Conversation started Sep 22, 2014 at 17:24.
Sep 22, 2014 17:24
Should we put a historical lock on this?
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Q: SE Challenge: Halachot in which rulings range from permissible to Torah violation?

ChaimKutInspired by my previous question regarding heating up soup on Shabbat, I present a challenge to the Judaism StackExchange community -- List halachot which have halachic decisions ranging from outright Torah violations (i.e. not simply a rabbinic violation) all the way to 100% sanctioned and perm...

@DoubleAA should it be closed? I realize that locking would accomplish that, but if it should be locked then, kal v'chomer, it should be closed, yes? So maybe we could get some votes for that?
@MonicaCellio We have 6 who think it's a riddle.
why is this not a riddle — simchastorah Nov 25 '11 at 18:11
and it has 16 answers which are equally right (ok some are wrong)
Sounds like Not Constructive in the old system. Maybe Too Broad in the new one.
If it asked "are there such things?" that would be answerable.
Sep 22, 2014 17:46
@DoubleAA I think "too broad", or off-topic with a custom comment, would be appropriate.
@DoubleAA despite that comment the question has never received a single close vote. But if you and I both think it should be closed, that may be good enough.
 
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Sep 22, 2014 19:45
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Q: Echad - mi yodeya?

Isaac MosesWho knows one? Please cite/link your sources, if possible. In about a day, I will: Upvote all interesting answers. Accept the best answer. Go on to the next number.

@MonicaCellio @DoubleAA, if that question is to be closed, then the above series should be closed as well. (I think both should be left open).
 
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Sep 22, 2014 21:01
@DoubleAA Added.
@Yishai That series is grandfathered. Or patriarched. :-)
@msh210 I thought you were in favor of it on th merits. If it's approved based on patrimony, I'm in favor of closure.
@IsaacMoses Hang on -- I'm in the middle of penning a chat reply here.
@MonicaCellio @DoubleAA @Yishai I closed judaism.stackexchange.com/q/5991 unilaterally only because it has answers pretty much without end (unfortunately). (And I might not have, even then, had it not been my own Q.) The mi-yodeya-series Qs and judaism.stackexchange.com/q/11625 OTOH are much more bounded in scope than 5991, which IMO weighs strongly in their favor.
@IsaacMoses "Patriarched" was just a pun I couldn't resist the opportunity to make. The real reason I meant was that it's grandfathered, not because of who runs the series.
@msh210 "grandfathered" is what historical locks are for, no?
@msh210 I still think sourceless gimatriyaos are terrible answers, though.
@IsaacMoses But in this case it's a continuing series. :-)
@msh210 Or would be if, ahem, someone would continue it.
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We are all eagerly awaiting your disseminating the question about 324. That is, the chai-squared distribution.msh210 ♦ May 22 at 18:50
@msh210 "grandfathered mikan ulehaba"?
Sep 22, 2014 21:09
@IsaacMoses That's usually what grandfathered means. Rent-controlled apartments in NYC remained rent controlled even on lease renewal.
@IsaacMoses "a class of which engineers are probably a subset" :-D
@msh210 Do you think I should qualify that with something that indicates that I'm kidding? Did you see my other indulgence of levity in that sentence?
@IsaacMoses 1) No. 2) Not until you mentioned it here. (I'm a bit slow today, apparently. Heck, it's even italicized.)
@msh210 "whooosh" :)
@IsaacMoses :-)
@IsaacMoses Great question, by the way.
@msh210 Thanks! One I've also posed to my rabbi, as it potentially affects me practically.
Sep 22, 2014 21:17
@IsaacMoses But I don't really think they should be closed: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/17801585#17801585
Tzt; gtg.
Sep 22, 2014 21:38
@msh210 @Yishai @DoubleAA ok, I can see that. And I'm certainly not calling for unilateral closure if there's any disagreement (as there now is). I don't think we should lock an open question, so unless the community wants that to be closed, I don't see a change here. I do think the mi-yodeya-series questions are valuable and sufficiently limited in scope. The halachot question seems more open-ended and list-y.
 
Conversation ended Sep 22, 2014 at 21:38.