Discussion on answer by Dawood ibn Kareem: Why is a set with one element distinct from the element itself?

Discussion on answer by Dawood ibn Ka

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1013d ago – Double Knot
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May 17, 2022 05:45
Are you asking me to prove something from no axioms?
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May 17, 2022 05:45
@DoubleKnot: If you don't have the empty set, then you can't construct the natural numbers, and if you don't have numbers, then you can't count. I would call that "useful."
May 17, 2022 05:45
It seems like a huge assumption to make - that the set of all well-defined sets is well-defined. Maybe it doesn't lead to contradictions; but I'm sure there are versions of set theory where it's not "true" (whatever "true" means).