Discussion on question by Zibbobz: Did Martin Gugino, 75, who was injured at the Buffalo, NY protest, provoke the police?

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1719d ago – PoloHoleSet
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Jun 11, 2020 15:32
This is anedcotal, but I've heard he was trying to return something that a police officer had dropped. If true, then the object he was waving would presumably have been whatever the cop dropped, to try and get his attention.
Jun 11, 2020 15:32
"A cellphone-like device" you mean a cellphone? Furthermore, any kind of "police scanner" to "block communications" that requires you to get up right next to a cop and stand there for several seconds sounds like a pretty shitty "police scanner".
Jun 11, 2020 15:32
@F1Krazy - He had a helmet that looked like a police riot-gear helmet in one hand, and I think some people assumed he was returning it. If he's an experienced protester, I'd guess it was actually his helmet. However, the claim of the "device" would be his cell phone, in his other hand. As he was talking to them he was moving his hands around, like many people (Trump included, as pointed out by his defenders in the "mocking the disabled" controversy) do when they talk. I think the claim is that he had a secret dark-ops device disguised as a cell phone. Funded by George Soros, no doubt.
Jun 11, 2020 15:32
@NoSenseEtAl - I'd agree that the claim of "provocation" would be hard to evaluate, however, we can evaluate the specific items pointed to by Trump as indications or evidence of provocation. I'm also not aware this web site having any kind of animated sentience that would allow it to have independent political or personal opinions.