlesnakes and alligators"

Zhang JianThe song "Union Dixie" sings: "Away down South in the land of traitors, rattlesnakes and alligators. Right away! Come away! Right away! Come away!" I'm designing a video game and I need to make a parody of the sentence. The alternative words to "traitors, rattlesnakes and alligators" are: Initia...

 
3:09 PM
@Randal'Thor Haha
 
@PrinceNorthLæraðr How are you, prince of Sherwood?
Or would that be the wrong wood?
 
I am prince of all woods, so it wouldn't be wrong :P
 
Who'd have thought that?
 
I had to correct that before @bobble throws a s/though/thought/ at me.
 
3:17 PM
Hahaha
 
s/throws/threw
also s/a/an
 
Welll, at least I got only two instead of three. Not bad after basically skipping an entire night.
 
the tsundoku should get proper sleep
 
One day night...
 
3:20 PM
more...
 
I was preparing oral exams...
We still have a few empty tag wiki excerpts. (I don't know why I brought that up, really.)
 
They will be filled... soon :P
 
I took 2 :D
 
You can take them all :)
 
Thomas Middleton allegedly wrote The Witch after finishing The Lion and before The Wardrobe, two play manuscripts that were eaten by a couple of beavers.
 
3:34 PM
snort
 
I've written four easy ones. I shall leave the dear Prince to write the three non-standard excerpts
 
Man walks into an ancient Greek tailors with a pair of ripped trousers.
Tailor says, "Euripides?"
Man says, "Yeah. Eumenides?"
^ Is that a classic?
 
This seems too big brain for me
You might need to explain this :P
Oh I see
 
"You ripped these?" "Yeah, you mend these?". But with the names of the tragedian Euripides and the title of the play Eumenides.
I also have an epidemiology joke but it hasn't yet gone viral.
A colleague told me a Charles Manson joke and it's really killing me.
I used to tell a joke about Orpheus and Eurydice, but looking back, it was not a great idea.
Who was the coldest Ancient Greek?
A-Chill-es.
 
3:56 PM
Do Delete votes expire over time?
 
no
 
@bobble Do you want to cast delete votes on my jokes?
 
Fear not, kind Tsundoku, for I find your jokes pleasing to my ear
I VTD a main-site question soon after getting the ability and it's just sitting with 2 delete votes - was wondering if I had to worry about those going away
 
poof
 
Apparently also an ancient Greek joke:
Garrulous barber: 'How would sir like his hair cut?'
Customer:'In silence!'
 
4:00 PM
Hahaha
 
Apparently, the world's oldest surviving joke book / comedy book dates from the 4th Century AD and is in ancient Greek: twitter.com/ThatMasakaOtaku/status/1285892605805502467
I also have a joke about communism but it only works if everyone gets it.
I have a joke about dyslexia and what not to do with a ladder, but no one will under stand.
It's all about timing. I have a time travel joke.
I have an unemployment joke but it needs work.
I have a plagiarism joke, but I stole it from someone else.
I have a joke about time travel but you didn't like it.
 
missing an I
 
So you still don't like it.
 
s/"/'
 
I have a maths joke, but it's a fraction off.
I have a joke about writer’s block
I have a dermatologist joke but it’ll make your skin crawl.
I have a joke about Trump's makeup, but it's really off-colour.
I have a tooth joke, but it needs brushing up.
I have a joke about 1984, but my big brother tells it way better.
I have a Beethoven joke, but it's duh-duh-duh-dumb.
I have a Twitter joke, but it's already been told by someone else.
 
4:29 PM
@Tsundoku I think so.
@Tsundoku *a stammering Beethoven joke
 
@bobble Close votes age away over time but delete votes don't, if memory serves.
 
 
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6:00 PM
Chag Purim sameach to @Mithical and all others who celebrate! 🎉
I shall put jam biscuits on my grocery list for today.
 
\o/
 
/o\
 
 
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8:30 PM
> I wonder if
! spoiler markup works here.
> ! Nope.
 
 
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10:11 PM
... weird, I just got two upvotes on old Watership Down questions
 

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