Discussion between ar rr and Zt.

Imported from a comment discussion on https://ru.stackoverflow.com/questions/1413852/kde-manjaro-%d0%bf%d1%80%d0%be%d0%b1%d0%bb%d0%b5%d0%bc%d0%b0-%d1%81-%d0%b0%d0%b2%d1%82%d0%be%d0%b7%d0%b0%d0%bf%d1%83%d1%81%d0%ba%d0%be%d0%bc/1413886#1413886