What to do with P"T questions II

Conversation started Mar 12, 2012 at 2:00.

Isaac Moses

Mar 12, 2012 02:00

@HodofHod, so, what shall we do about these P"T questions?

HodofHod

@IsaacMoses oh, right! I think we should do a little testing to see which of the two options (off-topic comments or dispute) is a more secure lock. It will require a regular user.

If necessary we can remove the post-notices on them, so they will simply say "locked"

Q: What's an "achashvei"?

From my preschooler: What's an Achashvei? I know that a rosh is a head. I want to know what kind of head Achashveirosh was. Can you help me come up with a satisfying answer? I'd prefer not to have to rely on some sort of academic cop-out like saying the word is actually Ugaratic (whate...

purim-torah-in-jest

that way, it doesn't say "content disputes" or wtvr

Isaac Moses

@HodofHod OK, so that issue doesn't apply.

@HodofHod I don't think it requires a regular user. I don't have an "add comment" link on the Achashvei question, but I do have on its answers.

... Though I have edit links all around, which may not be the case for regular users.

HodofHod

@IsaacMoses It does make it more tedious. This will become a serious problem in coming years, I fear.

@IsaacMoses But shouldn't edits be locked, too?

Isaac Moses

@HodofHod Yeah, that's an issue.

We could give up on trying to solve this with a technical solution and just use assertion.

HodofHod

@IsaacMoses So we can have a regular user test it. Because we're mods it will always say 'edit'.

@IsaacMoses You mean commenting and letting people know?

...after they edit or respond?

Isaac Moses

Mar 12, 2012 02:10

e.g. adding to the disclaimer "Please don't edit or answer this question except during Purim season."

We can also close, which prevents further answers

HodofHod

@IsaacMoses and add that to the stock disclaimer for next year. Okay.

@IsaacMoses Ok. works for me.

Isaac Moses

... or close and low-level-lock, which prevents edits to the question and new answers, just doesn't prevent edits to answers

... or just close and not worry about edits

HodofHod

@IsaacMoses hmm. Why don't we just go with closing for now and see how that works out?

@IsaacMoses exactly.

Isaac Moses

@HodofHod so unlock, close as Too Localized, and leave it at that?

HodofHod

@IsaacMoses And add the extra piece to the disclaimer

Isaac Moses

Mar 12, 2012 02:16

@HodofHod I think we can even skip that.

HodofHod

@IsaacMoses ok, then. Works for me.

Isaac Moses

I don't think there's too much of a threat of rampant editing of P"T posts. As long as we disallow new content, it'll keep it from being an open-ending thing.

Double AA

[Just joining back in...] Why can't we just leave it as locked for historical reasons? It doesn't actually lose the tag. It just doesn't show up in the tag list/count. Proof is I still can click the Purim Torah questions I asked from my user page and I still see the tag there.

It makes it very inaccessible. But that's ok.

Isaac Moses

@DoubleAA But we can't then find it by clicking on the tag, and we're afraid the tag will disappear

... though I guess it can't disappear if it's on questions that are only tagged it.

Double AA

I say test it.

Isaac Moses

Mar 12, 2012 02:19

@DoubleAA It'd be kind of confusing to have a policy pointing to this tag, which is apparently empty

HodofHod

@IsaacMoses Also, makes it a pain to go back and unlock them next year

Double AA

Won't it delete after 24 hours if it is going to do so at all?

Isaac Moses

@HodofHod I actually don't really intend to unlock any, personally, unless there's a particularly good reason for specific ones.

@HodofHod ... and we can find them with judaism.stackexchange.com/…

HodofHod

@IsaacMoses ahhh, I wondered about that, actually. I thought that's what the plan was

@IsaacMoses cheater!

Isaac Moses

@HodofHod "At the discretion of the moderators, some may be unlocked during future years' Purim Torah seasons." Note "discretion," "some," and "may."

HodofHod

Mar 12, 2012 02:23

@IsaacMoses ahh, I remembered reading that, but forgot all the caveats

Double AA

@IsaacMoses In that case, just lock it. I'm betting the tag won't actually disappear, but even if it did we could still find them all. And if need be we will adjust the meta post to point to that search result page.

Isaac Moses

@HodofHod Actually, for that, closure is more convenient, since you can scan the list of questions and easily pick out the closed ones.

HodofHod

@IsaacMoses I have to say, I prefer closing. Makes it simpler.

Isaac Moses

@HodofHod @DoubleAA Gah! I see both points of view. Had I commited geneivat da'at, I could provide my two minds as keifel payment.

HodofHod

@IsaacMoses :-D

Isaac Moses

Mar 12, 2012 02:27

(... never got around to developing a well-written answer along those lines to that question)

HodofHod

@DoubleAA @IsaacMoses can a non-mod undelete their own post?

Isaac Moses

@HodofHod Not sure. Probably not if they weren't the one who deleted it.

Double AA

@HodofHod I think so. But only if they deleted it themselves.

HodofHod

@DoubleAA You don't by any chance have a desire to test it out, do you? I'm trying something.

Double AA

A: How does one person have two undelete votes?

Uhm... oops. Nice catch. When a user wants to undelete their own post, but this post was deleted by the community (as was the case here), their undelete vote isn't binding anymore (unlike if they had deleted it themselves). In other words, three undelete votes are necessary to undelete the post....