Conversation started Feb 19, 2018 at 7:30.
Feb 19, 2018 07:30
I'm thinking of asking a curious question: what happens if you are forced to overstay in a country because you were denied boarding your flight out of the country or your flight was cancelled, as a general question for many countries. Would such a question be considered too broad? If so, should I narrow it to just one country, or should I narrow it to specific cases like boarding denials due to overbooking, other reason, delays, cancellations, or your flight is diverted back to the same country?
 
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Feb 19, 2018 09:03
@gparyani It seems pretty broad to me. As a practical matter, most countries will figure out some way to deal with you if it's not your fault, but the details will vary from country to country
@ZachLipton So if I were to limit it to, say, just the USA, but keep it general for all flight situations (delays, cancellations, diversions, boarding denials, etc.) it wouldn't be too broad?
I wouldn't think so. Can't speak for everyone of course
@ZachLipton Now that I think about it, I think I'd ask two questions: one for boarding denials, another for the rest, because the former affects just that one person while the latter affects everyone on that flight.
Of course, both would be limited to just one country.
Weirdly, for the US, CBP used to have a page that covered such situations (visajourney.com/forums/topic/…) but they deleted it
@ZachLipton I found this post but it only covers VWP; I'm curious in general (i.e. for those traveling on visas instead)
Feb 19, 2018 09:12
Yeah, "don't put yourself in that situation" is really the best plan
Feb 19, 2018 09:39
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Q: What happens if I'm forced to overstay in the U.S. because my flight is delayed or cancelled?

gparyaniWhat generally happens if I am forced to overstay my legal stay in the USA because my flight gets delayed, cancelled, or diverted? Will I be banned from entering the USA? Will I still be able to use the Visa Waiver Program to enter? Some examples: I entered the U.S. on a visitor visa. I was su...

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Why is it being downvoted?
Feb 19, 2018 10:02
Seems fine to me. No clue why someone would drive-by downvote it
 
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Feb 20, 2018 01:43
@gparyani I didn't downvote but generally we frown upon questions about situations which could've been easily prevented with a bit of foresight - in this case booking a ticket that leaves a few days before the visa expires is the prudent solution
same goes for questions like "Help, tickets are cheaper from Jan 1st but my visa is valid until December 25th. Can I just overstay?"
 
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Feb 20, 2018 06:51
@JonathanReez Thanks; actually that downvote was later retracted. But why did someone vote to close it as unclear what you're asking?
 
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Feb 20, 2018 18:35
@gparyani that I do not know
 
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Feb 20, 2018 22:01
@JonathanReez Why would we or should frown upon such questions? That's the view immigration officials are likely to take and I often tell people that in answers but that does not make the question illegitimate.
Feb 20, 2018 22:22
@Relaxed to me it shows a lack of planning on OPs side. I would also frown on questions like "help, I've left for the airport 1 hour before departure and was late because I was stuck in a traffic jam. Did the airline rightfully bump me off the flight?!"
But I wouldn't frown on a question like "The cheapest ticket combination requires me to transfer from the train station to the airport in 1 hour. Is it feasible considering the likelihood of traffic jams in city X?"
Feb 20, 2018 23:19
@JonathanReez So what? Up and down voting is not there to express judgment about the way people conduct their lives... I am sure we did get questions about traffic jams incidentally.
Feb 20, 2018 23:46
@Relaxed Personally I rarely downvote anything, but I can see why others would when viewing the same question.
anyone can upvote or downvote anything for any reason - there's no rules about it on Stackexchange
there's some general guidelines on how to use the votes and practices such as mass downvoting or targeting a specific user are banned
but if you geniunely dislike the question you may downvote it
Feb 21, 2018 00:08
to me, if someone is going to the trouble of asking a question about it in advance, that shows evidence of planning, not a lack of planning
 
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Feb 21, 2018 02:56
@ZachLipton correct. Pre-planning = upvote. Thinking in hindsight = no upvote
 
Conversation ended Feb 21, 2018 at 2:56.