Spaghetti test for Risk Exposure Model

Daniel

May 30, 2013 18:22

I can make up a relgion where if you don't eat spaghetti for every meal, you go to hell forever

but if you do, you will have eternal bliss after death

Now you have to follow that religion

It's compatible with Islam

Nothing that says you can't eat spaghetti at every meal

And if you don't, you're risking eternal hellfire

So why not do it?

TRiG

@Daniel It's just a slightly messy version of Pascal's Wager.

I've never liked Pascal's Wager.

Daniel

@TRiG That's exactly what it is

It's a bad argument

I'm trying to show it's a bad argument

TRiG

@Daniel I have been touched by his noodly appendage!

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Ali

@Daniel ya but if that spaghetti monster religion has a ruling that only Muslims eat spaghetti apart from themselves, hence the muslims would also goto heaven

Daniel

@Ali What?

Ali

May 30, 2013 18:26

so the spagetti religion is comparable with ISLAM

TRiG

@Ali As far as I'm aware, the Flying Spaghetti Monster does not have special rules about Muslims, though I'm aware that Muslims may not appreciate the promise of beer fountains.

Anyway, the sun's shining and I've been indoors all day. Off for a walk. See ye later.

Daniel

@Ali Exactly

So why don't you do it?

You should

It's a big risk not to

eternal hell

Ali

Spagetti religion is comparable with Islam because , it says that our core tenet of eating spaghetti is only shared by fellow muslims, the cruel christians throw away the spaghetti!

Daniel

@Ali I don't understand what you are saying

Spaghetti religion has nothing to do with Islam or Christianity

It just says you have to eat spaghetti

and if you don't, you go to hell

Well now you can kill two birds with one stone. You believe in Mohammad the Prophet, and you also eat spaghetti at every meal

It would be foolish not to

because of hell and all

@Ali do you eat spaghetti at every meal?

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HodofHod

@Ali That's just offensive.

;)

Ali

May 30, 2013 18:32

@Daniel correct , but the spaghetti eater now realizes that spaghetti religion has now been corrupted and they are eating noodles instead of spaghetti, only muslims have continued using spaghettti

Daniel

@Ali No no no I'm not comparing spaghetti religion to Judaism

It's a brand new religion

Ali

Its so religious to only eat spaghetti without any noodles, hence the spaghetti religion person joins muslims and eats spaghetti to its full

Daniel

I started it just now

I say you need to eat spaghetti in every meal

this is not a metaphor

I mean literally

eat spaghetti

If you don't, you go to hell

Ali

Muslims would eat spaghetti all day and the former spaghetti religion person loves this so much

Daniel

@Ali You eat spaghetti all day?

What did you eat for lunch today?

It had better be spaghetti, or you're going to hell

There's no reason not to

Ali

May 30, 2013 18:36

@Daniel Are you talking about the hypothetical muslim and the hypothetical spaghetti religion in our discourse or the real muslim and Jew?

Daniel

In fact, the risk of eating anything other than spaghetti is so high that it really makes no sense to not eat spaghetti

@Ali I'm talking about a real spaghetti religion that I just invented and a real Muslim

Ali

@Daniel Ya its the religion of Muslims to eat spaghetti in every meal, noodles is heresy as well as Kafir

christians have noodles

Daniel

@Ali You are totally missing the point

Ali

Thats getting funny

Daniel

Islam doesn't say anything about spaghetti, am I correct?

There is nothing in Quran/Hadith that says anything about spaghetti

Ali

May 30, 2013 18:38

@Daniel Is there a spaghetti eating religion , NO right?

Daniel

@Ali YES! I just created it

If you want, I can convince 10000 other people to follow it and wait 50 years

But at some point, it becomes a real accepted religion

Ali

@Daniel Cmmon you are not following the religion of sphagetti eating , the first prophet of spaghetti religion?

rofl

Daniel

@Ali Ok my point is that anybody can make up some crazy religion that says if you don't follow it you go to hell

HodofHod

@TRiG Wait, the FSM promises beer fountains?!

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Daniel

That doesn't mean that people should follow it just because the "risk exposure" is technically infinite

@HodofHod Yeah, and pirates are prophets

Ali

May 30, 2013 18:41

@Daniel YA but my point is that if some J religion says that this "crazy" religion is a monothiest religion and thier followers will goto heaven , I wont mind being in the "crazy" religion.

HodofHod

@Daniel Dude, I'm going to have start considering my options.....

@Daniel Are ninjas false prophets?

Daniel

@HodofHod haha I don't know

@Ali So why don't you take up spaghetti religion

you can still go to heaven because you still follow Mohammad

you just also eat pasta at every meal

Ali

@Daniel O Prophet of spaghetti religion , please show me the art of sphagetti eating

Daniel

@Ali It's easy. Boil some water, drop it in, let it sit for 10 minutes, drain, mix with sauce

:)

but seriously, do that or you'll go to hell

no joke

HodofHod

@TRiG But tastier, too!

Ali

May 30, 2013 18:45

@Daniel Sure O prophet of sphagetti religion , I am with the Muslims the best eaters of sphghetti. They are so good at it , you should join me and we both would have sphaghetti toghether

Daniel

@Ali Well I'm a spaghettian and a Jew, and Judaism doesn't allow me to join Islam

sorry

but we can be spaghettians together

Ali

@Daniel Remember the sphagheti religion is very strict about eating sphaghetti?, No corruption in the sphaghetti, No noodles, No pasta only sphaghettti

Daniel

@Ali sigh I can't tell if you really don't understand what I'm saying or if you're trolling

Ali

Unfortunately your followers have changed our religion of eating spaghetti into eating sphagetty with wrapped wires like "fences"

such that its no longer sphaghetti eating

But the good news is that a prophet M has arrived and is restoring the sphagetti eating rreligion and they are calledMuslims

Daniel

Spaghetti religion started today

way after Mohammad's time

There has been no corruption

It is not related to Judaism at all

It's just another religion that says you need to eat spaghetti or you'll go to hell

probability of this religion being correct = 45%

punishment for violating

hell(infinity)

If you violate this religion, you will go to hell

But thankfully, you can be a spaghettian while also being a Muslim

because spaghettians don't care what you think about God

or what other laws you have

Ali

May 30, 2013 18:55

And the good news : Spaghetti religion does not actually exist

Daniel

@Ali How many followers does it take for a religion to count as existing?

If I can get 100 people to follow it, would that be good enough for you?

Ali

@Daniel At least a mention in a reputable dictionary

Daniel

@Ali Ok, and once that happens, will you accept that it literally makes no sense not to follow it?

Ali

@Daniel let us wait and decide when it comes up in the dict

Daniel

@Ali Why? What will be different then?

Ali

May 30, 2013 18:58

@Daniel Ofcourse it does not make sense to not to follow IT

Daniel

@Ali Ok, so once it is in a dictionary, you will eat spaghetti at every meal

and be spared hell

Ali

46 mins ago, by Ali

Daniel

@Ali Why did you post that again?

Seriously, though, why does it matter if the religion is in the dictionary or not?

Ali

@Daniel I am already doing it with the muslims, eating sphagetti?

Daniel

If it's a possibility, the fact that it's not in the dictionary doesn't mean that you won't go to hell if you don't eat spaghetti

@Ali Really? You only eat spaghetti 100% of the time?

never anything else?

Ali

May 30, 2013 19:02

@Daniel if that sphagetti which you are talking about exists than a fully qualified YES

Daniel

@Ali Spaghetti exists

you can buy it in a super market

@Ali Do you really not think this whole idea is stupid?

Ali

@Daniel Thanks

Daniel

The idea that any religion that says you must follow or go to hell

you just have to follow it?

Ali

@Daniel Dont you really thing the spaghetti hypothetical idea is useless?

Daniel

@Ali No, because the spaghetti religion is exactly what you are claiming Islam is

Ali

May 30, 2013 19:04

if you push hypothetical arguments , so can I

Daniel

It's a religion that if I don't follow it, no matter how ridiculous it is, I'll go to hell

Ali

@Daniel nO sphagetti is monthiesm of Islam

Daniel

@Ali I made up spaghetti religion

I can say what it is

If I don't eat spaghetti at every meal I'll go to hell

If I don't accept Prophet Mohammad as authoritative, I'll go to hell

Same thing

That doesn't mean that prophet Mohammad is just as ridiculous as spaghetti religion, it just means that your argument of risk exposure is worthless

Ali

Which is Islam

@Daniel I would rather say your hypothetical argument of spaghetti is not even an argument as its hypothetical NOT REAL

Daniel

@Ali How do you know?

In any case, it's just an example

MoriDoweedhYaAgob

May 30, 2013 19:09

Sholom 3leicham

Ali

examples are good but hypothetical unrealistic arguments are not even examples

Daniel

@Ali en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster

Ali

I know that

Daniel

It's real

MoriDoweedhYaAgob

@daniel stop talking to him until he learns basics of judaism

@ali I told you already a million times. You don't know anything. You only know topics if judaism and make up everything else

Stop your nonsense we don't care bout what you have to say until you are speaking proper knowledge

Daniel

May 30, 2013 19:11

@MoriDoweedhYaAgob We're not talking about Judaism anymore

Ali

@Daniel Ya its real but what you made up is not real

Daniel

@Ali Ok, but I could start it

and then it would be real

MoriDoweedhYaAgob

Spaghetti noodles kugel Idc

Daniel

@MoriDoweedhYaAgob We aren't discussing anything that requires knowledge of Judaism anymore. Just some basic logic

Ali

ok so we have had a re summarization of our viewa

views

@Daniel correct

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