Arab–Israeli conflict

Room for discussing the Arab–Israeli conflict
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Sep 30, 2024 16:29
@sfxedit For Hamas to be freedom fighters, they have to be fighting for freedom. They are not. Its in their charter. They are fighting for the destruction of Israel, Jews, and then Islamic world domination. If it were freedom they sought, there wouldn't be walls surrounding them.
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Sep 30, 2024 12:48
@User1865345 Sounds good - I'll go with the Wikipedia title 'Arab–Israeli conflict' but open to suggestions!
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Sep 30, 2024 19:56
Does it really matter what the reasons behind civilians getting killed are?
Sep 30, 2024 16:29
You say we're trying to hold the oppressed to a higher standard, yet every defender of Hamas holds Israel to standards that they exempt Hamas from.
Sep 30, 2024 12:47
room topic changed to Arab–Israeli conflict: Room for discussing the Arab–Israeli conflict [israel] [palestine]
Sep 28, 2024 11:44
Hey @CDJB, do you think the room should be renamed to reflect the borader middle-east crisis? Just a thought.
May 13, 2024 15:11
You can have 'normal' conservatives and then the 'Q' conservative
Apr 30, 2024 13:48
@User1865345 Concerned. rapidly becoming the thoughts and prayers of international politics
Apr 16, 2024 18:12
israel is the kid that bullies everyone else and that knows that you cant do shit because his dad is the headmaster
Apr 16, 2024 13:12
but since israel just loves twisting the knife into the arab population around them; that tension went from annoying to conflict
Apr 4, 2024 17:47
Canada is a weird family, and Quebec is the bastard child that the dad had with another woman before his current wife, if it paints a picture :p
Apr 4, 2024 17:40
Heres a quick runtrough: Liberal/CPC are the Dems/Reps.
NDP is more left than liberal, usually sides with them.
Bloc Québecois is a party that only has candidates in Quebec (where I am) and which mission is to represent the interests of Quebec in the national parliment.
Green was usually the 'eco-centric' bunch, but can't seem to find who they are for the last decade.
PPC is the Q embracing party. Did not exist before the trump presidency.
Apr 4, 2024 17:24
I often hear that Canadian politics is just a rerun of the US politics, 10 years later
Mar 7, 2024 03:21
@uhoh came to my feed too.
May 26, 2021 14:10
I got banned for asking the above question and my network nickname was changed.
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May 26, 2021 15:04
This was my response,

> While not explicitly stated - this also includes countries, and it was brought up that this is offensive to folks of Israeli nationality or living there.

You're taking a political stance and defending a state rather than protecting people. [Human Rights Watch has called Israel Apartheid.](hrw.org/news/2021/05/19/…) [Nelson Mandela has made analogies to Israel and the fight against apartheid.](youtube.com/watch?v=i5TiUhhm7cQ&t=207s) The [Israeli prime minister](youtu.be/xZoJBITgsi8?t
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JJJ
Jun 1, 2021 16:01
Yea I don't think we can really weigh in on the suspensions on other sites because we don't know the full extent of the other behavior that may have contributed to the extensions. I see you've got your name back on DBA and as such on chat as well. Why not focus on discussing the conflict (which this room is about) rather than the suspensions (the conflict would be mostly off-topic on those sites anyway).
May 26, 2021 16:21
StackExchange's official position seems to be that Antizionism is Antisemitism and that it's "bigoted against a country".
JJJ
May 26, 2021 16:15
@IsraelisanApartheidState I'll leave these messages up because they are interesting to the subject of the room. Other than that though, issues with suspensions on other sites aren't really something we can help you with.
May 24, 2021 21:28
@IsraelisanApartheidState In the video, he said that he had said that in the future, if the two-state solution isn't achieved and there is a struggle for equal voting rights like in south Africa, then Israel is finished.
JJJ
May 24, 2021 21:20
@IsraelisanApartheidState the pursuit of this site is to ask questions that can be answered. Your question probably can't because the definition you ask about (Israeli definition of apartheid) doesn't exist (okay I'm not 100% sure, but that's my guess). There are plenty of questions that can be answered, for example your other question on Iran's position.
May 24, 2021 21:05
@msh210 For what it's worth, I think the question is asking precisely that: "in order to be sure we're understanding each other, what definition of this term are you working with and is it different to the ICC one".
May 24, 2021 20:58
Your call. All I'm saying is that as long as you have that name and avatar, there will be a knee-jerk reaction, from both sides, to any question you ask that could possibly have any connection to the Arab-Israeli conflict, Israel, Judaism and anything remotely connected to it. This means that your chances of actually asking a question and have it be perceived as impartial are very small.
May 24, 2021 20:47
@IsraelisanApartheidState It would help if you asked it with a user name that didn't shout out what your stance on a relevant subject is.
May 24, 2021 20:46
I think (but do not know, just guessing) that if a country has its own definition, it may use that but will default to whatever "official" definition is in widespread use if not. I doubt most countries would have a legal definition of something as specific as "apartheid"; I know many countries do have a definition of "genocide" but assume many do not.
JJJ
May 24, 2021 20:28
@IsraelisanApartheidState It seems to suggest that Israel needs an apartheid definition. Given the sensitivity of the topic, that question in itself may be seen as political activism. Regardless of who is right or wrong (again, we are no the arbiters of truth), such questions aren't a good fit for the site.
JJJ
May 24, 2021 20:16
@reirab I don't see why the legitimacy of the plan is relevant. It's politically relevant because Iran is a relevant actor in the region. If we were to close questions because the underlying plans are bad then we'd become arbiters of what is right. What if a student is researching the Iranian position in the conflict, then surely this question would be relevant. The question itself is not written in a pushy way, it doesn't argue in favor of the plan in any way, that would be inappropriate.
JJJ
May 24, 2021 19:01
@reirab I don't think the user's intentions are very relevant. Iran is an interesting player in the conflict because it's clearly an enemy of Israel. While I don't agree with Iran, I think it is interesting to anyone studying the conflict how Iran voices its position. Also, I am not sure about your assertion that on-topic questions should be closed based on who asks the question. Our site is about questions and answers, not about who asks or answers them.
JJJ
May 24, 2021 18:41
Because a lot of users want to discuss the Israeli–Palestinian conflict in comments on Politics.SE, I've decided to create this chat room. Remember that the Code of Conduct still applies here. Please keep it friendly!