Conversation started Dec 4, 2018 at 8:02.
Dec 4, 2018 08:02
@JohnRennie A block of mass m is resting on a wedge of angle $\theta$. With what acceleration should the wedge move so that the mass $m$ falls freely?
If the mass falls freely then it obeys the equation $\Delta y = \tfrac{1}{2}gt^2$. That means the wedge must accelerate sideways to make the height of the wedge decrease at the same rate.
@JohnRennie okay, then?
Let's draw a diagram ...
You want the horizontal acceleration of the wedge, $a_x$, to be such that $a_y = g$. Yes?
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@JohnRennie $a_x$ will be same for wedge and block?
I would guess we're assuming there is no friction between the block and the wedge. The idea is that the wedge moves sideways at such an acceleration that the block falls straight down i.e. moves downwards in a straight line.
Dec 4, 2018 08:15
@JohnRennie yes
Like that ...
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@JohnRennie ....In this question:i.sstatic.net/4oMa2.jpg In the (a) why is the potential difference across C2 Va-Vb?....It should be Vb-Va right?....could you explain?
@ayc let me finish Abcd's question ...
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@JohnRennie ...its alright..I can wait..just ping me once you are done!
@Abcd and the question says the block falls freely so it accelerates downwards at an acceleration of $g$.
In effect it's like you are pulling out the wedge from under the block at a rate that matches the free fall of the block.
So if you consider the point on the wedge directly under the block then that point must accelerate downwards at $g$ so it doesn't impede the block's fall.
Dec 4, 2018 08:21
@JohnRennie ya makes sense.
@JohnRennie but the point under the block cant accelerate downwards anyway.
Hi guys, anyone can help me with Chernoff bound?
@Abcd what matters is the height of the wedge above the table immediately under the block. When I say point on the wedge I mean this height.
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@JohnRennie OK, then?
@Abcd thanks :)
@Abcd we need $d^2h/dt^2 = g$ for the block to fall freely. Yes?
Dec 4, 2018 08:27
one second. trying.
$\tan \theta = \dfrac h x$
$\dfrac{dx}{dt} = a$
$x = h \tan \theta$
$\tan \theta \dfrac{dh}{dt} = a$
$\tan \theta d^2 h/ dt^2 = da/dt$
$\tan \theta g = \dfrac{da}{dt}$
$da = g\tan \theta dt$
@JohnRennie ^^ ?
Start with the obvious relationship $h = x\tan\theta$. OK so far?
yes
Differentiate twice wrt time. The angle is constant so we get:
$$ \frac{d^2h}{dt^2} = \frac{d^2x}{dt^2} \tan\theta $$
hmm
Is that an English hmm or an Indian hmm? :-)
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Dec 4, 2018 08:32
indian
OK, and we 've already decided that we want $d^2h/dt^2 = g$ so we get:
$$ \frac{d^2x}{dt^2} = \frac{g}{\tan\theta} $$
Oh my mistake above is I put $dx/dt = a$
Yes @JohnRennie $a = g\cot\theta$
 
Conversation ended Dec 4, 2018 at 8:34.