Discussion on answer by aquirdturtle: Do I have to include my pronouns in a course outline?

Discussion on answer by aquirdturtle:

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Jan 13, 2021 00:17
I see your point. It is good that we had a respectful discussion.
Jan 11, 2021 22:30
Science can't prove anything about gender issues because it is simply is too complicated. Social science like psychology claims to do so by doing some linear correlation analysis, which is disturbing.
Jan 11, 2021 21:04
The education should be a place where we rethink the status quo not go along with it. I did not disrespect anyone but also shouldn't be afraid to announce my positions even it is oppose the "pro-trans" movement.
Jan 11, 2021 21:03
@aquirdturtle "stating one's own pronouns is not equivalent to supporting issues around trans rights." that is true. I think the disagreement between you and I is that how much likely it is to be related to trans rights. I am afraid a time comes and you have to do it because of other agenda. Unfortunately speaking up about this issue in academia is becoming hard and they simply call me names which endangers my academic career.
Jan 11, 2021 20:09
@Serge I am friends with many transgender people and read a lot about gender issues and I've never heard mention of any criticism of noting one's pronouns. It doesn't make any sense; if you're not out, then you can just lie about your pronouns. You're likely already presenting as whatever gender is safest for you, and being constantly misgendered. In the meantime, everyone else noting their pronouns normalises and makes it safer for all trans/NB people to come out in future. I'd be interested whether you could produce any data showing how common this anti-pronouns opinion is among trans ppl?
Jan 11, 2021 20:09
@aquirdturtle Disagree. I can handle teaching students about specific material for 1 hour and some of them are trans. No problem, most of the time I am talking and when they want to ask, the will ask questions regarding the material. It is well-controlled environment that does not even give the chance to look at the differences. However, outside that environment, It is unlikely for me to make a closed friendship with trans people. That does not mean hostile, but they mind my business and I mind theirs. I will openly talk about my beliefs and address my concern in public.
Jan 11, 2021 20:09
@aquirdturtle Your coffee analogy is interesting. Clearly asking someone to drink coffee is not the same as asking them to support the Venezuelan government, but the OP doesn't want a coffee, and is asking why he should have to justify that? In other words, if you shouldn't infer why someone wants a coffee, why should you infer why they don't?
Jan 11, 2021 20:09
@ljrk I'd rather keep social issues outside since this website is not the right place to discuss (Your first sentence is what you believe). Why aren't they words to welcome people of color then? Do you think trans people are the only one who are "oppressed"? Shouldn't every southern town announce that they are welcoming black people for instance? It is a FACT that the majority of US schools don't discriminate. As a matter of fact, conservatives consider them as the center of "radical lefts"