Discussion on answer by Mozibur Ullah: What are some examples of Ur-Fascist Newspeak?

@KarlKnechtel NYT/WaPo/CNN/MSNBC/etc lean heavily center-right, pro-capital, and neoliberal, and those who have most heavily, consistently, and thoroughly leveled criticisms at them are leftists. For example Chomsky, whose referenced book and documentary Manufacturing Consent is practically entirely focused on directly attacking these institutions. I would suggest checking them out, for example this clip where Chomsky makes many points I assume you would agree with. I don't think you know what "left" means if you think NYT/WaPo are "left"

The historical sense of "left" hardly matters any more. For our purposes, in an American context "left" means "tending to support the Democratic party" and "right" means "tending to support the Republican party". But if you insist on hewing to those terms (fair play; I am similarly particular about "liberal" and "conservative") - those sources are all extremely and in-lockstep anti-Trump. (Except perhaps on the rare occasions when he did vaguely pro-war things.)

They're also clearly opposed to the culture of the "red states". The nicest thing you're allowed to say about poor white people from the Appalachians is the kind of stuff that was in Hillbilly Elegy, and even that was controversial. This is a political culture that appears totally unable to understand why Hillary Clinton's "we're gonna put a lot of coal miners out of business" line in the 2016 campaign was perceived by so many as tone-deaf, or how the "basket of deplorables" rhetoric was parallel to Mitt Romney's "47%" line.

@Kai "lean center right" lol is that your example of double speak and misinformation? MSNBC is HARD left. CNN is left. WaPo is left. What world are you in that hard left media platforms are "center right"? mediabiasfactcheck.com/msnbc allsides.com/news-source/cnn-media-bias allsides.com/news-source/washington-post-media-bias

@WernerCD unfortunately you are just demonstrating that you yourself have been conditioned by the extremely restricted range of discourse present in US media. Just because these corporate-owned outlets occupy the leftmost mainstream discourse in the US allowed in the Overton window does not make them left-wing. All of these outlets were extremely hostile to the Bernie Sanders campaign for example and heavily supported the centrist candidate Joe Biden, and Bernie is a moderate by e.g. European standards.

Prison abolition? Mutual aid? Even outright abolishing borders? These ideas are no longer outside the realm of discussion in the very outlets you mentioned.

@Obie2.0 "Failed for whom?" For the tens of millions of people who were killed by it. The Great Chinese Famine, the Soviet famine of 1932-33, Holodomor, the Kazakh famine of 1931-1933, the Cambodian Genocide, etc.

@Obie2.0 "It would be naive to imagine that mass murder is an inevitable aspect of communism." It would be naive to think otherwise given the history of Communism. Even East Germany engaged in mass murder as official policy.