Conversation started May 8, 2012 at 2:00.
May 8, 2012 02:00
Purpose:

Plan a party to celebrate our launch out of beta and possibly also act as a tool for promoting the site to new users.
First agendum: What elements should the party include?
Some ideas here:
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Q: Shall we have a launch party?

Isaac MosesTo promote our impending launch, I think it would be cool to have a launch party. Some elements that it could include: Live text chat Live audio A call-in show format, using BlogTalkRadio. People identifying favorite site content to date. A ribbon-cutting in which we count down to a SE staff pe...

So, the following, I think, are pretty much a given: chat in here, and live audio with call in at BlogTalkRadio
... Don't all chime in at once ...
WAF
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@IsaacMoses I like divrei Torah.
@WAF I should hope so, else you're on the wrong SE site.
@IsaacMoses - Is this just for the community, or will it be advertised?
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Has anyone ever been to a SE launch party before?
@Dave Excellent question!
@WAF I don't know if such a thing has happened before
May 8, 2012 02:04
@IsaacMoses - Also: Are you volunteering to be the radio host? ;)
WAF
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@IsaacMoses Has anyone ever been to any launch party before? Perhaps that person could speak from experience? I can't really picture it.
. . . which is why I proffered my very general affinity for divrei Torah.
@Dave So, I think the primary purpose should be for us to celebrate together, but
@IsaacMoses :D
I think that we should consider the potential for using this as a promotional tool as well
@msh210 @Dave Thank you!
May 8, 2012 02:06
... which possibly depends on what sort of draw there is, other that us patting each other on the back
@Dave I already set up and tested a BTR account
@WAF Here's the minimum that I'm picturing (and please, anyone, jump in with other elements you think would be cool):
I agree with @WAF that divrei Torah would be most appropriate. How about a few of us agreeing to prepare a short-and-to-the-point message for broadcast?
Radio call-in show punctuated with a few featured items (lechaim, D"T, etc.) and also people calling in to say hi
The hi-saying could include identifying your favorite Q&A.
@Dave Emphasis on "short"
@Dave Volunteers?
(Feel free to volunteer at any point in the conversation)
@IsaacMoses Is the idea that each person who prepares a d"t is going to say it? There are people who can write well but aren't good public speakers
WAF
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Maybe there should be games.
@Alex The idea is in development before your eyes. The floor is open to volunteer writers, speakers, and writer/speakers.
@WAF Such as?
The big idea I had before, that could possibly serve as a draw to outsiders, was a panel discussion featuring, e.g. prominent Rabbi/Bloggers
May 8, 2012 02:11
I've never been to a distributed launch party. What do they tend to have?
@IsaacMoses Tic-Tac-Toe!
@HodofHod Jewpardy! (Jewish trivia questions)
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@IsaacMoses I like that, especially if we can pick people who are engaging and somewhat diverse (so we get good back-and-forth).
The issue with bringing in outside speakers is that it requires a great deal of coordination, which requires time
May 8, 2012 02:13
@DoubleAA Just discovered that recently myself. Cool stuff. Unfortunately, we're not on it. Also, it's not really party-oriented.
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@DoubleAA Yes!
@IsaacMoses Do we have suitable candidates from within our community? (I was thinking we should highlight some of our contributors, not bring in outsiders to talk to/about us.)
@IsaacMoses It's the only StackExchange game I can think of.
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@IsaacMoses We should get on there.
May 8, 2012 02:14
@Alex The only time I ever remember seeing Jeopardy, I was doing mivtza tfilin in an old-age home (where else to see Jeopardy?). The question was actually something to do with how Hebrew writes tes-vov to avoid what problem?
So it's not always Jewish questions? ;)
@MonicaCellio My first thoughts were Joel Spolsky and a Rabbi-blogger who's helped promote m.y and who has participated here, but neither was expecting to be available.
@IsaacMoses We will be!
@IsaacMoses There's also Josh of parshablog - I think he's got name recognition
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@IsaacMoses Joel would be excellent since he's SE-famous and pitched us from the beginning (or at leasat during commitment).
@MonicaCellio I mean, we could have a panel discussion featuring a bunch of us, but (unless any of us are a little famous) it won't bring in people from outside
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May 8, 2012 02:16
How about a "# - mi yodeyathon"?
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@IsaacMoses Flip the switch, and... Let the games begin!!
@MonicaCellio My thoughts exactly
@Alex Good point
@WAF Describe
@IsaacMoses I see your point. If we could get Joel (for the draw), maybe somebody else famous, and a few of us, that'd be a nice mix.
@MonicaCellio Right. The problem is that there's a great deal of friction associated with those first two elements
May 8, 2012 02:17
@IsaacMoses We also have Ben of Ben's Tallit-Shop
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@IsaacMoses You know - one person spits out a number and the fastest one to give a valid submission for that number gets a point and gives the next number.
@WAF Would everyone have to be on their honor to not consult ?
@IsaacMoses friction? Scheduling, or something else? (When are we doing this?)
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@IsaacMoses Nope, it's just a speed drain.
@WAF 54724256 - GO!!
May 8, 2012 02:19
@MonicaCellio Coordination and communicating with enough candidates until someone bites.
@MonicaCellio (We'll determine when after we determine what)
@IsaacMoses Gotcha.
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@HodofHod Seconds in a birkas hachama cycle
@WAF Only if you round down
@WAF Touche!
That's like "Balderdash!"
Sense of the assembled: Should we pursue the panel discussion idea? (or something similar)
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May 8, 2012 02:21
@HodofHod Not familiar.
@all Just wanted to poke in and say Mazel Tov!
@IsaacMoses thumbs up
@IsaacMoses If it can be done, certainly
@Jeremy thanks and welcome!
About when are we planning the launch party for, anyway?
May 8, 2012 02:23
All the silent are acceding?
@MonicaCellio Thanks
@Alex Depends on how much planning and pre-promotion is necessary
WAF
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@IsaacMoses In my case, yes.
@IsaacMoses I am acceding
chai people in the chatroom - is that a record?
May 8, 2012 02:24
quietly
@WAF You've taken yourself out of that category
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@MonicaCellio Got it. I see the similarity.
Seems potentially fun online.
@IsaacMoses Doh!
OK, so I think what we need to do if we want to do that is set a due date for lining up candidates and assign people to work on that
(... same goes for game concept development)
Any volunteers for working on lining up panelists?
Another possible game we could use is Tribonds - without the game board, of course, just "what do these three things have in common."
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@IsaacMoses can somebody say a little more about technical support? Is the panel phone-based, webcam-based, something else?
May 8, 2012 02:26
Logistically, would this entail several candidates making audio/video presentations? Text? What would be the degree of interactivity?
WAF
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@Alex I'm in favor.
@MonicaCellio Phone, utilizing BlogTalkRadio
@Fred The panel idea? It would be a few people on the phone together, broadcast live on the net
divrei torah can be taken from questions and answers on j.so
that would showcase the site
plus most of the work is already done
@Alex Maybe there's a Jewish game of such sort that someone could procure and challenge callers with on the show
@IsaacMoses Google plus is currently releasing Hangouts on Air..... it might not have rolled out for everyone yet.
May 8, 2012 02:28
We could use some of our "best" questions (whatever that means) as jumping-off points.
@IsaacMoses Ah, so a radio show with text input from listeners?
@Alex wasn't familiar with this game, but sounds like fun.
("radio" loosely speaking)
@Fred And call-ins
@MonicaCellio I actually have a list of Jewish "groups of three" that I drew up ages ago, so I can send it along to Isaac or whoever volunteers to coordinate the games
May 8, 2012 02:29
@IsaacMoses and maybe a monitored chat room
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@Alex Volunteer!
@HodofHod Describe?
@WAF Was there an implied [I ...] there?
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@IsaacMoses Sorry, I was identifying myself.
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@IsaacMoses You couldn't see my raised hand.
May 8, 2012 02:30
@WAF shkoyach
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@IsaacMoses A Hangout is a multi-user video chat. A Hangout "On Air" is said video chat, but with the added feature that you can watch it without joining/having a camera, and it's automatically saved and uploaded to youtube (privately) so there's a record of it.
we were looking for the on air feature in today's hangout and couldn't find it.
not on for everyone (if anyone) yet
@HodofHod I'd just as soon leave video out of it. It's easier to fill dead air than it is to maintain a presentable face
@RebeccaChernoff Rolling out slowly, apparently. I think only one account would have to have it, though
@IsaacMoses or a presentable background, for that matter...
May 8, 2012 02:33
OK, so it sounds like we have a game and a game-master. Any volunteers to work on panelists?
@IsaacMoses Fair enough. Only the speakers would actually be on-camera, though
Any volunteers to write or say divrei Torah?
@IsaacMoses I'll take you up on that
Do any of us have a tie to Joel, or will it be a random-person approach no matter who does it?
... or with games, divrei Torah, and callers, would a panel be over extending ourselves?
@MonicaCellio Joel has already declined
May 8, 2012 02:35
@IsaacMoses oh oops, sorry.
@IsaacMoses Oh, he did? That's a shame.
@Alex Chazak Uvaruch. Write, say, or both?
@IsaacMoses Both.
@Dave?
@IsaacMoses depends on how long the party would run. Games could be short bits interspersed among longer things. Ditto panel questions.
People calling in to say mazel tov would get old quickly. People calling in with questions for the panel would be more engaging, I would think.
May 8, 2012 02:38
@MonicaCellio True that
If you can rope in someone with broadcasting experience to moderate, that might help keep the structure, flow, and timing stable.
@MonicaCellio I was thinking Mazal Tov, what's your favorite question, and/or play the game.
:4512903 I was thinking that a moderator (not JE-mod, but panel-mod) could prepare some starter questions, perhaps drawn from some of our best content, and then callers could ask more.
@IsaacMoses oh, that works!
My original idea was a standard panel discussion, where a panel-moderator introduces the topic and the panelists, and then they go at it for a while.
@Fred Anyone here is or knows someone with broadcasting experience?
@IsaacMoses Not the speaking part, but maybe something in text.
May 8, 2012 02:40
@IsaacMoses that was my thought too, with opportunities for audience participation in the form of questions/topics.
@MonicaCellio Yes, the audience part makes it much better
@MonicaCellio So would we decide on the topic in advance, or would we ask the panelists to work that out among themselves?
@IsaacMoses Not me, sorry.
@Alex Subject to negotiation, but I think that something related to "Torah on the internet" would be appropriate
Topic-wise: anyone have an idea of the ratio of meta to regular topics?
May 8, 2012 02:41
@Dave Thanks.
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@Alex The panel mod and the panelists should work together to fiture out some good topic(s). Surprises make for weaker panels unless the panelists are used to that kind of public speaking.
@IsaacMoses torah on the internet and torah about being on the internet, among things?
@MonicaCellio Right. Definitely, the topic would be determined ahead of time - also for advertising purposes
@IsaacMoses - Have you contacted Gil Student and Mordechai Torczyner? They were helpful in promoting m.y 1.0, and may be willing to participate in the launch.
@MonicaCellio Sure.
@Dave The former - not yet. The latter - yes. He expressed interest but is too busy right now.
The latter suggested I contact the former.
@IsaacMoses - Either great minds think alike, or the candidate field is really thin...
May 8, 2012 02:45
@Dave There's also the problem that those who are good at this usually do it for a living, whereas here we'd be asking them to do it gratis
@Dave "Prominent people who've heard of m.y/J.SE" - not a long list, as far as I'm aware
@Alex Not absolutely necessarilly. We could ask SE to kick in funds. We still have unspent promotion budget
Maybe some lesser-known bloggers/personalities who could use some promotion themselves? It would be a win-win.
@Dave Suggestions welcome
Not contacted yet: R' Student, R' Waxman
@IsaacMoses - Harry Maryles?
@Dave Anyone here have contact with him?
May 8, 2012 02:48
R' YG Bechhofer?
@Dave Same question
Any non-rabbi ideas?
I think that people who have seen this site would really be best
@IsaacMoses - Cory Booker? :)
@IsaacMoses it would be good to have some non-rabbis and I am drawing blanks right now. (Also, would be nice to have a woman.)
(He would probably do it!)
@Dave Is he net-savvy enough? (I know he's Jewish enough. )
May 8, 2012 02:51
@IsaacMoses - How much savvy is required for this?
@MonicaCellio There's at least one good woman speaker I know from working with her at Chabad.org (though mostly she talks about relationship topics). I could sound her out, though then again it also gets into that matter of fees
@Alex - Oprah :)
@Dave I think that interest in this site and in topics related to it would be important
@Alex Does she work on Chabad.org -- does she think about issues related to dealing out Torah over the net?
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@IsaacMoses I know she delivers lectures both in person and via video on that site, but I don't know whether specifically she deals with 'Net issues. I can ask, though.
OK, so let's talk about party date and prep due dates
May 8, 2012 02:55
@Alex might I ask whom?
Somebody from Mechon Hadar/Yeshivat Hadar? And/or Hebrew College? (I'm thinking institutions that are intentionally cross-cutting but with enough traditional foundation to not bother people.)
@IsaacMoses - If we are going to limit it to people who are familiar with the site, and also have what to say about Torah/net, well... good luck.
@HodofHod Sara Esther Crispe
@IsaacMoses - maybe Nachum Segal would agree to a couple of minutes as a public service?
@Dave Interesting. Anyone know him?
May 8, 2012 02:57
@Dave Country Yossi!
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Anyway, I don't have any good contacts but will keep my mind open and am enthusiastically volunteering to be involved in games.
To get this going, with panelists, we need to: 1) line up panelists and a topic. 2) Prepare ads 3) Get the ads out there 4) allow time to pass between the ads and the party 5) Have the party
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WAF
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But it's getting late here.
@jake - that would definitely liven things up here! His halachah quizes on the radio were hilarious.
(that's the critical path, as I see it)
How long should we allot for (1)?
May 8, 2012 02:59
Good evening ladies and gentlemen
@Dave I always remember that "five boroughs of new york" question from his CD. :D
@AdamMosheh Welcome!
Until Friday?
@jake - you win a free trip to Jamaica... Queens.
Then maybe a week for (2) + (3)?
@IsaacMoses that seems ambitious if any of the people we want to line up can't immediately commit.
May 8, 2012 03:01
@IsaacMoses With Lag BaOmer around the corner, I think we need a couple of more days. Maybe say a week for (1) too?
@Alex OK, so until Monday night?
@Alex sounds about right. Also, we need somebody to take point on the panelists -- keep track of who we're reaching out to and who's doing that, so we don't drop or double-contact anyone.
@IsaacMoses Yep
And (2) + (3) taking us to ~Monday May 21?
... which is a week before Shavu'ot
@IsaacMoses sounds reasonable. Where is "out there" in "get the ads out there"?
May 8, 2012 03:03
Party on the weekend after Shavu'ot?
@MonicaCellio social networks, friendly blogs
... maybe something more ambitious involving press, if someone's willing to try that
@IsaacMoses ok, if we mean entirely online, that timeframe makes sense. (Paper pubs take longer.)
Jin
Jin
@IsaacMoses if you need any promotional graphical art done, please let me know.
@Jin Jin!
@Jin Thanks! Once we get the content nailed down, we'll definitely ask you for an ad
@IsaacMoses did anything come of the YU promotion? Are there followup opportunities there?
Jin
Jin
i'm happy to say the main site's css conversion is mostly done. I'm going to work on the Meta site now. on track for the launch tomorrow.
May 8, 2012 03:06
@Jin 10 9 8 7 6 5 ...
@MonicaCellio We could ask the same people who ran that event to maybe put up flyers at YU
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@IsaacMoses and if any of those students became regular users of our site, they could help spread the word.
Does the weekend after Shavu'ot (Saturday night, June 2 into Sunday, June 3) sound good?
Though I suppose anybody who's a regular will see the call to help promote the party anyway.
@IsaacMoses sounds good to me.
What time of day?
Who is in charge of mi.yodeya promotion at YU?
May 8, 2012 03:10
(I suppose I should have tried harder to keep this meeting within an hour)
@IsaacMoses I don't think I know him in person.
@IsaacMoses we need a time that works in at least Israel, EDT, and PDT. How much wider can we span?
@AdamMosheh Are you a current student there? Did you go to the lunch event?
@IsaacMoses Yes, I am a current student. I have morning seder until 1, and the lunch was called for noon.
@MonicaCellio What time is that? Sunday morning, PDT?
@AdamMosheh Eizeh matmid!
May 8, 2012 03:12
@IsaacMoses Halevai... I wouldn't have stopped for lunch were that the case.
@IsaacMoses probably noon PDT at the latest (= 3PM EDT = 9?PM Israel)
So I heard.
@MonicaCellio And 10 am PDT at the earliest
:4513204 There was free food, so ostensibly a lot of people would have shown up. A good friend of mine wrote an article about it for the Commentator.
@MonicaCellio That's probably 10 pm Israel Summer Time
@Vram - What's up?
He removed his comment it looks like.
Is there nobody from our mi.yodeya online community from Australia?
We can't satisfy everyone's needs at the same time unfortunately.
May 8, 2012 03:16
@AdamMosheh Oy. 10 hours of time zone are hard enough
@IsaacMoses oh, is it a 7-hour delta now?
@AdamMosheh I was wondering that too.
@MonicaCellio Most of the year, ET and Israel are 7 off. On the edges, that can be different
@IsaacMoses I work for a multinational company, and I keep on saying the same thing about trying to schedule meetings. Hashem really should have made the world flat, in my opinion!
@Alex We need tinokot shel beit rabban learning at all hours, I thought.
@IsaacMoses Google says it's currently 6:17AM in Israel (7 hours from EDT).
On the other hand, if the party runs for a couple hours and people at the time-zone "edges" aren't necessarily there for all of it, they can still participate if we structure it well.
May 8, 2012 03:18
@هه Fortunately, this time of year you've got the same time as Israel
OK, so 10 am PDT = 1 pm EDT = 8 pm IST? 11=2=9?
@MonicaCellio I think we should probably keep it to closer to an hour.
@IsaacMoses 11/2/9?
... So that people who want to be there for the whole thing can carve out the time
@Alex 11am=2pm=9pm?
@IsaacMoses in that case we could safely start an hour later -- 9PM isn't that late and it makes it a little easier on the west-coasters.
@IsaacMoses yes
@IsaacMoses Fine with me, then
May 8, 2012 03:20
@MonicaCellio Any opposed?
OK motion carries.
The party will B"H be at 9pm IST on Sunday, June 3
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Panelists should be firmed up by this time next week.
Who's going after which panelist-candidates?
@Alex Are you saying that Hashem didn't make the world flat???
I will approach R' Torczyner again, since the date is later than I'd previously thought
... and I'll give Joel another chance to say yes
@AdamMosheh He started with the intention to do so, but then decided to make it round after all. We commemorate this by starting Pesach by eating flat round matzah, and then moving on to matzah balls.
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@Alex You each gebrocts?
@Alex Lol
May 8, 2012 03:25
@IsaacMoses Sure, on acharon shel Pesach
@Alex Ah. I make it past the Flat Earth stage by Shulchan Oreich :)
@Alex So the world did not become flat until recently, when modern astronomy arose.
OK, well, I'll start with those two again, along with possibly R' Student and R' Waxman, and I'll see who I can line up within the next week.
And I'll ask Sara Esther
@Alex Thanks
@Alex, please also get in touch with @WAF about your game materials. I believe you have his email address.
... and @Alex and @Dave are on the hook to write divrei Torah. Let's say on the order of 2 minutes each, or less, OK?
May 8, 2012 03:29
@IsaacMoses thanks, and thanks @IsaacMoses for all the outreach you're doing.
... though if we can get a panel together, we might not have time for the game
... but still, let's have that in our pocket
We can discuss promotion of the party in a week or so, after we have the content nailed down and a request in to @Jin for an ad
@IsaacMoses Aye, aye, cap'n.
@Alex (excuse my brusequeness. I just want to wrap this up not much more than 30 minutes over time)
@IsaacMoses Was just kidding, don't worry.
@Alex :)
Anyone opposed to adjourning?
May 8, 2012 03:32
What about Mark Frankel, from BeyondBT.com? He works as a software designer, so he would probably be into a website such as mi.yodeya. Also, he is not a rabbi.
wow, some questions can be misleading
@AdamMosheh I've actually corresponded with him, regarding promotion of the first mi.yodeya on his blog
@IsaacMoses Really? What did he have to say?
@AdamMosheh It was really early. He was waiting for there to be more content before he'd link to it. I never followed up, as far as I can tell from my email records.
OK, Planning Meeting Adjourned. Thanks very much to everyone for your lively participation.
 
Conversation ended May 8, 2012 at 3:36.